OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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RIP Lou Dog

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

i'm not white whiney, i'm hispanic

marcos, Friday, 8 August 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

"white people"

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

how about instead we turn this thread into a discussion of Invisible Man, how does that suit you?

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

oops, sorry marcos!

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

whiney doesn't see color, just tumblr wites

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

WON'T SOMEBODY GET ME OFF OF THIS REEF

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

Like doing Grateful Dead songs over the "Funky Drummer break," scratching a Minutemen album, doing a folk song about KRS-One, singing Bob Marley lyrics over a Just-Ice song — it all spoke to the post-Beasties smash-up culture they were trying to promote and attempt and see through the lens of smoked out cali loving surfer bros/dalmation enthusiasts

this makes 40oz sound really cool fwiw

Treeship, Friday, 8 August 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

just let that imaginary version live, don't listen to it

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/4VMVDHO.gif

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

i think the mash-up aesthetic, in the internet era, is kind of played and combining/curating disparate sounds in itself doesn't sound refreshing in 2014. that might be why i didn't notice all the stuff whine mentioend and just remember 40oz as this ska-rap album that has a song about date rape

Treeship, Friday, 8 August 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

i dunno, it was a few years past faith no more and a bunch of shit that was already doing that general thing of combining the threads of so-cal stoner/skater/punk/whatever culture

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Can we get back to where we're all white here. Signed, One of Us White Guys That Are White.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 August 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link

Right, but Sublime took it the extra step and used actual source material like a hip-hop DJ would.

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 August 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

That awkward moment when you jam to a date rape song

lets definitely turn this into a thread where white people with comfortable upbringings talk about what other white people with comfortable upbringings were into in the Nineties, considering they're all beginning to run the world now and have no self-awareness about it

― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, August 8, 2014 3:28 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

RIP Lou Dog

― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, August 8, 2014 3:29 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm not white whiney, i'm hispanic

― marcos, Friday, August 8, 2014 3:29 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"white people"

― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Friday, August 8, 2014 3:30 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dying

da croupier, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

maybe the white manager with no self-awareness is...you

da croupier, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

lot of whites moaning in here tonight

The aim of Rooney is spot correct (Daphnis Celesta), Friday, 8 August 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

v telling that Lou Dog is black and white, makes you think

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 August 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

someday i'm going to bounce onto a thread bemoaning how it's nothing but white "ironic" fans of limp bizkit who've dabbled in rockcrit and now waste time in the office debating with other pedants about nerd trivia

oh wait no i'm not

da croupier, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

good to know

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 August 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

i sincerely hope you do

da croupier, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

ayyy lmao

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 August 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Can I nominate this Jed Perl piece on the arts? This seems not even wrong.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118958/liberals-are-killing-art-insisting-its-always-political

campreverb, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

he took so long to get to an example of one of these art-denying liberals that i was shocked to see it was alex ross discussing classical music and not someone shitting on macklemore

da croupier, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

apparently liberals err on the side of acknowledging toxic politics circling art...does he think conservatives get the "appreciating beauty vs reason" scale right or do they err on the side of ignoring toxic politics, with him as goldilocks?

da croupier, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

my sublime story: as a white southern dude of a certain age, I never heard sublime in the 90's except for the megahits and they were brief background blips... i seem to remember thinking "what I got" was some kind of rip-off of beck's "where it's at" of all things. i don't think this so-cal stuff got much exposure in tennessee. luckily, cause my dad was a music nerd and a stoner, i WAS raised on a steady diet of marley, desmond dekker and prince buster, toots, jimmy cliff, hugh mundell, dillinger, ken boothe and so on tho'.
i was working pr for (ahem) a cover group this past year and finally got around to listening to the album a time or two for the first time and it's my considered opinion that it is pretty horrible.
that's all.

man I was wondering how long this was going to go on before Whiney went all "uggh white people"

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 8 August 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

i bet

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 August 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

Like doing Grateful Dead songs over the "Funky Drummer break," scratching a Minutemen album, doing a folk song about KRS-One, singing Bob Marley lyrics over a Just-Ice song — it all spoke to the post-Beasties smash-up culture they were trying to promote and attempt and see through the lens of smoked out cali loving surfer bros/dalmation enthusiasts

. Of course there's no shortage of awkardness ("DATE RAPE STYLEE") but I can get behind the message conceptually, plus they had good taste

― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, August 8, 2014 10:23 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...

i dunno, it was a few years past faith no more and a bunch of shit that was already doing that general thing of combining the threads of so-cal stoner/skater/punk/whatever culture

― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, August 8, 2014 10:38 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is... interesting, but if FNM and sublime are the best examples of this culture then you all deserved worse than you got

♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Friday, 8 August 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

sonny bono and bob dornan win elections and your music is just comically horrible, maybe get your shit together "socal"

♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Friday, 8 August 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

music from socal to this day is generally not really good imo, the local music scene in l.a. is in partic boring.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 8 August 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

of course i listened to that sublime s/t a TON in college and it was everywhere for awhile. but not in the way nirvana was, at least where i was at. they feel like the new social distortion in terms of nostalgia tripping, albeit with a slightly different listening audience. only slightly, though, there's a lot of overlap.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 8 August 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

HIP-HOP SOUND COLLAGE PIONEERS SUBLIME

scott seward, Friday, 8 August 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

everything sounds stupid if you put it in all caps

Treeship, Friday, 8 August 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

The first time I ever encountered the whole "Bradley Nowell is a genius struck down in his prime" was when I stopped by a Best Buy early in the morning in 2006 and was waiting in line with like 10 dudes buying the three-disc(!) Sublime rarities box set, all of them speaking in reverent tones about how much they missed him.

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 August 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

xp

hip-hop sound collage pioneers sublime

does that sound better

marcos, Friday, 8 August 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

I'm thinking of recording 30 tracks of myself farting and getting it onto Spotify under the name Sublime!

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Friday, 8 August 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

Best Sublime Albums List

List Criteria: This list includes studio albums only, so if you add an album make sure it's a proper studio release.
Long Beach-natives Sublime aren't just one of the best 90s bands,but can be considered one of the best reggae bands and reggae rock bands. List of the best Sublime albums, including pictures of the album covers when available. This Sublime discography is ranked from best to worst, so the top Sublime albums can be found at the top of the list. To make it easy for you, we haven't included Sublime singles, EPs, or compilations, so everything you see here should only be studio albums. If you think the greatest Sublime album isn't high enough on the list, then be sure to vote for it so it receives the credit it deserves. Make sure you don't just vote for critically acclaimed albums; if you have a favorite Sublime album, then vote it up, even if it's not necessarily the most popular. If you want to know, "What is the Best Sublime album of all time?" or "What are the top Sublime albums?" then this list will answer your questions. Items here include everything from Sublime to 40 Oz. to Freedom.This list of popular Sublime CDs has been voted on by music fans around the world, so the order of this list isn't just one person's opinion. You may copy this list to build your own just like it, re-rank it to fit your views, then publish it to share with your Facebook friends, Twitter followers or with any other social networks you're on.
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1) 40 Oz. to Freedom

2) Sublime

3) Jah Won't Pay the Bills

4) Robbin' the Hood

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 8 August 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link

always been sorta curious about robbin the hood bc my idea of it matches whiney's description of 40 oz. upthread

but having grown up near socal i don't really need to go out of my way to listen to sublime

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 8 August 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

lol omar

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Friday, 8 August 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

haha

marcos, Friday, 8 August 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

also robbin the hood is shit, thrown-together garbage

marcos, Friday, 8 August 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

also robbin the hood is shit, thrown-together garbage

good to know!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 8 August 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link

how did I have no clue that brad is a west coaster

some dude, Friday, 8 August 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link

faith no more are so much better/have so little in common with sublime it is barely conceivable

"trough lolly"??? (stevie), Friday, 8 August 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

they are better but i think in the big picture there's a certain style of socal music, i would put chili peppers in there as well, like dudes who liked early rap and punk and minutemen and dub records and some metal and smoked shitloads of weed...

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 August 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

dekker and prince buster, toots, jimmy cliff, hugh mundell, dillinger, ken boothe and so on tho'.
i was working pr for (ahem) a cover group this past year and finally got around to listening to the album a time or two for the first time and it's my considered opinion that it is pretty horrible.
that's all.

When I was first listening to Sublime heavily, my manager from the ice cream shop I worked at (a black man maybe in his mid to late 20s) invited me and some other coworkers over to his apartment to smoke pot. On the way over, we were listening to some kind of alternative that he didn't like, so I asked him what he did like and he says "I'm into reggae." My coworkers and I got really excited. "You've gotta hear it." I was hoping for something better than "what the hell is this crap?"

how's life, Friday, 8 August 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

your manager otm

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 August 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link


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