Is this anti-semitism?

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I didn't say there was no complicity, just that its negligible in the scope of things. And it's like two steps removed from actually impacting Israeli policy - the idea being that a) boycott the universities (OK no problem there), b) universities then respond by accepting the demands of the boycotters (highly unlikely, when has this ever happened? the boycott would just make them more isolationist and defensive, not cooperative) and then c) Israeli government acquiesces to the (coerced) demands of its academic institutions (also highly unlikely given that its the gov't that has leverage over the universities, not the other way around). The whole thing seems poorly conceived.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

And still smacks of stifling ideas you disagree with.

bnw, Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah I'm treating that as a separate issue

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

that was reparations ffs

Mordy, Sunday, 14 September 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

They can pry my precious egyptian gold from my cold dead hands

Οὖτις, Sunday, 14 September 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this place is like a block from my house. my (jewish) wife and i have met this dude and bought coffee from him a few times. he didn't strike me as a raving anti semite at the time but who knows what evil lurks in the hearts etc.

adam, Thursday, 2 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

what evil lurks in the hearts of instagram

Mordy, Thursday, 2 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/0dB6CMw.jpg

This guy got 8% of the vote in the 2014 Ukrainian Presidential election.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 October 2014 07:07 (nine years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/news/57253-mark-kozelek-adam-granofsky-blues/

een, Friday, 31 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

um, care to fill us in?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 31 October 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://dsadevil.blogspot.com/2014/11/dominating-anti-semitism.html

Mordy, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 04:59 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5487156f/turbine/la-na-new-york-synagogue-stabbing-20141209-001/750/750x422

Man investigates crime scene while dressed as the abominable snowman

how's life, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

i davened + learned at that shul (770) for the year that i lived in crown heights :/

there's a great sicha from the rebbe about 770 where he points out that 770 is the gematria of 'Bais Moshiach' (house of the messiah)

Mordy, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 01:05 (nine years ago) link

idgi?

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

The signoff: "Thanks again and Molotov."

Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

oh, i just assumed autocorrect and not like... a dig? i don't even know what the dig would be

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

here's my 'this is antisemitism' post of the day:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/al-aqsa-speaker-the-slaughter-of-the-jews-is-near/

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

of course it's an error, but i wouldn't expect Scott Walker (conservative governor and noted idiot) to know the difference.

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

Oops

Root It Oot (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 December 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

thought this was good:
http://tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/187652/my-jewish-feminist-problem

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

I don't know why this popped into my head since I haven't read it in years, but any thoughts on Cohn in Sun Also Rises? I have heard the portrayal described as anti-semitic, but I didn't find it to be at the time because 1) it didn't seem like the typical Jewish character portrayal and 2) it felt believable to me, this overcompensating, insecure Jewish boxer character. Like I think it's a very fine line, but recognizing ways in which someone's religious/cultural/ethnic upbringing could put insecurities into them, and that a particular individual might react to that in a particular way, even if it's a negative trait, doesn't strike me as anti-semitic per se.

man alive, Sunday, 21 December 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

Mordy, I did not think that Chesler article you linked was good. Because like many such articles it features characters like this:

Her tone is no longer light; it has become dark, coarse, mocking.

“Israel?! It deserves exactly what it’s getting. And more. And don’t think America doesn’t deserve what it’s getting too.”

We are sitting a mile away from Ground Zero in New York City.

“Have you no compassion for the innocent?” I say, shocked by her cold, driven, vehemence.

Who are these people? I live in a lefty town and move in lefty circles and I am a big old Zionist and nobody ever acts like this to me. Mind you there are plenty of people who think Israel is wrong a lot. Who would call themselves anti-Zionists. But they don't talk this way. Or think this way.

Also: this is nitpicky but

She answers me by coolly saying that “15 percent of the United States Senate is Jewish. The American Jewish Israel Lobby is very powerful. They will never allow America to broker a just peace in the Middle East.” Actually, the 108th Congress (which includes both the Senate and the House) has 535 members of whom 37 or 7 percent are Jews. But no matter.

According to Wikipedia, 10 Senators, or 10%, are Jewish. I mean, 10% is not 15% but why change the question to one her interlocutor wasn't actually asking, by including the House, just to make the number farther off from 15%? (Note: I do NOT know how many senators in the 108th congress were Jews and I am not going to bother to check.)

But do I think the Chesler article is anti-Semitic? No I do not. I think it demonstrates a lot of antipathy towards Jews and our practices (seriously? She takes it upon herself to stand up in shul and deliver a political proclamation and then she doesn't get it that the people praying there are annoyed?) But I don't think her attitude is predicated on antipathy towards Jews generally, I think it really is grounded in a political disagreement which is prior.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 22 December 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link

I was also gonna say that any time an essay uses the device of "my anonymous friend said _____" my strawman detectors go off

man alive, Monday, 22 December 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link

And I also disliked the move-the-goalposts thing she did with the senate vs the "congress."

man alive, Monday, 22 December 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/EVKontorovich/status/549799373153255424

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link

Yes, that is anti-Semitism. Was that supposed to be a hard one?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

ok here's a harder one:
http://tabletmag.com/scroll/188052/harpercollins-leaves-israel-off-school-atlas

A HarperCollins atlas designed for students at English-speaking schools in the Middle East published in May 2014 has apparently scrubbed Israel from the region. According to the similarly-named U.K. Catholic newspaper The Tablet, the maps in Collins Primary Geography Atlas for the Middle East “depict Jordan and Syria extending all the way to the Mediterranean Sea.”

Collins Bartholomew, the subsidiary of HarperCollins that specialises in maps, told The Tablet that including Israel would have been “unacceptable” to their customers in the Gulf and the amendment incorporated “local preferences”.

Mordy, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

Still parsing this magazine cover, don't know enough French or context (cartoon image, posting as link)

http://i.imgur.com/IW0j7.jpg

cardamon, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

A HarperCollins atlas designed for students at English-speaking schools in the Middle East published in May 2014 has apparently scrubbed Israel from the region. According to the similarly-named U.K. Catholic newspaper The Tablet, the maps in Collins Primary Geography Atlas for the Middle East “depict Jordan and Syria extending all the way to the Mediterranean Sea.”
Collins Bartholomew, the subsidiary of HarperCollins that specialises in maps, told The Tablet that including Israel would have been “unacceptable” to their customers in the Gulf and the amendment incorporated “local preferences”.

how is this any different or less odious than publishers eliminating references to evolution, etc. in textbooks to be purchased by e.g. texas public schools?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

whether it's anti-semitism or not seems a secondary question since it's clearly an instance of disgusting cowardice

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link

tbh anti-semitism bothers me a lot more than disgusting cowardice

Mordy, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

They've pulped the books, fwiw.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link

That was a pretty egregious and stupid mistake imo. There's disputed borders and then there's pure fantasy.

man alive, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

It's notoriously difficult to produce educational resources 'in line with Saudi norms and standards' . Other Gulf states aren't so bad but if you're only doing one edition, it has to match the most restrictive country. I've never heard of anyone doing this with maps before, though, and it's transparently stupid. I doubt it would have been mandatory.

It's tough. International education companies will inevitably play a part in modernising and secularising the Saudi education system given the chance but it also means they're stuck with compromises they would normally be very uncomfortable with.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link

Are there similar requirements in the japanese market?

cardamon, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link

(That kind of market-driven editing seems worse than state censorship to me but then I've never had to live with much of the latter)

cardamon, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link

It's also such a weird result, like they didn't even call it "palestine" they just extended other countries' borders.

man alive, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link

Not sure but Japan typically produces most of its educational resources domestically so it would come up less often. Gulf states are investing lots of money in bringing in external expertise.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link

Still parsing this magazine cover, don't know enough French or context (cartoon image, posting as link)

http://i.imgur.com/IW0j7.jpg

― cardamon, Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's a reference to the film Intouchables; I think the message is that making jokes about Muslims and Jews is not permitted ("faut pas se moquer" = it's not allowed to mock), when in the view of Charlie Hebdo nothing should be immune from satire. There's a lot more to unpack here but I'm not expert enough to be the one to do it.

Vote in the ILM EOY Poll! (seandalai), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link

My sort-of francophile sister-in-law who lived in france for a while told me that she met many people there who couldn't comprehend why a seemingly secular/liberal person would maintain a Jewish identity, or really any identity I suppose.

man alive, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

i got some of that when i was in france, but there are also plenty of proud jewish folks in france who roll their eyes at such talk.

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 8 January 2015 01:32 (nine years ago) link

I love the shootout with the baby carriage and the staircase.

how's life, Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:00 (nine years ago) link


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