New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

The real criminal charge against 16gb is that recording hd video fills that shit up real fast, plus pics etc

― 龜, Monday, September 22, 2014 4:46 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah its a device that demands to be managed just to function, apple made a shit load of money off this but for a company that hangs its hat on usability it def hurts the brand

Maybe the 16 gb buyers will be in the ""long tail"" xp

yeah prob

gene munster is an important person in the world of apple

I do feel kind of schemed by them in re the pricing, as someone who sprung for the 64gb. 16 seems way too small nowadays, with the OS alone eating up so much. Smart I guess from a makin' money perspective but doesn't leave me feeling good. I guess I'm a sucker though, by the time they released the pricing I was already so frothed up for a new one (especially since my 4s was falling apart) that I just jumped.

The honorable thing would be to make the entry-level 32gb. I think the similarly priced HTC One is 32.

anyone besides me read that tim cook interview

Maybe APPLEWATCH R&D blew their budget and Tim Cook needed to find a way to save them

https://twitter.com/hotdogsladies/status/513526107857879040

https://twitter.com/hotdogsladies/status/513530962701869056

https://twitter.com/hotdogsladies/status/513535650650271744

Wow, that guy is seething with resentment of people with the new iphone.

my iphone 5 just stopped charging altogether after being very finicky for a while, i ordered a kit to replace the charing port http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00COTUJBA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 and after a lil research concluded that i prob broke it via using cheapo third party charging cables, learn from my mistakes children

not upgrable for a few months ~~~~

http://www.theonion.com/articles/apple-releases-brief-fleeting-moment-of-excitement,36888/

we should split this thread into two, so people can talk about boring shit in one of them and then i & whoever else wants to can talk about the more important shit in the other one

because i like apple, but this thread disappoints

THERE'S INTERESTING STUFF GOING DOWN AT APPLE AND THIS ISN'T IT

Ay it's almost 2015

you could try saying something interesting markers

yeah def just so it can be ignored

half of the people in here half probably like a passing interest in apple at best

EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-19/tim-cook-q-and-a-the-full-interview-on-iphone-6-and-the-apple-watch

THIS TOO

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-17/tim-cook-interview-the-iphone-6-the-apple-watch-and-being-nice

cn u summarize

i was gonna quote excerpts from the cook interview on twitter, but decided against it. there were at least two or three things he said in there that were interesting though

quote them here

markers maybe you should start the new thread

fyi, my iphone 5 got increasingly finicky with recognizing the charger being plugged in and (it doesn't sound like a good idea but folks online were swearing by it) scraping out the back of the port with a paperclip solved the problem. tons of lint and whatnot crammed up in there.

xposts to lagoon

Do you worry about adding distraction or adding unnecessary technology to people’s lives?

I think it takes away instead of adds, because what you’ll find out is, like … Today, to know what time it is—unless in this room and I look up there [pointing to wall clock]—I’m doing this [pulling out phone]. And once I do this to see what time it is, I’m saying, “Well, I might as well check my mail, and then I might as well check my Twitter (TWTR) stream to see if I’m getting bashed about something or other.”

Where on this [holding up Apple Watch], you’re not doing that. You’re not doing, “Oh, I’ve got a call,” and I see who it is. “I can do that one later.” You know? It’s also a bit more socially acceptable, I think, to do this [looking at watch] than it is to do this [pulling out phone]. You know? So I’m not saying anything bad about smartphones. They’re unbelievable. But I think this is a nice complement. If anything, if you wear it for a week, you would find yourself less distracted than more.

This is actually a subtle thing about the watch that I think could really turn out to be meaningful -- the google people kept saying that glass was going to make mobile tech feel "less in the way", but somehow wearing it on your fucking face was not a convincing way of doing that. Having it on your wrist seems like a happy medium between glass and having to reach into your pocket for something. Just a thing that lets you know what's up so you don't keep awkwardly checking.

Also, I hope it shoots a single, tiny tranquilizing dart when you double-tap the crown.

i suspect he has it backwards and the phone being in the pocket is a feature not a bug

fyi, my iphone 5 got increasingly finicky with recognizing the charger being plugged in and (it doesn't sound like a good idea but folks online were swearing by it) scraping out the back of the port with a paperclip solved the problem. tons of lint and whatnot crammed up in there.

― circa1916, Monday, September 22, 2014 5:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya i did extensive cleaning, which i was hoping was the problem but it wasnt

fyi, my iphone 5 got increasingly finicky with recognizing the charger being plugged in and (it doesn't sound like a good idea but folks online were swearing by it) scraping out the back of the port with a paperclip solved the problem. tons of lint and whatnot crammed up in there.

i tried it with paperclip and failed, so then someone did it for me with like a bright light, magnification and really fine tweezers and it worked

I just took mine to the Apple store and they cleaned it out, which fixed the problem.

It took like three minutes.

i'll bite, but i also have other shit to do tonight and i'm sure a lot of posts will pile up between this and whenever i'd want to come back to reply, so no promises i'm going to follow up on any of this shit ever. this post could be improved a lot, but time is money and i don't have a lot of either right now:

i'm not just trolling. i've spent a huge portion of the last four-ish years of my life following this company, probably more than most of the people in this thread, and my interest in them isn't superifical. a lot of people here clearly have a different sort of interest in the company than i do, because i don't like this thread that much, (or, frankly, a lot of ilx in general these days, but that's beyond the scope of this post). what interests me about apple has a lot to do with jobs and little to do with the quotidian shit like which device should i buy. for me, the company is about ideas and, yes, the products too. but the culture jobs created is the thing. the values embedded in the design of the new campus is the thing. the thoughts that go into the design of the products is the thing. “excellence,” which steve and tim talk about, is the thing

beyond that, right now, there's a lot going on that one could talk about that isn't specs crap: tim cook is changing the company. look at those two businessweek pieces. (hilarious cover, right? captivating to hear people talk about that instead of what's in the fucking articles.) cook has a clear, public focus on social justice and the environment. that's interesting, because for jobs it was explicitly about the products. (again, see the two bw links.) there's the “openness” issue cook refers to and others have noted, especially during and post-wwdc. cotton was kicked out as part of that, perhaps. (to make things “friendlier” or w/e.) forstall's firing, which is also brought up in the longer interview, was clearly part of a change in the company's internal ways of doing things. (i'm just gonna stop saying read the pieces now, but read the pieces. maybe check out gruber's “only apple” thing too.)

i just got done the other day re-reading the sj bio, and that's the sort of stuff that's more interesting to me personally. i use an ipad. i'm typing on an imac. but there's much, much bigger stuff at stake here. i figure there are probably very few here who are as interested in that side of the coin though, and a lot of ppl, as i've kinda suggested, are probably just casual fans who'd rather talk about whether the iphone 6 plus will fit in their pocket or not, but i can't stop them from posting unfortunately

ilx basically is more or less not for me anymore, so i should probably reduce my involvement instead of just getting annoyed or w/e all the time, but i don't really have many other places to hang at the moment, so here i am

time to go engage in ocd rituals & head out to take pictures with my ipad mini

Do you worry about adding distraction or adding unnecessary technology to people’s lives?

I think it takes away instead of adds, because what you’ll find out is, like … Today, to know what time it is—unless in this room and I look up there [pointing to wall clock]—I’m doing this [pulling out phone]. And once I do this to see what time it is, I’m saying, “Well, I might as well check my mail, and then I might as well check my Twitter (TWTR) stream to see if I’m getting bashed about something or other.”

Where on this [holding up Apple Watch], you’re not doing that. You’re not doing, “Oh, I’ve got a call,” and I see who it is. “I can do that one later.” You know? It’s also a bit more socially acceptable, I think, to do this [looking at watch] than it is to do this [pulling out phone]. You know? So I’m not saying anything bad about smartphones. They’re unbelievable. But I think this is a nice complement. If anything, if you wear it for a week, you would find yourself less distracted than more.

This is actually a subtle thing about the watch that I think could really turn out to be meaningful -- the google people kept saying that glass was going to make mobile tech feel "less in the way", but somehow wearing it on your fucking face was not a convincing way of doing that. Having it on your wrist seems like a happy medium between glass and having to reach into your pocket for something. Just a thing that lets you know what's up so you don't keep awkwardly checking.

I missed where the italics stopped and was impressed with Cook's Google Glass trash talk.

markers I'd recommend posting more about what you're interested in and/or starting your own thread about the specific topics you're into. But you also have to realize you're on a general discussion board where people have varying interests and want to talk about different things and have different levels of tech/business interest/knowledge. If you can't deal with that then you're going to keep having these problems.

People generally aren't trying to piss you off. This thread is specifically about consumer-level Apple topics, as indicated by the thread title.

Markers, serious question: If any, what are some of the flaws of the new Apple products (iPhone 6/6+, watch, etc.) that you think Jobs would've objected or at the very least, sent back into development?

My example would be the app screen on the watch. It looks way too disorderly than what Jobs would've approved.

I missed where the italics stopped and was impressed with Cook's Google Glass trash talk.

― Alba, Monday, September 22, 2014 5:31 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, the image of Tim Cook suddenly busting out with "DO YOU WANT THAT THING ON YOUR FUCKING FACE?!"

I was thinking this morning that it's interesting when people are like "Jobs wouldn't have let this fly" bc it's based on this static image of someone whose ideas and perspectives can't change anymore. Would Apple be as successful if run by this conceptual unmoving Jobs? Or would he have become more flexible? But I don't really know much about him so I can't really expand on this.

I made a thread for serious apple watcheres Serious Apple

I'm headed to an Apple store probably tomorrow or Wednesday to check out the iPhones 6 I am excited

I guess I have an at least casual interest in philosophies of design, and Apple is always interesting in this regard, almost like its own "school" to an extent. But there's also this weird meta effect to all of it that kind of fucks with my mind, where Apple is constantly selling you on the idea that they have this philosophy of design that they adhere to, and I start to doubt whether I am really evaluating the product or just buying into the branding schtick. Still though, I am obsessed with the side edges of the screen right now -- the way the screen almost looks like a sheet of very bright paper sitting on top of the phone, and the way the phone body curves just slightly away from the edges, with the black material under the glass looking almost solid and transparent at the same time.

I dunno if it's a psychological effect or what but once I knew Apple was gonna make a bigger screen iPhone my iPhone 5's screen all of a sudden started seeming too small all the time

My 4s felt too small for me way before I knew that fwiw. Once I really tried to browse or read books on it it felt like a joke.

I've never owned a 4 or 4s

The Retina I think helps a lot because it makes you think "well the text is all there and I can't see the pixels it must be that I have bad eyes"

Markers you seem to be more into Apple qua Apple. But that's a product too, and one that is as groomed and carefully positioned as their hardware.

All that stuff about their emphasis on culture, on Apple-U, on Tim's repositioning et al, the very great majority of that has come from PR-sanctioned leaks. Even the stuff that feels "real", like the leaks of Store employee handbooks, is sanctioned: they know there's a chance it will leak and write accordingly. (The real stuff goes in the burn-after-reading books, and they have never once leaked).

I guess I'm just not interested in buying into that product much. The supposed impact it is going to have on the world is of its own creation and frankly is minor compared to the impact of its products.

And now those sweeping impacts are understood, a lot of the real differences now are coming down to the specs.

For instance, wth does the 6+ only have 1gb memory? Will I ever be able to trust Safari not to reload my pages after I bounce quickly into another app? And why did they shave 2mm when that could have really meant some better battery life? And why is it bigger than the Note 3 despite having a smaller screen?

Yeah, these are minor questions, but given the amount of time worldwide spent touching these little glass squares, I think the answers to them arguably impact people way, way more than Tim's fuzzy feelings.

(I also think you underestimate people here. There are people here who were dropping into MacsBug when you didn't even have a reset switch, and who got their WWDCs sessions by mail on VHS. Try starting conversations on the stuff you care about instead of complaining they don't spontaneously arise and see if they don't reply. Hell, open an "Apple culture no products allowed in the room" thread if you want)

O I see dayo has done it