i didn't even like most of 1991 tbh lol
― dyl, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
fair enough
― ban raccoon tanuki (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
haven't heard new one but "heavy metal and reflective" was actually not bad at all
― lex pretend, Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:02 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
"heavy metal and reflective" had pretty dope lyrics but didn't work as a whole for me
also not a bad track though
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Who could possibly hate 1991 the track?
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
She makes a bunch of decent-to-great instrumentals worse all over that EP
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
having said that, "Chasing Time" is the second song of hers that I've liked, which I am finding distressing
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
IS she really that hateable as an artist?
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
She isn't if you keep away from Twitter.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
she's not likeable on twitter but the only reason that "she's so awful as a person" has taken off as a media narrative is bc she didn't play the industry game
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
tbf the only person i know who actively hates her is dan
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link
not as good as "heavy metal and reflective" (which was slow-burning fire imo), i think the singing (and whatever hook) sort of halts the momentum she builds up in the verses
― lex pretend, Friday, 26 September 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link
So her album is on iTunes now!https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/broke-with-expensive-taste/id935819478
― Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
at least she's getting on with it
― dyl, Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
this year's beyoncé
― lex pretend, Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
will happily retract if there's a spontaneous album in the next two months but i dunno.― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Saturday, July 12, 2014
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
i can't listen to it tonight (if it was actual beyoncé i'd've cancelled everything obv) but i'm totally looking forward to it, "heavy metal and reflective" has low-key become one of my singles of the year
― lex pretend, Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
If this was even last year, this thread would be blowing up right now
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
well she was PROMOTING the album a year agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpcy2RQ8-Xk
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
this is gonna be fucking horrible and i will prob be listening along with many others if it actually surfaces
― a dude eating another dude's leg in front of that dude (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
oh walk that back its there! chrome effed up loading the page the first time
― a dude eating another dude's leg in front of that dude (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
yikes! talk about missing your moment.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
shrug and whoops. it most certainly is BAD though, sorry to disappoint.
i can see where other people might dig, but i don't care for the UK-garage/house/wutever beat styles in the ways they're deployed here by her producers, and her voice/rhymes are pretty meh
add the noxious online persona to that (I mean, saying homophobic shit when a notable portion of your fanbase comes from that demographic seems real ill-advised, no???) and it all adds up to NOPE
― a dude eating another dude's leg in front of that dude (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
LENA DUN-
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
um wut
― a dude eating another dude's leg in front of that dude (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
lol what is this Peter Rosenberg cameo on "Desperado", fuck that guy
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
odd for his real-hip-hop-head traditionalist ass to show up on her joint but hey, AB needs cosigns
― ichabron crames (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link
The last third of this album is fire.
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Thursday, 6 November 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
So no mention of the fact that there's a cover of a song from Ariel Pink's Pom Pom on this?
― MarkoP, Friday, 7 November 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link
It's very sixties that both of them are releasing their respective versions of "Nude Beach a Go-Go" in the same month. This kind of thing should happen more often.
― J. Sam, Friday, 7 November 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link
this is basically a mixtape - bit of a mess, a few fire moments, shows lots of "promise"
she is SO much better at rapping than singing (well she can sing decently enough but she can't write a vocal hook to save her life)
― lex pretend, Friday, 7 November 2014 09:29 (nine years ago) link
that ariel pink song is absolutely dreadful
album is better second time round but she really does halt the momentum every time she stops rapping and starts singing
― lex pretend, Friday, 7 November 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link
mj cole produced "desperado" huh!
― lex pretend, Friday, 7 November 2014 12:06 (nine years ago) link
A lot of this production feels undercooked to me. I'll give it a few more listens but as of right now this isn't even better than Fantasea to me.
― Greer, Friday, 7 November 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Y'all are so over everything before it even happens. So this record was supposed to happen 2 1/2 years ago, so she's turned into a PR disaster in the interim, so fucking what? It sounds pretty dope to me. And granted that the production won't be to everyone's liking - nothing is - I don't even know in what galaxy the word "undercooked" would apply to it. If anything it's almost overproduced, overambitious. Like she's got something to prove. Which, I mean - of course she does!
― Chuck Eddy. He's a people. (thewufs), Saturday, 8 November 2014 08:51 (nine years ago) link
Feel like I'm listening to a different album to some of you, particularly considering the production is very much foregrounded on this album and sounds "expensive" - undercooked doesn't seem like an accurate descriptor. I think she has a tendency to fall back on catchphrases ("I be on that..." seems like her default) but the knack for clever assonance that she perfected on 212 is present on many of the new tracks.
I would also disagree that her sung hooks are boring / bad, though I'm not really on board with the Ariel Pink track. Highlights for me initially are "Chasing Time" (i want that fluorescent housey synth pattern in the verses to percolate in my head forever), "Soda", "Ice Princess" and the second half of "Gimme A Chance".
Overall it's a way more impressive collection than I'd've expected from someone who was releasing stuff like "ATM Jam" a year ago.
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Saturday, 8 November 2014 09:48 (nine years ago) link
i really like this album! the ariel pink track is sort of ridiculous but i think it's deliberately so.
and lone >>>>
― maura, Saturday, 8 November 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I like "Ice Princess" and she can rap in Spanish. I'm still coming to terms with the singing.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 November 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
haven't listened to the album yet but i like her p4k interview http://pitchfork.com/features/update/9540-azealia-banks/
― dyl, Monday, 10 November 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link
this sounds so good
― schlump, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 08:46 (nine years ago) link
Good album. Not all great, but strong overall. I had "Desperado" on repeat yesterday. It's weird that Interscope was convinced they were going to make her a billion-dollar star. Why would "212" make someone think that? Not that she could never have a hit, but she's not a good bet for world dominance.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
"Soda," "Ice Princess," "Wallace," "Gimme a Chance," two or three others -- I like this a lot.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link
i mean anything that gets millions of hits on youtube without a major label machine behind it is gonna make the major label machine think about what would happen if they WERE behind it, so i can't fault anyone for optimism. but it definitely seems like they should've gone about the whole thing differently instead of just trying to get Pharrell to wave his wand and make her mainstream.
a few months ago I heard "212" in The Heat, and i was like "this is the perfect final resting place for this stupid overrated song, a Sandra Bullock movie"
xp
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link
This is totally not the album I would have expected from her and it's interesting in a load of different ways (I love that the first couple of tracks seem to be playing in some afrobeat-tropicalia hinterland) but as an MC she is weirdly head-down on a lot of this.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 16 November 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
awful
― Raccoon Tanuki, Sunday, 16 November 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
Ummm are the first couple tracks a portent of the rest? Cause this is sounding fucking great.
― Simon H., Sunday, 16 November 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
Not really, but it goes to a lot of different places.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 16 November 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
i'm more and more impressed with this album as it settles in - her loose approach to structure and ad libby raps let it down at times but they're also what makes it stand out, there are so many unexpected switch-ups or extra details that come into tracks midway through. and it really, really sounds great. she does rap in exactly the same way on all tracks but a lot of the things that sounded half-baked at first are now actually the things that help me get lost in it. "desperado" and "jfk" going on longer than you think they will, azealia giving way to the instrumental, before she wraps them up. "heavy metal and reflective" being shorter than you think it should be. the ranting on "yung rapunxel" works so well in album context.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
same here! And I can even deal with the Ariel Pink song if I listen to it as if it were a Sunny Delight commercial.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link
i listen to the ariel pink song as if it was an actual pop-up internet commercial before the bonus tracks (which - in a good, victory lap way - is what the two misses feel like) (ie i don't listen to it)
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Sunday, November 16, 2014 6:37 AM Bookmark
it still gets played at every other queer party tho
― I Love Makonnen: New Answers (The Reverend), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link