songs written in the second-person perspective

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It's like watching quadriplegics having a pillow fight.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 09:25 (nine years ago) link

The Dancing Queen is only 17, so the song's lyrical perspective is an omniscient narrator speaking directly to this young nymphet who can dance, jive and have the time of her life. We are not all Dancing Queens.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 10:37 (nine years ago) link

I guess you can argue that, but the same argument could be made about "Captain Jack" or "Suzanne"... After all, we're not all drug addicts, or in love with someone named Suzanne.

I don't think it's an uncommon storytelling technique to talk of "you" when you really mean "me", usually it's done to add some distance to the narrative. For example, the interpretation of "Dancing Queen" that I've often heard is that the narrator is an older woman talking to her 17-year old self, that's why she's using "you" instead of "me".

Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 11:21 (nine years ago) link

I have no quibble with "Dancing Queen" & suspect those who do of male chauvinism

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

At first I was gonna write something about how exuberant repetition of the "dancing queen" epithet creates the illusion of a character more powerfully than the use of the second person can contain it; but then I realized, Nah, it's just that I'm a manly man & I tune out when the radio calls me a dancing queen, otherwise I'd be getting in a lot of dumb fights with the radio

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

Dylan owns this one. Positively 4th Street is another

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link

You got a lotta nerve to say you are my friend
When I was down, you just stood there grinning

and so on

Number None, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link

As mentioned above, "Suzanne" by Leonard Cohen does this, and I find it extremely irritating. I realized that if read in another voice, it could basically pass for one of Garrison Keillor's monologues on Prairie Home Companion. Try it:

Suzanne takes you down to her place near the river, and you can hear the boats go by, and you spend the night beside her, and you know that she's half crazy, but that's why you want to be there... And she feeds you tea and oranges that come all the way from China, and just when you mean to tell her, that you have no love to give her, then she gets you on her wavelength, and she lets the river answer that you've always been her lover... and you want to travel with her, and you want to travel blind, and you know that she will trust you because she's a nice girl, raised in the Lutheran tradition, just like you were

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

hehehe

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

Gold Panda - "You"

― nxd, Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:38 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link

BAKER STREET, yo

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link

Pink Floyd - Pigs (Three Different Kinds), Shine on You Crazy Diamonds
Frank Sinatra - (Love is) The Tender Trap

ablaeser, Friday, 1 August 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link

Billy Joel - Vienna
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/77983/

nxd, Friday, 1 August 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hold Steady - You Can Make Him Like You

ablaeser, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 02:31 (nine years ago) link

Kleenex - "You"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjQJeE79nDg

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 08:47 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

Bruce Springsteen - Night

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link

More Dylan songs from the same era as others cited above – “She’s Your Lover Now,” “Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window” (maybe others I’m not immediately thinking of...)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link

The Magnetic Fields – “You You You You You”

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:57 (six years ago) link

Napalm Death - You Suffer

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link

Later Dylan – “Tight Connection to My Heart”

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link

Mid-period Dylan: “Up to Me”

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link

With all due respect, I'm not sure those two Bob songs qualify.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link

I noticed that this happens so much in Belle and Sebastian songs.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:10 (six years ago) link

xpost
Why not – or am I misunderstanding the premise?

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link

Hmm maybe I am

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link

also - a lot of Leonard Cohen (like Suzanne, most prominently).

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

was gonna mention every single Pet Shop Boys song but I guess that's been covered

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

lotta Frank Sinatra, including Tell Her You Love Her, Come Blow Your Horn, Love and Marriage, Young at Heart

Josefa, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

xp Being Boring a wonderful exception to the rule tho!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link


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