2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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That’s why I say I... were ill about this position that we have been put in.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Is there anything you folks at The Corner like about McCain, or anything he or his campaign does that you approve of ? No seriously, is there anything? Because to read your posts on a daily basis is to trudge straight into 16 hours of pure disappointment. No matter what the man or his campaign says or does is either wrong, wrong, wrong, or just not quite good enough. Thank goodness there isn't more of the electorate that reads your stuff, or there wouldn't be a single conservative that would even bother to go to the polls to vote for Mr. McCain.

Look, admittedly he is not the best candidate we could have put forth. He is not the most conservative candidate we could have come up with. And heaven knows, he is not the youngest, most energetic, or best looking candidate we could have hoped for. But he is indeed our candidate, and he's all this country has standing between itself and at a minimum, 4 years of unmitigated disaster. By all rights, this man has no business even being in a competitive race, let alone one that is very close or even about tied....and electorally, he may even have a slight advantage. So it's not all doom and gloom. Sure he's had some missteps along the way, all of them do, but by and large his campaign has really been run very well, and has been much better than we could have hoped for. Obama has had a LOT more faux paus, but the main stream media is so firmly entrenched in being pro Barack and anti McCain that most of the country never hears about them. For crying out loud, we sure don't need people like those who comprise The Corner, who are purportedly on our side, acting like the MSM's Mini-Me in constantly nipping at our candidate. Rush Limbaugh is successful because he tells the truth while firing up the troops. Yes, he has been critical of Mr. McCain and will continue to be as needed, but he sure isn't out there for a full 3 hours a day tearing the man down on everything he says and does. You folks, who are extremely short on morale boosting, and always tending to find the dark spot instead of the brighter side, would be much better served by taking a page out of Rush's playbook. We're not asking for ra ra at the expense of meaningful criticism or dialogue, but goodness gracious, LIGHTEN UP!! At least just a bit..........pretty please? (I'd include Ramesh, but can't find his email address).

Thank you for your time

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, it's not fair to make fun of her verbage

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

But he is indeed our candidate, and he's all this country has standing between itself and at a minimum, 4 years of unmitigated disaster

they're counting backwards here, right?

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

In all fairness, it's hard not to see trade as competitive scary thing. Palin OTM.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

But he is indeed our candidate, and he's all this country has standing between itself and at a minimum, 4 years of unmitigated disaster

how many times have we said this since FISA

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

We're not asking for ra ra at the expense of meaningful criticism or dialogue, TOM, but goodness gracious, LIGHTEN UP!!

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with ... we're ill about this position that we have been put in.

RUSH LIMBAUM (jeff), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

why couldn't Palin use her UN visit to find a fucking interpreter who could render her remarks in full, complete, & correct English sentences.

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

gabbneb, that analysis of jfk/lbj is totally true

it is? it was JFK who proposed the civil rights act, and LBJ got it passed because JFK got shot, which, among other things, helped give LBJ the largest recorded percentage of the popular vote in any presidential election in American history, before or since, and because he was a 'master of the senate' with 35 years of experience in Congress that overcame the filibuster by Southern Dems (with the aid of upper midwestern liberals). JFK won AL, GA, the Carolinas and LA, and got more votes than Nixon in Mississippi, while LBJ lost all those states, getting about half JFK's vote in AL, and 1/3 of it (less than 13%) in MS.

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with ... we're ill about this position that we have been put in.

[komedy palin porn 'shop goes here]

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Because to read your posts on a daily basis is to trudge straight into 16 hours of pure disappointment.

Full day.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade

lol

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade

missed one!

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I want to thank Chris for doing this... and everybody here so much. It just pulled me through a really hard period. Anyway, I couldn't have done it without you. I don't know what I'm saying. I really hated myself before I came here, so I'm trying to see myself, hopefully, more as I am. More... more positive, like seeing the pluses. I think it's slowly opening up now. People's minds, like educating and, and AIDS and... and other types of diseases because... because it is a disease, because it's out there and we just have to be more aware of it. We have to make people aware of it and, even ourselves, like, going, reading labels... and going into buildings...

To Carol!

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

lbj lost those states because he was running against goldwater who voted against the civil rights act

xxxxp to smuggneb

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

teetering between hilarity and nausea here

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

it'll really turn into nausea if people continue to like her at all

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lbj lost those states because he was running against goldwater who voted against the civil rights act

no shit. and irrelevant - my point is his southern populism gave him no 'cover' for being more liberal than jfk.

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Do not let them come over here and attempt again what they accomplished here, and that was some destruction.

the lesser acknowledged web works of charlotte. SOME DESTRUCTION!

oh wait making a SOME PIG crack is sexism right

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

A reader:

It seems to me that on Wednesday each candidate did what he was most comfortable doing - McCain showed leadership and his desire to get something accomplished; Obama campaigned.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously, Obama ads from here on out should just be extended clips of this interview. No music, no commentary, except someone at the beginning saying "Sarah Palin on...[topic]." Maybe even pitch it as a series of Sniglet-like things. Palin-isms. Like those crappy gift books of Bush malaprops, only as a campaign tool. No smears, no "he said she said" - it's all SHE SAID and it's all EMBARASSINGLY DUMB.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

also they should photoshop her head onto a chick in a bikini

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah but then you get the voters who are all "this candidate has no fucking clue when it comes to the important issues of the day, other than what she is told by her right-wing message overlords... JUST LIKE ME! she got my vote, yuip yup."

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

then we all win

xp

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

okay so now that a deal is reached McCain still won't do the debate

I'm sorry but Clinton is totally wrong about McCain here - obviously this has been done in bad faith.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Increasingly, I feel she was ill-advised to turn the sound down during the Tina Fey parody.

Also, stop photoshopping Putin's head onto my sexy bikini pictures!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

still waiting for palin to get back to couric with those examples of when john mccain supported regulation

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

putin already has sexy bikini pictures i think

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

need her photoshopped into:

bnw, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnews/20080924/ts_usnews/mccainteamblastspollshowingobamaleading

"We have an incredibly stable race," said McInturff, who insisted that the campaign's internal tracking has not revealed any volatility in public opinion over the past 2� weeks as the financial crisis has unfurled. Professing respect for the Post-ABC pollsters, he added, "I don't think these results are at all indicative of what's happening in the campaign."

"The race," he said, "is margin of error nationally." The poll-tracking website RealClearPolitics.com shows Obama currently with an aggregate 3.2 percentage-point edge in an average of national polls.

McInturff also suggested that historic polling models being used are obsolete because they are unable to factor in what is expected to be record turnout--he predicts 125 million--and unprecedented excitement. "Lots and lots of people no one has ever seen before" are going to show up and vote in this election, he said.

lmmmmmao @ "campaign's internal tracking" & the idea that increased voter turn-out is all young mccainiacs

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"there's a bunch of young urban voters registering for the first time this year - you can't count mccain out just yet!"

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

s1ocki, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

urban

RUSH LIMBAUM (jeff), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

they could do ANYTHING - they are YOUNG and full of UNPREDICTABLE VITALITY!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

you're forgetting about the pitbulls and the hockey moms, they will decide this thing

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

lotsa pitbulls in urban areas, that's all I'm saying

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

it's already lost in the shuffle but tha vimeo link i posted was a sarah silverman bit that's going around. pretty funny.

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

man, I can't handle this many lafffs in one day

so if crashing and burning is an inappropriate metaphor for McCain here, can we get some alternative suggestions...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

it's funny if you like silverman

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link

cratering, xp

caek, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, i'm starting to feel a little more settled now. mccain and palin are such a mess right now that i can't see them winning this thing, the convention bounce has been completely nullified and palin is like a deer caught in the headlights these days.

omar little, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, a hot sexy librarian type deer that you want to cover with whipped cream

Mr. Que, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

cell phone users for mccain/palin

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

tina fey as sarah palin was about 10x hotter than the real thing imo

omar little, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

obv

omar little, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

hey jeff i know you think i'm some kind of secret racist hypocrite so you follow me around calling out my posts like nate patrin pt2 but what i'm talking aobut is that i've been working at the campaign for change office downtown to help register voters under 25 who live in fulton county, meaning metro atlanta

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

also
http://culturekitchen.com/files/sarahpalin-moostachelove.jpg

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Dat moose is way too happy

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/129016.html

Today was hardly the first time John McCain has put Country First by showily "suspending" his campaign for the White House. On March 31, 1999, a week before his scheduled "official announcement" confirming the months-old news that he was running for president, and a week after Bill Clinton sent bombers over Kosovo, McCain announced that "It's not appropriate at this time to launch a political campaign."

How'd that work for him politically? According to sympathetic biographer Robert Timberg,

His decision amounted to a masterful political stroke. The Washington Post's Mary McGrory said that "professional politicians of both parties were wowed by McCain's beau geste.... McCain has made himself the de facto Republican foreign policy spokesman, and is getting yards of publicity for a non-event." The kudos kept pouring in, as did even more demands for him to appear on news-oriented TV talk shows. On one day alone, Monday, April 5, he could be seen arguing his case on Fox News's Crier Report, CNN's Larry King Live, PBS's Charlie Rose, two programs on CNBC, and two more on MSNBC, according to the Post's Dan Balz. Balz quoted one Republican strategist as labeling the conflict in Kosovo "All McCain, all the time." By week's end, syndicated columnist Mark Shields, on CNN's Capital Gang, said, "Let me just say in thirty-five years in Washington, I have never seen a debate dominated by an individual in the minority party as I've seen this one dominated by John McCain."

As Jake Tapper reported, in a May 1999 Salon piece that began with the phrase "First, a confession: Sen. John McCain almost seduced me":

"It tells people, here's a guy who doesn't need consultants to tell him what he believes in," says Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., another McCain 2000 co-chairman. "Contrast that with who's been leading this country for the last seven years."

"He's surged in New Hampshire," brags Warren Rudman. "He went from 3 percent to 15 percent in just a month."

As Sen. Gordon Smith puts it, "He's won the Kosovo primary."

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link


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