Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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it's a lot of territorial pissing from basement dwellers

bnw, Thursday, 18 September 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

that's what it looks like at a glance but i didn't want to dismiss it out of hand

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

ya might as well, it's the same tripe repeated over and over again

Nhex, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link

Actually today was interesting, which means I have been spending too much time paying attention to this. But GamerGate appears to have been.. chased off.. 4chan?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

oughtn't click to 4chan at work

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/09/death-to-the-gamer/

this been posted yet?

Treeship, Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

yes and then we killed the gamer

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

death to jennifer garner

polyphonic, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

Does @Nero get paid for this? Is this someone's actual job?

jmm, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

jacobin piece undercooked

Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

it's just lag00n's in thread strong take (gaming = consumerism) + unpacked into verbosity

Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link

took a quick look at the tag on twitter, came away with this gem

https://twitter.com/Bendilin/status/512708381186854912

goole, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

it's just lag00n's in thread strong take (gaming = consumerism) + unpacked into verbosity

― Mordy, Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:19 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk i thought it was pretty good

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

idk i expect more from jacobin i guess

Mordy, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link

but tbf consumerism is pretty much ubiquitous on our culture so maybe its unfair to pick on teh poor gamers, in the preceding piece he does spell out how everyone is a geek now https://www.jacobinmag.com/2013/08/on-geek-culture

lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link

this is good:

There are a few small issues with this analysis. One is the notion that the slights imagined by gamers are just that: imaginary. But they aren’t, and gamers must be taken at face value when they claim to feel threatened. Gamer culture is under threat, though the notion that it’s dead or dying is both overstated and premature.

When your identity has been manufactured by corporations urging you to consume certain things in prescribed ways, then any change, no matter how small, is an existential threat. When women challenge decades of almost exclusively male fantasies of sex and power, this alters the content the gamer consumes. And when that content is altered, gamer identity itself under threat. The vitriol isn’t contrived or artificially manufactured. It has a source.

goole, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

Neoliberalism has made geeks of us all: jocks, nerds, and dweebs alike.
*groooooan*

Nhex, Friday, 19 September 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link

how to write for Jacobin:

1. Identify a thing that's definitely bad.
2. Blame neoliberalism for that thing.
3. Something something Adorno?

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 19 September 2014 05:36 (nine years ago) link

i mean

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 19 September 2014 06:11 (nine years ago) link

um neoliberalism is bad hello

lag∞n, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link

it's not that there aren't interesting things to still say about neoliberalism, but that well is pretty dry in 2014.

Mordy, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link

naw i agree that those on the left tend to just call everything and everyone they dont like neoliberalism

lag∞n, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

but i mean its just one sentence

lag∞n, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

i think someone very bright could write a very interesting piece about the history of gaming as it intertwines w/ (as well as subverts) neoliberalism + consumerism. i envision something like Attali's Noise but for games instead of music.

Mordy, Friday, 19 September 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link

jesus

https://twitter.com/Nero/status/513082652518535168

goole, Friday, 19 September 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate

Mordy, Saturday, 20 September 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

whoa

example (crüt), Saturday, 20 September 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

The correct title of this article is #GamerGate. The substitution or omission of the # is because of technical restrictions.

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 September 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

53 footnotes, damn

Nhex, Saturday, 20 September 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

omg lolololol

https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/514080679030566912

holy shit

goole, Monday, 22 September 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

"Cultural Marxism" ?!?!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 22 September 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

you are in for a world of fun if you dig around for that phrase

goole, Monday, 22 September 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link

hahahahahahahahaha

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Monday, 22 September 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

facepalm of sadness

Nhex, Monday, 22 September 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4s7cV4Us4
and it has come to this

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 04:38 (nine years ago) link

is he a double agent

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link

I find it kind of humorous (tinged with sadness) that someone paid AEI to make that.

alanbatman (abanana), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 11:35 (nine years ago) link

In Japan, the number of female gamers is rapidly increasing. And as a result there are more and more games being made specifically for the female gamer market. Some have a very exaggerated 'cuteness' than seems to be deliberately 'non-sexual'. Others have suggestive sexual content but with the gender roles reversed. There are also many games featuring homosexual male characters but they are clearly aimed at female gamers.

Tokyo Crow, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

That almost reads like a direct reflection of how manga markets have been for over a decade.

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

That almost reads like a direct reflection of how manga markets have been for over a decade.

Yeah, that's true. There's a very big overlap between the manga/anime audience and the video game audience.

Multimedia franchises - play the game, read the comic, watch the anime, buy the soundtrack, buy the figures/merchandise, play the pachinko machine, read the light novel, watch the movie etc.

Tokyo Crow, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

Oh good, that's happening

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

Dammit. https://twitter.com/hashtag/comicgate

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/djperry1973/status/514813517715623936

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

haha #NotAllRadioDisneySingles

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

then they came for milo manara and i was silent
because i had been bound tightly in leather straps and a ball gag

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/x8t39eu.png

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

hahahahaha

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

The general response appears to be that it's a shame that the ladies are so ill-informed about what GamerGate is about.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 25 September 2014 09:48 (nine years ago) link


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