2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Mock?

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

sarah is the only one in this campaign strong and brave enough to say "mr. putin, tear down this ice bridge" and I salute her for it

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

what the fucking fuck, is she actually putting forth the possibility that Russia would invade Alaska? i'm trying to parse it differently but she's really really saying that, huh

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"foreign countries that are our neighbors"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sure McCain will stand up to Mexican invaders, too.

A bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (dan m), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

this is like saying you have law enforcement experience because there is a mafioso who lives next door

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land-- boundary that we have with-- Canada. It-- it's funny that a comment like that was-- kind of made to-- cari-- I don't know, you know? Reporters--

Uh, takes one to know one.

Michael White, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

sound it out with me, sarah: CAR-I-CA-TURE

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Have we remarked on the bit where she talks about how we can't retreat from Iraq, never actually mentions or even seems to be dimly aware of the fact that we agreed to split in 2011 or so?

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, what's the consensus that they're trying to cancel this debate just to set up a precedent they can then use to cancel the VP debate?

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

sarah never said the russians would invade alaska. we're just keeping an eye on them, that's all.

I SEE YOU PUTIN! YOU SEE ME WATCHING U?

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha guys, Katie Couric is not a softball interviewer! I have watched both her and Matt Lauer put the screws to people on Today and it's always been hilarious, as the target has invariably had this expression on his/her face like "wtf, this is The Today Show, not 60 Minutes".

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

both she and john mccain are clearly people who grew up with a deficiency of people telling them NO. from very different circumstances, obviously, but they have the same mentality all the same. they seem to not grasp what the rest of the adult world understands, in common, to be true. i don't even think they know they're violating social rules. they'll say whatever they want from one moment to the next, without any consistency or comportment with basic facts, because it doesn't really matter.

to most of us it would seem insane to stick to the story that being next to russia means fuck all, or that suspending your campaign while running out your ads and attack dogs meant a damn thing.

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know, you know?
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little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

fucking airhead

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

would stab

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

YESSSSSS

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

basically, we're dealing with a mental midget who thought she could just go as far as she could through sheer sticktoitiveness and people skills and managed to get far in a small, backwater pond, and now, after being thrown into a huge ocean by a guy who's not the brightest bulb himself, is realizing that she has no idea how to swim

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

what the fucking fuck, is she actually putting forth the possibility that Russia would invade Alaska? i'm trying to parse it differently but she's really really saying that, huh

i imagine there are people who cling to the notion that we will one day have to confront godless Russians on the battlefield, just as they insist that a war in Iraq keeps terrorism off or soil. And I'd wager these people are going to vote for McCain/Palin.

omg @ Putin float xxpost

flyover statesman (will), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.rudde.se/spies%20like%20us.jpg

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

you liberals are always hiding behind your smarty pants internets and mocking people, good brave people like john mccain and sarah palin. you want to hear something really funny, ask yourself who barack obama is going to call at 3am when russia attacks alaska.

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

^^ rocked that single hard when i was 7

flyover statesman (will), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

House Financial Services chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) said the agreement should calm the markets, and noted, "Some of us have been invited to the White House to try and break a deadlock, and I'm glad that well be able to go and tell them that there isn't that much of a deadlock to break." He paused and added, "But I'm always glad to get to go to the White House."

I would totally vote for Barney Frank right now. Frank/Dodd 16!

rogermexico., Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ this

dude's only 68, obama could at least throw him a cabinet post

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

you can see her getting really testy at having to explain to ENEMIES what she feels to be true or has been told is true: "Well, it certainly does because our next door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that i am the executive of."

very defensive in environments requiring self-presentation, negotiation, contested ideas, etc. this is lack of qualification bordering on sociopathy.

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Ladies and gentlemen, the William Burroughs cut-up method of answering questions:

COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? Allow them to spend more, and put more money into the economy, instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in. Where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh, it’s got to be about job creation, too. Shoring up our economy, and getting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade — we have got to see trade as opportunity, not as, uh, competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation.

Oh my god pink flamingoes (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

That’s why I say I... were ill about this position that we have been put in.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Is there anything you folks at The Corner like about McCain, or anything he or his campaign does that you approve of ? No seriously, is there anything? Because to read your posts on a daily basis is to trudge straight into 16 hours of pure disappointment. No matter what the man or his campaign says or does is either wrong, wrong, wrong, or just not quite good enough. Thank goodness there isn't more of the electorate that reads your stuff, or there wouldn't be a single conservative that would even bother to go to the polls to vote for Mr. McCain.

Look, admittedly he is not the best candidate we could have put forth. He is not the most conservative candidate we could have come up with. And heaven knows, he is not the youngest, most energetic, or best looking candidate we could have hoped for. But he is indeed our candidate, and he's all this country has standing between itself and at a minimum, 4 years of unmitigated disaster. By all rights, this man has no business even being in a competitive race, let alone one that is very close or even about tied....and electorally, he may even have a slight advantage. So it's not all doom and gloom. Sure he's had some missteps along the way, all of them do, but by and large his campaign has really been run very well, and has been much better than we could have hoped for. Obama has had a LOT more faux paus, but the main stream media is so firmly entrenched in being pro Barack and anti McCain that most of the country never hears about them. For crying out loud, we sure don't need people like those who comprise The Corner, who are purportedly on our side, acting like the MSM's Mini-Me in constantly nipping at our candidate. Rush Limbaugh is successful because he tells the truth while firing up the troops. Yes, he has been critical of Mr. McCain and will continue to be as needed, but he sure isn't out there for a full 3 hours a day tearing the man down on everything he says and does. You folks, who are extremely short on morale boosting, and always tending to find the dark spot instead of the brighter side, would be much better served by taking a page out of Rush's playbook. We're not asking for ra ra at the expense of meaningful criticism or dialogue, but goodness gracious, LIGHTEN UP!! At least just a bit..........pretty please? (I'd include Ramesh, but can't find his email address).

Thank you for your time

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, it's not fair to make fun of her verbage

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

But he is indeed our candidate, and he's all this country has standing between itself and at a minimum, 4 years of unmitigated disaster

they're counting backwards here, right?

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

In all fairness, it's hard not to see trade as competitive scary thing. Palin OTM.

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

But he is indeed our candidate, and he's all this country has standing between itself and at a minimum, 4 years of unmitigated disaster

how many times have we said this since FISA

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

We're not asking for ra ra at the expense of meaningful criticism or dialogue, TOM, but goodness gracious, LIGHTEN UP!!

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with ... we're ill about this position that we have been put in.

RUSH LIMBAUM (jeff), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

why couldn't Palin use her UN visit to find a fucking interpreter who could render her remarks in full, complete, & correct English sentences.

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

gabbneb, that analysis of jfk/lbj is totally true

it is? it was JFK who proposed the civil rights act, and LBJ got it passed because JFK got shot, which, among other things, helped give LBJ the largest recorded percentage of the popular vote in any presidential election in American history, before or since, and because he was a 'master of the senate' with 35 years of experience in Congress that overcame the filibuster by Southern Dems (with the aid of upper midwestern liberals). JFK won AL, GA, the Carolinas and LA, and got more votes than Nixon in Mississippi, while LBJ lost all those states, getting about half JFK's vote in AL, and 1/3 of it (less than 13%) in MS.

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with ... we're ill about this position that we have been put in.

[komedy palin porn 'shop goes here]

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Because to read your posts on a daily basis is to trudge straight into 16 hours of pure disappointment.

Full day.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade

lol

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade

missed one!

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I want to thank Chris for doing this... and everybody here so much. It just pulled me through a really hard period. Anyway, I couldn't have done it without you. I don't know what I'm saying. I really hated myself before I came here, so I'm trying to see myself, hopefully, more as I am. More... more positive, like seeing the pluses. I think it's slowly opening up now. People's minds, like educating and, and AIDS and... and other types of diseases because... because it is a disease, because it's out there and we just have to be more aware of it. We have to make people aware of it and, even ourselves, like, going, reading labels... and going into buildings...

To Carol!

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

lbj lost those states because he was running against goldwater who voted against the civil rights act

xxxxp to smuggneb

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

teetering between hilarity and nausea here

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

it'll really turn into nausea if people continue to like her at all

goole, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lbj lost those states because he was running against goldwater who voted against the civil rights act

no shit. and irrelevant - my point is his southern populism gave him no 'cover' for being more liberal than jfk.

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Do not let them come over here and attempt again what they accomplished here, and that was some destruction.

the lesser acknowledged web works of charlotte. SOME DESTRUCTION!

oh wait making a SOME PIG crack is sexism right

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

A reader:

It seems to me that on Wednesday each candidate did what he was most comfortable doing - McCain showed leadership and his desire to get something accomplished; Obama campaigned.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously, Obama ads from here on out should just be extended clips of this interview. No music, no commentary, except someone at the beginning saying "Sarah Palin on...[topic]." Maybe even pitch it as a series of Sniglet-like things. Palin-isms. Like those crappy gift books of Bush malaprops, only as a campaign tool. No smears, no "he said she said" - it's all SHE SAID and it's all EMBARASSINGLY DUMB.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link


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