we should also acknowledge the article where he goes into how 2004 was the year everything changed
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/386468/year-culture-broke-armond-white
re: negative reviews of passion of the christ
It was moral vandalism, sullying ideas and totems sacred to many. Such a fundamental offense devastated civilized behavior in ways many still have not realized. It drove a wedge between the public and the elites who make movies; the very ground we walked upon as enlightened, cultured people was scorched like Ground Zero at the World Trade Center.
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
half of the blurbs are otm
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
the fact that he's half-right is part of what makes him a troll beyond compare
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
14) A History of Violence (2005) — David Cronenberg’s new take on Ugly Americans blamed patriotic sadism.
*~~American flags flutter in the breeze over the compound of corrupt Republican Senator Richie Cusack (William Hurt)~~*
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
He's right re: the vile Mr. & Mrs. Smith, but, as evidenced by his Dark Knight blurb, he doesn't even properly read the films he has good reason to trash.
― MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
the Slumdog blurb is tom
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
otm too
i can easily imagine someone realizing that 2004 had two very striking, very different blockbusters and considering the effect of those hits on hollywood. but it takes a real champ to roid up to AND SUDDENLY GLOBAL TEATIME WAS SHATTERED AND THE NOBILITY OF POP CULTURE WAS LOST FOREVER without even the slightest bit of second guessing
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
and throwing in weird asides about how the fix was in at cannes thanks to tarantino instead of an actual investigation of pop film history
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
Hipster Hollywood
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link
Maybe I'm forgetting the weird misogyny of there will be blood, idk. Strange to hear that complaint, though, from a reverent fan of 3000 Miles to Graceland.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
that instead of hollywood reflecting the red-state/blue-state schism, critics and liberal directors CAUSED it. in TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR.
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
"liberals ruined america, can i write about it for you?"
"Please do, older black dude with journalistic credentials! Score!"
"LO, HOW THE HANGOVER DID SHIT UPON MY ONCE BEAUTIFUL WORLD. OH CURSED TARANTINO. FOUL BRANGELINA!"
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
happy Brangelina Wedding Aftermath btw everybody
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
i hope his book fills in the gaps between nanook of the north and pulp fiction, maybe a bit about how in 1984 Beverly Hills Cop, Ghostbusters and Police Academy reflected a sense that hipsters and authority structures were learning to co-exist under reagan, smoothing the ruptures of the 60s
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
Surprised at how (relatively) subdued his pan of Boyhood was, with exactly zero shit-throwing over the Obama stuff or the (largely misunderstood, I think) representations of Red State America.
― MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
ha – isn't this what J. Hoberman's book is about?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link
not in a rush to find out but it wouldn't surprise me
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:47 (nine years ago) link
In what the New York Times’s A.O. Scott called a “suave, scholarly tour de force,” J. Hoberman delivers a brilliant and witty look at the decade when politics and pop culture became one.
This was the era of the Missile Gap and the Space Race, the Black and Sexual Revolutions, the Vietnam War and Watergate—as well as the tele-saturation of the American market and the advent of Pop art. In “elegant, epigrammatic prose,” as Scott put it, Hoberman moves from the political histories of movies to the theater of wars, national political campaigns, and pop culture events.
With entertaining reinterpretations of key Hollywood movies (such as Bonnie and Clyde, The Wild Bunch, and Shampoo), and meditations on personages from Che Guevara, John Wayne, and Patty Hearst to Jane Fonda, Ronald Reagan, and Dirty Harry, Hoberman reconstructs the hidden political history of 1960s cinema and the formation of America’s mass-mediated politics.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
capital letters, so it's important
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Armond misses 2004, and this is all straight up nostalgia.
― a guy named Christian White who represents the typical white Christian (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
You'll Never Believe Which Of Your Favorite Movies Ruined Our Country
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
That said, I'll probably get What We Don't Talk about When We Talk about the Movies from the library when it comes out.
― a guy named Christian White who represents the typical white Christian (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
Armond misses 2004, and this is all a suave, scholarly tour de force.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
I just hope Mel Gibson reads it and gives Armond a "you get me" bouquet
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
saw this pop up on twitter and i knew this thread would be all a-light
― goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
these sentences, my god
― goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
SARCASTIC VIOLENCE IS THE NEW MARRIAGE EQUALITY
― goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
i feel like i'm reading dayo's hong kong tshirt thread
Armond misses 2004, and the toilet.
― a guy named Christian White who represents the typical white Christian (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
Armond gets slack from me these days for saying that Michael Cera is a "modern Sterling Holloway."
http://www.studiosystemnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Michael-Cera.jpg http://poorwilliam.net/pix/holloway-sterling2.jpg
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
David Fincher’s new Horatio Alger tale glorified technocrat Mark Zuckerberg with chic, digital-era arrogance.
"Glorified." You know, the guy who ends the movie alone and debating whether or not to send a friend request to the girl who dumped him at the beginning of the movie, showing he had grown not a bit.
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
Armond gets slack from me these days for being the most interesting part of the NYFCC banquet.
― a guy named Christian White who represents the typical white Christian (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
well arguably any movie about a person is "glorification" in the sense that you're suggesting they're worthy of getting a movie about them. though the fact that he calls it a "new horatio alger tale" does undermine his thesis that these movies were unprecedented blows to our collective morality from the liberal left
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
that's why Armond's a perfect fit for NRO. "Glorify" is one of their favorite verbs.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
i still think he's gonna get too real for them eventually
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
He's splitting the suicidal conservatives who won't watch Hollyporn from the ones who go, "Well, wait a minute, I can like The Dark Knight and vote for Romney" more than anything I've seen on the regular site.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link
yeah i assume one day he's going to piss off bruce willis or somebody and then he'll be quietly dispatched from the site
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
Just now on Twitter:
Glenn Kenny @Glenn__Kenny 13sShorter Armond White: God how I hate attractive, socially adept people
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link
oh come on jesus was clearly attractive and socially adept
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
ok we can debate "socially adept" considering his fate but dude obv had a pull
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
There you go, glorifying Jesus again.
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylYzbB-tLcs
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
for all his manias and delusions, i suspect AW can still distinguish what constitutes a romantic comedy.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
Michael Cera is a "modern Sterling Holloway."
omg how could I not have noticed this before
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius),
whew! it saves you the trouble
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
c'mon man this is the armond white thread, if you're gonna troll show some teeth
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
"meh meh lest you forget i'm uptight about people liking judd apatow movies" armond white has declared judd apatow movies in part responsible for the fall of man try harder
― da croupier, Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
Armond said liberal media disparaging the passion of the Christ was worse than 9/11. That's a pretty high bar for any troll to match.
― a guy named Christian White who represents the typical white Christian (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
I don't wanna derail this thread, but Jesus kinda strikes me as one of the least socially adept people ever... Like, the guy attacked the freaking temple in Jerusalem, that was quite clearly a social no-go...
― Frederik B, Thursday, 28 August 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link