whiskey

it'd be nice if he got credited more, but hey

So, knowing that, what's the best whisky to ask for at the bar? Do I need fancy terms or can I just say "Bourbon on the rocks, please"?

("Just throw a couple in their, yeah?")

there*

All I seem to drink anymore is Four Roses, but I did have a taste of Dickel white whiskey a week or two ago because it was on special and I couldn't resist. It smelled deadly but was actually quite smooth.

This rye story is pretty lol -- does it apply to Dickel rye too?

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I always ask for Knotter Bourbon.

cad I would love to see a list of your top five/ten "affordable range" whiskeys, I need a new bottle of bourbon anyway and am getting kinda tired of Four Roses

lol xp

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From the article I linked:

Some of those bottling and branding MGP whiskey make an effort to give the juice some sort of finishing touch to make their product distinctive. George Dickel Rye starts with MGP whiskey but charcoal-filters it before bottling. Angel’s Envy buys Indiana rye, puts it in old rum casks to soak up a little sweetness, and then charges a hefty markup. Others, such as Redemption Rye, present their MGP whiskey as-is.

The prize for the most upfront bottler has to go to Blaum Bros. of Galena, Illinois, which market Knotter—read “not our”—Bourbon with the transparent admission “We didn’t distill this bourbon. Nope, not a drop.”

cad I would love to see a list of your top five/ten "affordable range" whiskeys, I need a new bottle of bourbon anyway and am getting kinda tired of Four Roses

lol xp

― sleeve, Thursday, September 25, 2014 2:31 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's getting tougher and tougher to find dece affordable stuff, but here are some things (with the caveat that i neither have the money nor the inclination to try anything that's "craft distilled" or has an unclear origin, not that any of that stuff is affordable most of the time)

very old barton bib (if you can get it in your area, nb i haven't had it since they dropped the age statement, but man this stuff was good)
weller 107 proof
jim beam black
dickel no. 12 (still sort of affordable i think)
old grand dad bib (not really a sipper but the best mixing bourbon in the world imo)

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I always ask for Knotter Bourbon.

― nickn, Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:31 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Knotter Bourbon. neat. Thanks"

I'll tell you all about it

thanks cad!

old grand dad bib

is this the 100 proof bonded stuff or something else? I was using the bonded for a while on yr recommendation

yeah it's the bonded

the 114 is kind of overkill imo

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/11/04/business/japanese-whisky-yamazaki-named-worlds-finest-dram#.VFlY1zQgtN4

perfect timing. i'll try to score a cheap bottle while in japan later this year.

has anyone tried it?

So I scored a bottle of Pappy 12 tonight, I suppose I should feel good? Lucky?

nice work! if you didnt pay over retail it's a very nice and fairly priced bourbon.

I paid $20 over, I guess? Not too worried about it, I haven't been buying bourbon much at all this year.

hi dan, what are you doing the next couple weekends? :D

Looking at this bottle, petting it occasionally, waiting for 12/5 to crack it open.

Had a Yamazaki the other night after winning a football match 8-0. It was most fitting. Very peaty and flavoursome, without any sort of sweetened chemical flavour. Delicious.

speaking of pappy 12, anyone ever see weller 12 year? it's very very similar if not indistinguishable. used to be my jam til it disappeared. elijah craig 12 year is my affordable go-to these days, but tonight i'm sipping four roses single barrel which is delightful.

haven't seen weller 12 in a few months now unfortunately

Van winkle 12 year/lot b is I believe just single barrel Weller 12. Technically not Pappy though. Weller 12 not gone, but all the "it's as good as Pappy" talk means it didn't linger when it shows up. That said, I haven't seen it for about a year, not long after someone tipped me it was going AWOL and I didn't believe him.

i don't even think lot b is single barrel, i think it's just the best barrels of 12 year old weller blended and bottled. the general shortage of older weller and the fact that they can divert the existing supply to the more desirable van winkle label means weller 12 is going to be an endangered species for quite a long time.

picked up a bottle of four roses limited edition single barrel 2014--pretty excited since the 2012 edition was possibly my favorite bourbon ever. the price has certainly gone up.

I've had an easier time getting Pappy than any of the 4R limited editions.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing for a few seconds!

I drank a whole bottle of this year's Booker's

http://www.wsj.com/articles/fear-of-a-bourbon-shortage-puts-enthusiasts-over-a-barrel-1418004595

I also picked up Hillrock's solera aged bourbon. it's quite interesting. a bit rough around the edges but I quite like it. excited to see what they'll be doing in 6 years or so.

xp This article sponsored by the Kentucky/Indiana bourbon manufacturers agency

have we already talked white whiskey itt

i like that kings county white whiskey i must say

Fuck a white whiskey.

^^^

Drinking some scrounged Highland Park right now, it's not bad at all.

isn't every bottom-shelf "whiskey" that was "aged" for 24 hours post-fermentation and then had caramel coloring added really a white whiskey

"moonshine" aka cheap swill rushed to market as something else to avoid the aging process and start raking in dough with minimal effort.

Had some Booker's 25 last night, which was good enough that I wish I bought a bottle when I could.

I tried the Dickel white whiskey in a bar because I was curious. It was alright but I don't think I'd buy it again.

glenmorangie 1l and crested ten 70cl says its a good Xmas so far

benromach spreyside, kris krings

I just bought a bottle of Bulliet 10 Year. Not bad at all, but disappointing.

Ah well. I'll certainly drink it.

currently sipping a 12 yr bushmills distillery reserve you have to drive up to the gates of the warehouse to get. very good, peppery.

bought a bottle of springbank 15 year today. really like it a lot so far.

???
http://www.wired.com/2015/04/lost-spirits/

I think I prefer last year's Bookers to this year's

http://www.themanbookerprize.com/sites/default/files/images/books/132.Richard%20Flanagan-The%20Narrow%20Road%20To%20The%20Deep%20North%20cover.jpg

xxp OK, that Wired link is fascinating

(the link is not descriptive, it describes a new technology for reproducing the aging process of "brown spirits" in a much shorter timespan

20 years in 6 days

http://bostonapothecary.com/investigating-lost-spirits-investigations-part-i/

Bulleit 10 Year is... not all that impressive

However, buying it on clearance at Target for about fifty cents less than normal Bulleit is good!

xp thanks for that link seandalai, also fascinating