rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

what do u think of the word 'jazzbo'

2 US archaic A person, especially a black man.

Here are names of some toys that will make many reader squinch: Jazzbo Jim, Tombo Alabama Coon Jigger, Ham and Sam, and Somstepa Coon Jigger. They certainly don't represent the finest hour of American manufacturing history.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-05-05/features/1991125223_1_black-memorabilia-jigger-jazzbo

I had never heard that meaning of jazzbo before! Had always taken it to mean geeks with sick chops.

note that it doesnt say it is derogatory in itself, just that any 'neutral' word for 'a person, especially a black man' in early 20th c america will inevitably carry the value inferences of its age

I always thought jazzbo was a beatnik term--like a white dude grooving to a Charlie Parker set

2 US archaic A person, especially a black man.

that brief definition is provided by oxfordictionaries.com without any etymological support, not that i question their scholarship. i'm curious about this usage, though, as it's new to me. i wonder whether the word was ever really in common use in this extremely generic sense. perhaps the mention simply reflects the tendency of racist whites to turn anything associated with black culture into a hateful epithet?

http://i.imgur.com/QGAn8IU.jpg

this is selling for $1900 on ebay

sick mouthy should be looking to expect around £25,000 for his mint condition ronaldinho bottle opener in 50 years time

can i still call jazz guys "cats"?

only if you're talking about the ownership of their bases

does the name of the toy describe the character as a musician (playing banjo, "dancer"), or is it simply generic? and is there any clear difference between the two, given popular racist notions regarding "natural" aptitudes?

asking because i don't think that the tendency of racists to use the language of black culture in a hateful manner should be granted the power to render the language racist. suppose it's a question of degree.

Someone should ask a Black person.

[nods sagely]

Albert Richard "Jazzbo" Collins (born January 4, 1919, Rochester, New York[1] — d. September 30, 1997, Marin County, California) was an American disc jockey, radio personality and recording artist who was briefly the host of NBC television's Tonight show in 1957.

The name "Jazzbo" derived from a product Collins had seen, a clip-on bowtie named Jazzbows.

Let's ask Prince Jazzbo.

http://dublab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/jazzbo.jpeg

Except he's dead. What about another DJ, Jazzbo Collins?

http://cover7.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/Large/52/1054352.jpg

A popular segment on his show was the "no stinkin' badges" routine. Al would politely request the main guest for that day don a Mexican bandit costume, complete with ammo belts crossing the chest, six-guns in holsters, a huge sombrero and large fake mustache. The guest then had to pose in front of cameras and for the TV audience. With pistols pointing at the camera lens the guest had to say (with emphasis) "I don't got to show you no stinkin' badges." If the guest did not say it with sufficient sinister tone Collins made him or her repeat it until in Al's opinion the guest got it right.

But he's dead too.

also from al "jazzbo"'s wikipedia page:

A popular segment on his show was the "no stinkin' badges" routine. Al would politely request the main guest for that day don a Mexican bandit costume, complete with ammo belts crossing the chest, six-guns in holsters, a huge sombrero and large fake mustache. The guest then had to pose in front of cameras and for the TV audience. With pistols pointing at the camera lens the guest had to say (with emphasis) "I don't got to show you no stinkin' badges." If the guest did not say it with sufficient sinister tone Collins made him or her repeat it until in Al's opinion the guest got it right.

oh sorry for the repeat post. you've got to be quick on this site.

in any event, at least one jazzbo, we know, was racist

Oof. My dad has a few Al "Jazzbo" Collins 78s that he played for me when I was a kid, and I remember them as being hilarious, but no idea if they hold up. That's some seriously fucked-up shit about his tv show, though.

Elvis Costello gets Stroppy with Aging Jazzbo

apparently, it was once thought by some that the genre's appellation descended from a musician named "jazzbo"

that's according to this site, anyway

the word "jazz" comes from "jasm", which meant semen but also was used to denote vitality and energy. this according to an art history professor from college.

All this jazzbo talk, I was about to make a witty remark about the Hasbro toy company.

But wait. Remember when "bro" was more of an African American reference, soul brother 70s street "jive" talk, etc?

Now it's more about frat boys and white people who surprise each other with bottles of Smirnoff Ice. Hasbro indeed.

Most of the music's innovators -- Ellington, Miles, Mingus, Monk, many others -- hated the term "jazz," which they (rightly) saw as limiting and demeaning at best.

Elvis Costello gets Stroppy with Aging Jazzbo

― lars von (Treeship), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:16 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^fuck elvis i just picked up a gary peacock/mal waldren record at a garage sale, dude rules

who'd have thought a racial slur would be mentioned in conjunction with elvis costello

what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0c2GQWBdY

Native America Become “Naturally Lazy” on The FADER‏

http://circuitsweet.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/b994e988-8fe7-4892-a306-7ba905033ad1.jpg

ha ha

are you fucking kidding me

brb, tearing my face off in frustration

When asked about the origin of their band name, frontman Ross Farbe explained, “I was thinking about the heritage of the music I wanted to create, and how rock and roll originated in America. It’s a joining of cultures and influences that could only happen in our young, strange country.”

yes this is racist

sigh

“People are scared to love the Beatles,” says Ross Farbe, vocalist and guitarist of New Orleans dream-pop, rock ‘n’ roll band Native America. “Along with that, the Beach Boys. Another band that everyone’s afraid to like. We adore them.”

are we at that point in the decade again, because I thought people love the shit out of those

People are scared to love the Beatles and Beach Boys? Was there ever a time or place where this was true?

iran, 1980

Soviet Union in 1970?

and so forth

sad that quote is too long for a thread title

all right, fine, ya got me

Scared to hate them more like... LOL 'scared' tho

That's what's wrong with music these days, not enough musicians hate the Beatles

looks like a still from 'the strokes - the high school years'.

first they came for the beatles

guilty of loving the beatles

also qualifies for the unfortunate band photo thread. First track doesn't sound too bad, a little like Dr. Dog.

http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/blogs/editor/2014/09/thug-kitchen-author-real-names-revealed.html

oh ffs