Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

scrapped album after reaction to "Go" - starting over

http://pitchfork.com/news/56680-grimes-scraps-new-album-sessions-after-negative-reaction-to-go-starts-again/

Hmmmmm. The video she did for Go was pretty embarrassing. Go as a song was not up to her usual standards, production wise. She's messing up having such a big gap between albums and touring so much.

she scraps an album's worth of stuff every couple of months more or less and the NYT article the quote comes from doesn't even mention anything about scrapping material after or because of the reaction to "go"

and less of the p****fork linking, heres the actual article http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/magazine/why-everyone-should-be-waiting-for-grimess-next-album.html?_r=0

I heard she is a pretty despicable person actually, which shatters the illusions I had of her.

you heard, huh?

A real Snidely Whiplash type, eh?

I heard she does car commercials in Japan.

I heard that she has sold her turntables and bought guitars.

I heard rumours... she was *into* field hockey players...?

yeah i heard she scrapped the album long before anyone knew what "go" even was

makes the PF news thing pretty funny. "one of our writers did a big feature elsewhere, so we're going to point you toward it while also decontextualizing and sensationalizing its narrative."

I wasn't a fan of "Go" on any level, but it seems a bit... unseemly to be all "the fans aren't onboard with where I was going, so fuck that."

well, it seems like she didn't say anything like that and that's just the narrative other people are constructing

yeah it seems like she is just trying to figure out what she wants to do & is staying p chill in the meantime

She's messing up having such a big gap between albums and touring so much.

nah, clearly no one's forgetting about her, better to take the time to make a great record. unless she's overthinking everything and ends up making a terrible record because of it, of course.

I hope it doesn't turn into another nmh/mbv situation. I do think Visions was that good; it seems like it would be very hard to follow up

"nah, clearly no one's forgetting about her, better to take the time to make a great record. unless she's overthinking everything and ends up making a terrible record because of it, of course."

When you look at her career though before and up to visions, and I was a fan back then, her output was frequent, 4 releases in 2 years. It suited her development and kind of highly momentary transient style. Visions and the lack of anything after it has shocked her a bit into anxiety that wasn't there before. I think she's absolutely a person who requires total personal freedom and it's clear thats been affected by the success. She's obviously a confident person but highly sensitive. She's in a bit of a block right now and then Go came out and it was just absolutely not the record anyone really wanted to hear (though the vocals were brilliant) after such a void. But it would've worked fine in the middle of other stuff or if people hadn't been so starved.

jordan is right. visions has set her up for big things and if she puts out a great record it could really catapult her. if it's wack her buzz will die down a bit (like on some current day MIA shit where she's fallen off the mainstream radar but can still be an indie superstar). it doesn't matter if that record came out last year or comes out next year tho.

https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/510531702125371392

smdh ... haha

mb some aliases/sideprojects to offload material w/out fretting about the brand all the time

Lime-scales

smdh....so many dead horses??? Dude that's fucked up why is Grimes killing horses?

with all those dead horses in the sun, how's grimes 'posed to get any writing done?

Like many young people who frequently change hair color, Boucher maintains an active Tumblr

otm

People who shave animal shapes into their hair usually haven't updated their tumblr in about 2 years iirc

shaving my damn hair

stop making droopy hats......grimes is so judgmental! #grimesleavemyhatalone

http://m.pitchfork.com/news/57072-grimes-did-not-like-ariel-pinks-comments-about-madonna/

i'm pretty sure claire publicly stated she didn't want her tumblr/twitter posts to become news stories

what does she want them to become

everyone needs to stop being mean to ariel pink

hopefully a lengthy article about beta male misogyny will now get posted on every music forum

Whats so misogonist about not likink Madonna's records?

nothing per se but when you couch that dislike in vitriolic sexist/ageist/rockist language ppl are going to call you out on being a piece of shit

i can easily take sides here, grimes is cool ariel pink seems like a dick, but somehow knowing about this story makes me feel like im wasting my life

"She can’t just have her Avicii, her producers or whatever, come up with a new techno jam for her to gyrate to and pretend that she’s 20 years old. They actually need songs. I’m partly responsible for that return-to-values thing."

this sounds very sexist. but i am disturbed at the fact that it doesn't seem like ariel pink was actually ever contracted by madonna to write songs. he has always been a troubled guy... maybe now he is delusional?

The sexist think is the 20 years old thing, but I think he would have said it also if it was a male singer that he used to like and now not, too.

Yeah, there's nothing overtly misogynist/sexist in Pink's comments.

But y'know, some guy called Default Genders has weighed in, so that's worth reporting.

oh huh cool James brooks put an album out

wtf. Saying that Madonna is only making music to 'gyrate to and pretend that she's 20 years old' (because old women, lol!) is completely misogynistic. Also implying that it's just her producers who make the music, while she just dances. Because of course Madonna can't be writing her own stuff.

there's nothing overt, just the ongoing theme of diminishing the songwriting talents of women and giving full credit to their producers, something that's seldom done to men

obviously different vocalists have varying levels of songwriting/arranging/production input on their albums but it's seldom used against men as a weapon to diminish their perceived talent

whoops, Frederik beat me to it

that point came to mind in the last few days following the news of Mark Bell's death. some people not that familiar with his LFO work mentioned his ongoing collaboration with Bjork, which is cool, but some people went far enough to say he was "responsible" for one of their fave Bjork albums which is completely wrongheaded as he was an amazing producer but Bjork notably does her own work. but I guess men do the real work, or something.

"responsible" in this context is one of those terms which can mean pretty much any degree of credit for the final product. not sure where you saw it but I could imagine someone using it yesterday to bang out a Mark Bell obit as fast as possible without having to look into exactly what his role was

naw

I’m partly responsible for that return-to-values thing.

hahaha