New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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xp

i control this thing using launchbar, which in many was an amazing app, but as a UI paradigm it's one up from zsh or something.

fix the finder.

caek, Monday, 22 September 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link

i don't do anything through spotlight

Odd. I exclusively use Spotlight and a tiled window manager.

`cd` and `ls` are still better than Finder. But, admittedly, they are better than most alternatives.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 22 September 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link

I exclusively use Spotlight and a tiled window manager

Me too, although the share of my stuff which is manageable as local files is smaller and smaller. I wish it wasn't the case. Most of the organizational stuff I do in Lightroom or iTunes should be possible in the Finder, imo.

ugh (lukas), Monday, 22 September 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

Finally started using Spotlight more, but I'm just not sure what was so broken about directory structures. Windows 8 seems hot to get rid of them too. I guess folders full of recent documents and a powerful search tool are probably better than having to remember where I put something, but that was never such a huge cognitive load for me in the first place.

schwantz, Monday, 22 September 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link

Between the fucked-up new expose, the fucked-up launchpad, the fucked-up dashboard, the double-fucked-up Spaces and the super-fucked-up Finder I need Alfred to get anything done on my Mac at all.

Whereas with the real Finder, some drawers and a torn-off Switcher menu I could still get everything done A+ style. That set still feels so right it's weird to think that OS X has almost been around as long as classic Mac OS now.

stet, Monday, 22 September 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link

And (sorry this is turning into the IHA thread) yeah - why did Apple essentially create a hidden directory structure for a bunch of their apps (mail, iPhoto)?

All of this points to Apple completely dumping OSX once they figure out how to make iOS good enough for PC usage.

schwantz, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

I loved dumping everything in the Apple menu and having a couple of spring-loaded folders along the bottom of the screen (in OS9).

schwantz, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

yeah, fuckin spaces

i set that shit up eons ago and never got it to behave properly so i just acclimated to the way it was fucked up and forgot about it

j., Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link

And (sorry this is turning into the IHA thread) yeah - why did Apple essentially create a hidden directory structure for a bunch of their apps (mail, iPhoto)?

It pre-dates Apple. NeXT used a similar graph system for storage too.

(Rob Pike is the champion of this: http://rob.pike.usesthis.com for an introduction!)

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link

On the NeXT stuff, the engineering culture, Copland, the Classic>OS X and OS X>iOS transitions I found the three Nitin Ganatra episodes of the Debug podcast to be pretty good listening.

(You need to suffer a lot of Rene Ritche "hnuh"s mind)

stet, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:11 (nine years ago) link

I don't have any of these problems. But I just browse the Internet.

Jeff, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link

tbf the hierarchical file system is a terrible UX requiring tons of cognitive load

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link

hey you know what i would love to see is a thread about firstclass bbses and cracks&numbers and aohell and n0p and etc. i feel like posters here would have interesting things to say about that stuff.

sktsh, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

i don't know how much i can remember about my local firstclass bss : /

j., Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

the finder is broken?

the late great, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link

someone recently posted this screenshot

http://jeff.rainbow-100.com/other/dosgames/21-1.png

and it made me super nostalgic

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

I used to understand the way window management (and the Finder) worked in OS X. Now I'm just a cranky old man flailing around, surrounded by mess.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

I have expose turned off on my parent's iMac and it is a huge pain managing windows within an app

, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link

Why turn it off instead of just giving it an obscure hotkey

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link

Parents hit all the keys

, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link

make it like cmd+f10

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

xp in my experience, parents are terrified of hitting any keys

ILX preorders SPYRO for Playstation (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link

lol

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link

I love spaces, always use command-tab and command-~ instead of expose, use the finder maybe 30% of the time and iterm the other 70%, and have lots of bash alias for opening applications and making 'rm' put stuff in the Trash and dealing with finder windows, and I never use Spotlight

I don't know if it's stockholm syndrome or just time but I'm totally fine with OSX and have no fond memories of system 7/8/9. I do remember always turning off the "open every folder in new window" as soon as sat down though so maybe I'm just a heathen.

joygoat, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link

Parents hit all the keys

― 龜, Monday, September 22, 2014 8:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link

charging news http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/22/iphone-6-and-6-plus-charging

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link

loving all these pro opinons even if i dont understand what all ur talking abt btw

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 02:12 (nine years ago) link

Does anyone use Finder window tabs at all? Several keynote minutes were burned on that one.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link

pfft

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link

im gonna use some right now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link

i use finder tabs like crazy

Spottie, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link

Finder Tabs abt as useful as Finder Tags

stet, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 11:06 (nine years ago) link

What's the connection between landmark forum and apple?

von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 11:43 (nine years ago) link

national socialism

caek, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link

i think i use the terminal when i'm in "terminal mode" i.e. programming and then i pretend i'm on a unix box. when i'm in "enduser mode" i never touch the thing.

spaces finally works about as good as old virtual screens for unix did 20 years ago. i have different apps pinned to different spaces, and just three-finger swipe left and right between the screens constantly, only cmd-tabing or going to expose when i get really lost. never found a tiling wm for mac that suited me, plus in 'end-user' mode again i'm fond of scattering little notepad documents with fragmentary notes and browsers with snippets of info all over my screen haphazardly.

the only terrible things apple did to me were a) swap the scroll direction and b) add that stupid useless right-hand notifications thing. outside of that, finder is about as usable as ever.

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link

(I may make some popcorn and then sit down to read the comments on that I6/I6+ charging link because they seem to be Opinionated)

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 13:56 (nine years ago) link

fwiw I'm also finding the current version of iOS Chrome is really nice for browsing on the 6.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link

What's the connection between landmark forum and apple?

I don't think that Apple forces their employees into that stuff or anything, but I know that a lot of people over there have gotten into it, and the corporate culture reflects a lot of that est-y attitude. If you visit LF, they mention Apple at the top of every list of corporate clients...

schwantz, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

wld def like to know more abt that shit

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

some dark dark shit

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

lol tho http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/23/iphone-6-plus-bending-pockets

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

To prevent bending, iPhone 6 Plus owners may want to remove their iPhones from their pockets before sitting or bending. If a pocket is unavoidable, then customers may want to place their device in a roomier pocket that allows the device to slide out the way. A rigid case may also provide protection from flexing or bending, as well damage from dropping the device.

, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

u made ur phonw too big, too thin, u rebelled against nature

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/qLfn4DM.jpg

It's a pretty big coincidence that the iPhone 6 Plus was released in the Year of Normcore... or is it???

, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

put that shit in a cargo pocket and ur def gonna need a iwatch, the scam is coming into focus

lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

iPants

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

jesus i would hella ruin one of these then, there is often a great amount of torsion applied to my iphone 5 in my front pocket when I sit

von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

stealth field testing for the tolerances necessary to build the FlexiPhone

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

I'm going to go ahead and say it now, possibly breaking the streak, but this is the longest I've heard a nation go on about fitting six inches into their pocket without snickering.

pplains, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

the giantphone is for people who carry a bag or have cargo pockets or something. if there's torsion on an iphone 5, then this fucker would not even fit in that pocket

⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link


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