For some reason, the little "flash in the sky" special effect strikes me as the most contemptuous moment on this.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 07:45 (nine years ago) link
the accent too
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link
So I suppose it's up to me to try to defend it, nobody else seems keen. What I like most about it is those synth sounds - it's like they've taken that witch house drone and pulled it into a futuristic j-pop shape, but you can still hear it there, and it's sort of odd and thrilling. When the chorus kicks in and it all rushes in at once it's incredible (on decent headphones at least, it disappears completely when I listen to it through computer speakers) - it just sounds new and intense in all the right ways. The vocal reminds me of Oh My Gosh by Basement Jaxx, but with this (again J-pop) android vocal processing - it sounds human and alien, innocent and sexual all at the same time. I can see how it could be annoying, but it's like that for a reason. The idea that it's condescending seems misleading as, while it may well be non-pop people playing at being pop (1) nobody owns pop and (2) everyone I know who's connecting with it is doing so in a genuine "I love this" way rather than the ironic "pitchfork overlords" fashion patronisingly assumed above.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
It sounds super retro to me, which isn't really a problem, but the future / nowness element is passing me by completely. It's like a pastiche of early 90s J-pop.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
One of the reasons this song is so great is because of all the haters, none of whom are remotely close to nailing it.
― everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
This is what we call sub-Raccoon Tanuki reasoning.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
liking a song metatextually or something, presumably if we'd kept our mouths shut there'd be nothing to enjoy
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
Well you've certainly not kept your mouth shut Lex. You've made the same "leave Britney alone" argument about how contemptuously anti-pop it is about five times over two threads on ILM and elsewhere on the internet too.
― everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
*farts*
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
man if everyone would just be quiet all the shitty music would go away
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
Oh God, Matresslessness - a person who's sick of people oversharing this song at parties etc. I realize the parties and the party guests that Matresslessness is talking about are entirely in his imagination but putting that aside that would otherwise be the definition of successful pop music.
― everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
i intend to make people feel bad for enjoying this song
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
― everything, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:04 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you are a fucking dumbass
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
think it's already been established elsewhere but just in case
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
Camaraderie At Arms Length wrote a great post there that is being conspicuously ignored
― imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
might consider a defense from someone who isn't a pop tourist
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
What I like most about it is those synth sounds - it's like they've taken that witch house drone and pulled it into a futuristic j-pop shape, but you can still hear it there, and it's sort of odd and thrilling
if this song is impressing you with it's synth sounds your bar must be extremely low
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
its*
relieved this thread is no less serious than the other one
― ogmor, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
yeah, everyone seems to be annoyed at it for being postmodern / art-studenty ... but I'm not hearing any of that
uh hello she's holding an "energy drink" called QT
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
http://noize.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/acdc_beer.jpg
― everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
http://metal-and-wine.com/media/image/thumbnail/motoerhead_bastard_3er_720x600.jpg
― everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
it's commentary you see
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link
yes good point except her energy drink doesn't actually exist
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
"advertising jingles for products that don't exist" is the new "soundtracks for a film that doesn't exist". Except that there's nothing new about it.
― everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
http://images.lightstalkers.org/images/1222119/Pete_Townshend_large.jpg
― everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
the cute sell out
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
right, so we agree it sucks
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
Glad that's settled.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
For the record, people reppin for BIPP should've seen this coming tho.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:08 AM Bookmark
same
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link
this is true and unfortunate :\
― dyl, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
brad, do u see me coming n shitting up the 1975 thread? play fair pls
― imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
besides steely dan is there fake pop that's even good
― goole, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
i always think, why don't you just try to do this actually, or are you not good enough at it?
― goole, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXGXDmtW4Zg
― imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
lol i meant the remix
anyway that wasn't a 100% srs answer. wtf is 'fake' anyway
― imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
My favorite fake pop act is Du Jour.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
i always think, why don't you just try to do this actually, or are you not good enough at it?― goole, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:54 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― goole, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:54 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Who do you think this about other than QT?
― everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
hey hey hey, bim's on the way
― rushomancy, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
no one is "shitting up" this thread; if you want a dedicated thread for only positive remarks about an artist you can make one yourself
― katherine, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link
cool ok well you'll be seeing a lot more of me on the threads of bands you all like that I think are trash, k
― imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
it is kind of wonderful how annoyed the pop authenticity brigade have gotten tho, it's like this music has rly hit a nerve. good
― imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
you are deeply confused.
K-pop (2014)
no posts from imago hmmm maybe somehow i can begin fathom the depths of his ignorance
― mattresslessness, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link
idek if 'authenticity' is really my issue but then again i have difficulty putting my finger on it
in either case even if all the pretentious cabbage were trimmed away the song would still be pretty substandard compared to others of its ilk
― dyl, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:56 (nine years ago) link
i said some very very nice things abt the k-pop in the 2013 year-end ballot tbf, just never know where to start. might check some out!
― imago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link
was it 'pink tape'? that was awesome
authenticity is not my issue; my issue is contempt.
― katherine, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link
lol these threads are still funny. There's a soft rule that if an artist gets their own thread outside of a rolling thread, people will be having a dumb, protracted argument inside, whereas the rolling threads are for grunts and humphs and other semi-intelligible murmurs. people won't really miss your contingency of the creative class.
song's ok pitched down, but the song's beside the point of the thread at this point. Who knew it was ironic or conceptual until ppl started 6/10ing it and making other important, not at all ephemeral contributions to music criticism?
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 23:28 (nine years ago) link
― imago, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
when did you become such a baby?
also, this song is so transparently someone's idea of a postmodern art project i can't even really get bothered by it.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
no
― The Reverend, Sunday, 21 September 2014 06:52 (nine years ago) link
Yeah?
― EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 September 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link
best song of all time
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 May 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link
there's something I want to say
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 May 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link
yeah?
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 May 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link
i had no idea this was so contentious on ILM.
i don't think it is a parody of pop music or whatever lex was saying. i think it is a song that is interested in the way songs can be commodities, and how commodities -- ideally -- have a kind of effervescent unreality. but it's not really trying to take the next step and draw out a sinister dimension to this sort of alienation like vaporwave or something.
― Treeship, Thursday, 11 May 2017 03:07 (six years ago) link
bipp is still fantastic this not so much
― ufo, Thursday, 11 May 2017 03:18 (six years ago) link
Thread = weird. Song = awesome.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 11 May 2017 03:36 (six years ago) link
agreed w/ ufo, + i think "bipp" is what accomplishes what treeship refers to rather than "qt"
― dyl, Thursday, 11 May 2017 06:40 (six years ago) link