Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

Yeah, actually, my eyes elided over 'bitchmade', probably because I have no idea what it means? Is it a US thing or am I just behind on my internet slang? Obv anything with 'bitch' is going to be at least a little problematic.

Anyway, the general thrust of goole's post is still OTM.

also

Among them was current Kotaku writer Nathan Grayson, apparently solicitating sexual favours for positive press.

so solicitating is a word now?

also

leveraging her sexual connections

this guy's whole take on sex and women is unsurprisingly weird and awkward and how you might expect an extra terrestrial to discuss human behaviour when viewed from afar

also

https://thezoepost.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/screen-shot-2014-08-19-at-7-07-56-pm.png

is astonishingly asinine and self-serving bullshit

did i ever talk about how i went to my brother's convocation from college (diff in Canada, college != university, actually not 100% sure of the american analogue to this -- technical college? junior college? you can take anything from a 6mo bartending course to a 4y PR course) in this thread?

he convocated (sry not a word) with the entire media division of his school, he was in radio but i also saw the kids go up for tv, PR, advertising, etc etc etc including game design. as someone working in that field my heart was mildly warmed to see the bright new faces of the industry get their diploma-certificate-things. i was significantly less warmed to see more fedoras worn with gowns (2) than women (0). :( always reminded that the overwhelming sameness of the people working in the industry doesn't just start at the corporate level, it starts super super low. i was hoping, i guess?, that at the age newly graduating, the gap would be decreasing -- after all, everyone, not just boys of families with means, have had computers and internet from... almost birth at this point! and yet, something is still happening where the culture even at the education level is still homogenized. i dont get why the priv sector doesn't see this as a problem. of course tho investing in scholarships and grants for women would be seen as an attack on MENS RIGHTS or something idk. the whole thing BUMS ME OUT. :(

i meant to say something a day ago re: "bitchmade" and didn't. it's an ugly coinage when unpacked even just a little. so, yeah.

in the '90s bitchmade meant 'awesome' (probably?)

some good news:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/female-adults-oust-teenage-boys-largest-gaming-demographic/

have not investigated much beyond headlines but apparently a couple internet creepo types made a 'documentary' 'exposing' anita sarkeesian (sp)

just a heads up i guess

or 'are making' more accurately

why can't any of these be as entertaining as "In Search of Bigfoot"

re: the documentary, I liked a lot about this piece:

http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/26/video-games-misogyny-and-terrorism-a-guide-to-assholes

But it’s hard to self-identify as “a gamer” when there’s also a large swathe of that community apparently committed to presenting us all as a bunch of hateful sociopaths. It’s like being a moderate Muslim in the middle of the continuing ISIS takeover and oppression of Iraq.

heh

Maybe the ISIS dudes met on 4chan.

since even relative-anonymity on the internet makes ppl act like assholes, obv the answer is:

http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/panopticon-diagram.jpg

haha why didn't i watch this before

these guys are amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROHvvtUcp8I

Watched some of that a few days ago and it took me three minutes to figure out it wasn't a parody. The 'tasche dude is unreal.

*'tache*

oh god i'm terrified of that

the standy-up guy likes some Ayn Rand too so y'know

Wow, have you looked at mustachioed guy's channel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdkB2-kqbrw&list=UU6TJdRrZR_WacbxJWiRZ5_g

god, they're so fucking boring

http://www.funnymemes.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mOtVh6v.gif

He's like a dozen different kinds of creep all at once. I'm dreading this video titled 'The Jewish Question'.

^interest peaked^

Unless the answer is "Try the rugelach, you'll like it," run

Anyway, Feminist Frequency's new video is good stuff. The scene she shows from God of War III is incredible.

yeah having tuned out AAA games for the past 5 years or so (except for skyrim) i was amazed/horrified by that god of war clip

is it notably worse than the fucking QTE from gow 1?

That isn't even the worst scene in God of War III, btw, it's just one that fits the parameters of Anita's theme for the video. There's a scene that isn't a background detail that is sooooo vile.

AAA games are absolutely rife with this shit and it's not even a little bit of a secret
it's part of why i'm more forgiving of the mawkish indie variety of mopey games where the sexism is more fedora'd a'la Braid

Braid wore a trilby iirc

lol wtf

https://twitter.com/dankmtl/status/505101945976422401

needs more game informer
also notable lack of joystiq and kotaku, must mean something

Lolling hard at Jim Sterling being on there, the guy who called any woman who dared to disagree with him a "feminazi slut"

It seems he had a Damascene moment at some point in the last 3 years
http://www.gamingaswomen.com/posts/2013/06/an-interview-with-jim-sterling-about-sexism-in-game-culture/

why is there a kotaku uk

most 15 year-old nerds too lazy to learn japanese

I've been watching the feminist frequency videos over past couple of days (specifically the damsels in distress trilogy). They are seriously good/depressing.

Watched that one about women in background and sadly that bit from GOW 3 is typical. The first two games were cert good but with a fair amount of uncomfortable moments like that (not just against women).

Well, let me know if I'm seeing that scene the way you are. I haven't played this game, so I'm basing everything I know about it on that scene alone. The player gets an achievement called "I didn't do it... but I wish I did." I think this is meant to read "I didn't rape her... but I wish I did." The only alternative reading I can think of is "I didn't kill her, etc.", but that doesn't make sense, since he did kill her by jamming her into the door mechanism. It could be that the game designers are such morons that they think this wasn't really killing her, because it wasn't the entire and essential purpose of the action or something. I won't credit them with not being morons.

If the first reading is most plausible, then the idea of a rape achievement goes well beyond uncomfortable. I really didn't think mainstream games had stooped that low. And this is the shit that gets 9/10.

do all AAA games have boobs in them now? did the esrb throw in the towel?

i mean what the everloving fuck
http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6075179/anita-sarkeesian-says-she-was-driven-out-of-house-by-threats
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/504718160902492160/photo/1

feel kinda like "casual" needs to be removed from the thread title

just watched the FF episode; good work

They are seriously good/depressing.

lol

https://twitter.com/MichaelToole/status/503576805169586176

Huh, there's some serious overlap between anti-feminist vloggers and atheist vloggers.

Almost find the hundreds of people lining up to post variations on 'I don't support death threats but isn't the real problem how this overshadows Sarkeesian being wrong' creepier than the full-bore psychopaths.

it's weird, you'd think minds unfettered from primitive superstition wd be less fucken stupid