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I'll take a thousand and one series of Badults over a single second of the new comedy show commissioned by ITV for fucking DAPPER LAUGHS

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/30/youtube-dapper-laughs-lands-itv2-dating-show

Walter Galt, Thursday, 31 July 2014 10:17 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Could someone more eloquent than me eviscerate Noel Fielding's Luxury Comedy? Grimmest shit I've sat through in years.

everything, Monday, 25 August 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

From the Facebook page of award-winning stand-up comedian, Andrew Lawrence:

Can't help but notice increasingly, a lot 'political' comedians cracking cheap and easy gags about UKIP, to the extent that it's got hack, boring and lazy very quickly.

Particularly too much moronic, liberal back-slapping on panel shows like Mock The Week where aging, balding, fat men, ethnic comedians and women-posing-as-comedians, sit congratulating themselves on how enlightened they are about the fact that UKIP are ridiculous and pathetic.

Yet the Clacton by-election victory and what looks to be a likely victory in the Rochester by-election goes to show that UKIP have their supporters.

Out of touch, smug, superannuated, overpaid TV comics with their cosy lives in their west-London ivory towers taking a supercilious, moralising tone, pandering to the ever-creeping militant political correctness of the BBC with their frankly surreal diversity targets.

The reason UKIP have resonated with voters is because all the other parties are too spineless to tackle the issue of immigration.

Our elected representatives seeded control of the borders of this country to the EU and it's been catastrophic for us all, an unmitigated disaster. Nothing works. Public transport infrastructure is dysfunctional. Hospitals and Schools are dysfunctional. The housing crisis continues to blight our economic potential and destroy the hopes and dreams of a generation. The benefits system is totally out of control. All because there are far,far too many people living here.

For every wonderful, welcome skilled worker our open borders bring into this country, there are also benefit tourists and criminals. For every person that comes here and contributes richly to our culture, there are those that refuse to assimilate, which breeds distrust and has led to a fractured, broken society, where people have lost all sense of community.

Can't say that I'm a UKIP supporter, but I can see why other people are, and I don't disrespect them for it.

What I don't respect is lazy comedians, who market themselves as 'political' but rather than having the courage of their own convictions jump on the militant liberal bandwagon- which has been the source of so much shit stand-up over the years- so that they can get TV work and line their own pockets.

There is a deeply ingrained militant liberal politics at every level of the BBC, despite the fact that it's tax-payer funded and supposed to be neutral. It's a biased organisation and the only sorts of political comedians that are welcome within its corridors are those that reflect it's values.

Essentially when we're watching these 'political' comedians cracking their piss-poor UKIP gags on the BBC, I think we need to be aware they are neither engaged nor passionate about their subject- but money-grubbing charlatans, toadying up to the militant liberals that pay their wages, mirroring their own beliefs back at them in an act of false flattery so that they'll feel smug and validated and keep them on the BBC tax-payer funded gravy-train.

I'm not a political comic, my only ambition for my comedy is to make a room full of people laugh. But there are those that disingenuously market themselves as political comics, not out of any genuine conviction, but in an effort to line their own pockets, and I don't like their hypocrisy.

https://www.facebook.com/andrewlawrencecomedy?

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, 27 October 2014 01:04 (nine years ago) link

'seeded control'

Lawrence's act exploits his range of voices, includes references to his ginger hair and songs performed on an acoustic guitar.

conrad, Monday, 27 October 2014 10:22 (nine years ago) link

Can't say that I'm a UKIP supporter

Ah now, you might as well.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 October 2014 10:37 (nine years ago) link

he lost me at "women-posing-as-comedians"

koogs, Monday, 27 October 2014 11:11 (nine years ago) link

Who hell he?

... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Monday, 27 October 2014 11:36 (nine years ago) link

to be fair maybe it's because he's very very very white

http://www.andrewlawrencecomedy.co.uk/images/Andrew-Lawrence.jpg

conrad, Monday, 27 October 2014 12:15 (nine years ago) link

Someone's butthurt at not making the R4 -> BBC2 jump clearly

I don't know what crazy shit went down for Diwali yesterday, but I've been phoning for a taxi for an hour now, and no-one's answering.

Erm

DG, Monday, 27 October 2014 12:44 (nine years ago) link

For every wonderful, welcome skilled worker our open borders bring into this country, there are also benefit tourists and criminals

EU study on migrants rebuffs 'benefit tourism' claims or

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 October 2014 12:51 (nine years ago) link

Someone's butthurt at not making the R4 -> BBC2 jump clearly

This is so obviously what this is about and how shite would you have to be not to make the jump?

... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Monday, 27 October 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/512927692480868352

‏@andrewlawrence

That Partizan Belgrade 'Only Jews And Pussies' banner was an absolute disgrace last night, how dare they steal the BBC's recruitment slogan.

butt slam mechanics (onimo), Thursday, 30 October 2014 23:28 (nine years ago) link

Alan didn't get his second series then

DG, Thursday, 30 October 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

That shushh! gesture meaning hey I am outrageous and so very controversial, irrepressible etc... . Yeah whatever you little fucking prick.

xelab, Friday, 31 October 2014 00:25 (nine years ago) link

With just one episode to go, Detectorists has been the best BBC sitcom in some time.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 31 October 2014 08:55 (nine years ago) link

Yeah it's brilliant

kinder, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

I'll third that. What a pleasant surprise

Number None, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link

Only watched the first episode and was fairly underwhelmed, but will perhaps soldier on if folk rate it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 00:56 (nine years ago) link

it's highly rateable imo

legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link

should i bother with scot squad?

sktsh, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

That Andrew Lawrence must have been doing a 'bit', right? No one's talked in those kinds of cliches since Alf Garnett.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

Doing a bit of what?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

It's not, in fairness, as funny as describing Frankie Boyle as 'achingly PC'.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

The Shambolic Skeptic • a day ago
Nothing worse than the giggling, smirking, grinning, self-appointed, self-congratulating elitist cabal that call themselves comedy performers.

Who watches these so not funny morons anyway?

NYC if you didn't know was taken over by skeleton hipsters in the past (stevie), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link

Toast of London is back - not quite as funny as I'd remembered but worth a go if you're bored.

legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Friday, 7 November 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

Some people have put two and two together and got pretty much 4 to explain why Dapper Laughs got commissioned:


There is still one question that remains from the fallout of the whole Dapper Laughs debacle. Namely: why on earth would ITV commission such a controversial comedian to make a blatantly sexist show? If you take Dapper out of the equation though, it suddenly starts to make a lot more sense…

And so Dapper Laughs has laughed his last. Two days ago, Daniel O’Reilly was forced onto Newsnight in a sombre turtleneck, first to have Emily Maitlis repeat his punchlines back at him (in the same humourless-yet-hilarious style she once delivered Frankie Boyle’s “I’m so old, my pussy is haunted” line) and then to ceremoniously slit the throat of his ‘creation’, Dapper Laughs.
A lot has been written about the whole Dapper Laughs imbroglio – pieces about free speech and censorship, pieces about comedy and classism, pieces about online bullying, rape culture and the place of satire in the 21st century. All of that has been scrutinised in minute detail by thousands of commentators and there is no reason for us to revisit or rehash it any further.
The only question that still seems to be plaguing people is this: why on earth would ITV commission Dapper Laughs in the first place?
Here’s one possible answer for you.


Dapper Laughs: On The Pull is listed as having been co-devised by two companies. One is Big Minded Limited is a production company headed up by Jolene Ellis and Chris Graves. The other is Proper Moist Limited is a company which lists Daniel O’Reilly as a boardmember. Both Graves and O’Reilly are also listed as executive producers of the show alongside one other man: Dan Baldwin.
Daniel Peter Baldwin is the man listed as the Managing Director of Hungry Bear Media – the company which actually produces the show. (They have since removed any mention of Dapper Laughs on their homepage, but pics are still floating about on their domain.)

If you know his name, it won’t be as Managing Director of Hungry Bear Media. It’ll be for one of his other achievements. To people in the industry, he made his name at ITV as the producer of Ministry Of Mayhem – the Saturday morning successor to SM:TV. To the general public though, Daniel Baldwin is better known for something else.
Being the husband of Holly Willoughby.
Holly Willoughby, in case you’ve never had the pleasure, is one of ITV’s golden geese. She is the presenter of ITV’s flagship daytime magazine programme This Morning; the presenter of ITV’s primetime feel-good family show Surprise, Surprise; and, up until recently, a team captain on ITV’s specialist programming for the feeble-minded, Celebrity Juice.
How does all of this connect to Dapper Laughs? Very simply.
Willoughby and Baldwin don’t just enjoy a close personal relationship, they enjoy a close professional one too. In fact, their careers are almost atomically intertwined. Although Baldwin recently stood down as secretary of Peaches Productions Ltd (Willoughby’s personal production company), he has served as producer or executive producer on a number of her shows – including Ministry Of Mayhem, Holly and Stephen’s Saturday Showdown, Lemon La Vida Loca and Celebrity Juice.
That’s a pretty hefty bargaining chip, especially considering that ITV almost lost Willoughby to the BBC once (when she left Dancing On Ice to host The Voice). They couldn’t risk that happening again. Certainly not over some paltry little internet show that they could commission for a single six-part series, stick in the schedules on Monday at 10:30pm and then quietly shelf citing poor ratings.
The Baldwin-Willoughby alliance wouldn’t have been the only consideration though, obviously. But guess which pair of geniuses are also credited with having come up with the idea for Celebrity Juice? Jolene Ellis and Chris Graves – head honchos at Big Minded Ltd and fellow Dapper devisers.
Celebrity Juice is a massive vehicle for ITV2. It’s the most watched show they’ve ever broadcast – drawing in over 2 million viewers for a single episode at its peak. They do not want to piss off anyone involved in that. Not the people who devised the show, but particularly not producer/creator Dan Baldwin.
It’s easy to see why the commission was a no-brainer. The creative team behind On The Pull already had their feet lodged right in under the table at ITV, so ITV couldn’t very well bounce them out on the street. Dapper’s 500,000 strong Vine following and million fans on Facebook might have sweetened the pot, but this literally was an offer they couldn’t refuse. The potential repercussions were too great.
Even with all the furore and negative publicity the show has caused, it would probably still be worth ITV2 commissioning it if they had their time again, because the alternative could have been much worse for them. It might even be why they were championing the show right up until the bitter end. Sure, they have some temporary egg on their face right now, but the talent – both on-screen and off – remain relatively happy. And, more importantly, remain at ITV.
Of course, we are in no way suggesting that Holly Willoughby had anything to do with the commissioning of Dapper Laughs directly. Not at all. The extent of Holly Willoughby’s involvement probably goes no further than getting her mate (Mike Skinner from The Streets) the job of composing Dapper Laughs’ theme tune.
No, this appears to be Dan Baldwin’s burden to shoulder. And the weirdest part of it all is that Baldwin actually inadvertently prophesied this whole backlash months ago.
Back when the commission was announced, Baldwin stated – in all earnestness – that “I actually believe [Dapper Laughs] is the new Cilla Black.” Oh, how right he turned out to be. For the only person at ITV who is still, to this day, spoken about with greater disdain than Dapper Laughs?
Forever and always, Cilla Black.

PS: The company records for Hungry Bear Media also list the chairman as being one Peter David Jones. The same Peter David Jones who dishes out money on Dragons’ Den and has also appeared as a guest star on… Celebrity Juice.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

Should I know who Dapper Laughs is?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

If you live in the UK and have access to the media, probably.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 16 November 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

I do and I do and I still don't. It's some kind of internet nonsense I assume?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 November 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

Started off on vine, had an incredibly misogynistic programme on ITV, media shit storm ensued, now claims the whole thing was an ironic character piece and has retired the persona. It was all over my FB news feed for a few days.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 16 November 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

Traditional media covered it as well though, there was a Newsnight interview.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 16 November 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Wow, Catastrophe is actually extremely funny.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 30 January 2015 12:01 (nine years ago) link

some of the forced outrageousness of the humour is kind of eye rolly at times but yeah, surprisingly good

Number None, Friday, 30 January 2015 12:08 (nine years ago) link

the unsteadicam annoyed me.

koogs, Friday, 30 January 2015 12:18 (nine years ago) link

Just renewed for a second series and picked up by Amazon Prime in the States...

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 30 January 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link

enjoying it a lot

kinder, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it's funny, which is always good in a comedy.

ailsa, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link

Nice that they've just taken a simple classic set-up then made up some good characters and written some good jokes.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 30 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

She is actually talented, which unusual.

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Friday, 30 January 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

what's unusual?

I know I go on about Pulling, but that was excellent too

kinder, Friday, 30 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

Catastrophe is GREAT GREAT GREAT heavy lollage

a cake of three ingredients (stevie), Friday, 13 February 2015 11:16 (nine years ago) link

(xp) unusual for someone involved in UK/Irish comedy to have actual talent.

Nut-bloody-rageous (Tom D.), Friday, 13 February 2015 11:41 (nine years ago) link

checked out Catastrophe thanks to this thread. Seriously great.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 16 February 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link

Maybe we need a separate thread for Catastrophe? It's really one of the best things on UK TV right now.

I, (dog latin), Monday, 23 February 2015 11:53 (nine years ago) link

Maybe wait until someone has something interesting to say about it?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 February 2015 12:12 (nine years ago) link

there was a particularly affecting moment right at the end of the last episode i saw *SPOILER* the one where they're worried about Downs syndrome. I won't spoil it too much, but it was extremely well done and made me nearly do a little cry.

Broth Viking (dog latin), Monday, 23 February 2015 12:20 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, that was nice. I don't have anything particularly new or insightful to say about Catastrophe other than I wish I'd watched Pulling now.

ailsa, Monday, 23 February 2015 13:00 (nine years ago) link

Really enjoyed the last episode of Catastrophe. Consistently excellent writing throughout, I assume if I enjoyed this I should seek out Pulling ASAP?

ailsa, Thursday, 26 February 2015 00:12 (nine years ago) link


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