I really like the Ken Burns National Parks book (and as a rule I hate this guy and won't watch his crap)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
@pareene Teddy Roosevelt was a jerk who loved war and hunting because he was insecure about his effete city kid background and girly voice, the end
Vee-dal beat Alex to it: "Theodore Roosevelt: American Sissy"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
semi-joeks, guys
how is Burns handling TR's Churchillian racialist views? (no wonder Nixon liked him so much)
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
well, he spent time on the Brownsville incident, which surprised me.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
what can you expect from a guy who was NYPD commish
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
@DennisThePerrin If George Will can praise FDR's courage, then there's hope for those who will say anything to be on camera. #TheRoosevelts
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 September 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
he also praised FDR's wonderful smile
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 September 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
Supercilious clan of cousin-fuckers reigned for decades, the end. I really enjoyed a lot of this tbh, Ken Burns is so fucking tedious but I always end up binge watching it all.
― xelab, Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
I'm still on part 2, but love how the narrator goes out of his way to make TR sound like a dandy. Like before going to the Dakotas, had a fringed leather jacket made for him which he designed, and before going to Cuba, had Brooks Brothers make him a bunch of uniforms.
― naus, Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
It didn't really go into that it was the 2nd yalta conference that ultimately killed him.
― xelab, Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
young paleocon gives a talk about FDR's opposition: they weren't all fascist fellow-travelers
http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2015/04/the-socialist-party-and-the-old-right/
i can't verify the essential truth of this but it's interesting reading, especially the socialist vs communist split on the "war state"
― goole, Monday, 10 August 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
Alfred, did you ever read a good FDR bio? Recommend a good FDR bio to me please
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link
Traitor to his Class iirc
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 March 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link
I read the third volume of Kenneth Davis' multi-volume set, as it happens.
I've been recommending Fear Itself: The New Deal and the Origins of Our Time for years: Ira Katznelson's definitive account of how the Roosevelt administration's courtship of racist Southerners was necessary to pass the most progressive legislation in American history.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link
which is v good, my only criticism is that it ends very abruptly - "and then he died, THE END"!, with zero discussion of say, how WWII ended or his legacy.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 2 March 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link
xps
Traitor to His Class is a solid one-volume bio.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
thank u both
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:37 (four years ago) link