pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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haha, nice -- it was home to one of the cooler high school bands i've ever heard, that's for sure.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

great read tyler, as usual, he's one dude i've never investigated as deeply as i should.

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

thanks, man. i might even say laughner's slightly overrated (in some circles) but when he's good he's good!

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

the only rap album from this year that deserved a BNM was YG and i bet that gets rectified on the year end list

― le goon (J0rdan S.), 29. juli 2014 17:45 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, looking over the list of above average garage-rock which has been bnm'd, deserve's got nothing to do with it. I agree that YG is the obvious no-brainer, but arguments could have been made for Future, Common or (especially!) Shabazz Palaces, and p4k chose not to and instead focus on slightly rawer versions of Black Keys. It seems like a change in focus for me.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

not really. only a few rap/r&b albums per year get BNM anyway and 2014 has undoubtedly had only a very very select few rap or r&b albums that have brought even core rap fans together, so it's really not a surprise that it's turned out this way.

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

But, like, what's most annoying me is that they don't argua against the rap-albums either. It's 'yeah, this is prob the most sonically interesting rap-music around this year, and the lyrics are great, but come on, that does still not mean it's as good as these here guys playing pavement covers slighly more melodically than usual'

Frederik B, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

you're saying that you're surprised that pitchfork is favoring indie rock

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

agree that there aren't a lot of obvious rap BNMs out there besides YG (Honest doesn't deserve it, imo) but the fact that they skipped over Shabazz Palaces def seems beyond weird and into some 'everyone's gonna love this, everyone's gonna expect 9+/BNM on this, let's pull back a bit' territory

alpine static, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

I count 8 rap-records on the best of 2013. Pusha T, ASAP Rocky, Run the Jewels, Drake, Earl Sweatshirt, Chance the Rapper, Danny Brown and Kanye West. I think it's weird going from a year with 8 favorites, to seven months without one. And you might say that rap usually does better on end of year charts than BNM, which is prob true, but kinda weird as well...

Frederik B, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

They seem to be doing less BNM overall-21 so far this year, 30+ at the same point in 2013.

campreverb, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

music must be getting worse

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

Pitchfork is amazing and vital pt 414141431431

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

everyone knows there are exactly 20 Best Albums released a year

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

i really do love how every six months someone cryingmilhouse.gif's in here about what the completely arbitrary "BNM" tag means for a website with rapidly decreasing influence in the age of Spotify; and then ILXors earnest engage with said argument like having that conversation at all in 2014 isn't as embarrassing as shitting your pants in school

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

but caring about their coverage of skrillex, that's not embarrassing

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

croup he's the schoenberg of our era, didn't you know

balls, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

honestly i feel alienated from pitchfork with their "these young guys remind me of these old guys" bullshit AND rolling stone's lets-move-things-forward EDM coverage

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link

real talk, the message board/twitter/blogger/writer theme of being a 30-or-40-something who hates Skrillex/Bassnectar/"brostep"/millennials and writes funny deadmau5 haha joeks, but engages earnestly with the output of the hold steady and the national and the walkmen is like — congrats, not only are you exactly what you promised yourself you wouldn't be (old), but you're gonna on the wrong side of history

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

If you say so Dad

famous instagram God (waterface), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

B-B-B-B-BUT TEH BROS ARE LIKE THE KIDS THAT BEAT ME UP IN HIGH SCHOOL LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE STONE ROSES

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

Skrillex/Bassnectar/"brostep"/millennials and writes funny deadmau5 haha joeks=I like to dance at shows
the hold steady and the national and the walkmen=I don't really like to dance at shows

famous instagram God (waterface), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

real talk, the message board/twitter/blogger/writer theme of being a 30-or-40-something who hates Skrillex/Bassnectar/"brostep"/millennials and writes funny deadmau5 haha joeks, but engages earnestly with the output of the hold steady and the national and the walkmen is like — congrats, not only are you exactly what you promised yourself you wouldn't be (old), but you're gonna on the wrong side of history

― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:22 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark

who are these people, honestly

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah whiney is young forever and on the right side of history

Baroness is Kurt Cobain wearing a dress to the Headbanger's Ball. Baroness is the night that Alice In Chains had to choose being Mother Love Bone over being Queensrÿche. Baroness is Faith No More photographed in their underpants (but not the Red Hot Chili Peppers photographed in their underpants). Baroness is Madonna giving the Deftones a record contract. Lewis Largent or (Jackie Farry!) would have have loved to introduce Baroness. Baroness are shoo-ins for the Judgment Night 20th anniversary soundtrack (we recommend Big K.R.I.T.). Baroness are The Breakfast Club where Butt-Head and Daria are Emilio Estevez and Ally Sheedy.

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

nope no nostalgic alt-mush for this guy

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Oh go tell us abt how great Blink 182 are again

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

Can't believe I was wrong about the band who got in a horrifying bus accident that sidelined them for a year at the peak of their success

dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

like having that conversation at all in 2014 isn't as embarrassing as shitting your pants in school

― dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:11 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think talking about anything is as embarrassing as shitting your pants

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

dude i'm not judging your ability to gauge their commercial prospects

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

lol that's basically morbs calling out all the supposed apatow groupies. real talk if you like this subset of shitty retro rock bands or that subset of shitty retro rock bands it doesn't put you on the right or wrong side of history (how corny indie fuxxor is that btw), it just means you like shitty retro rock bands.

balls, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

Have you ever actually done it? Surprisingly chill, if done in right circumstances

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

And somehow they've upped their jubilation game without making too many sonic changes since 2005's self-titled debut. For those listening closely, there are fewer of those gimmicky-yet-resourceful "bass bombs," wherein everyone slaps their floppiest string to thunderous effect; there's a little more Vernon Reid–style shreddage, which sounds like a happy modem warming up; and there's a slight pop-punk edge, like the Obsessed signing their '94 Columbia Records contract using Green Day's blue hair dye. Harmonicraft is business as usual for a band in the business of bliss: the good-vibration harmonies of the Beach Boys, the bad-vibration sludge of the Melvins, melodies that set the controls for the sun of the heart. It's important not because Torche have changed but because metal has changed so drastically around them.

^^from review of a band that basically sounds like Foo Fighters of metal

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

thread for when we have become the thing we hate

famous instagram God (waterface), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

oh at their best i'd say torche are downright jawbox-like

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

Whiney in rhetorical inconsistency shocker

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

jawbox owns

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

i'm saying! torche at their best recall a 1994 worth revisiting

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

B-B-B-B-BUT TEH HIPSTERS ARE LIKE THE KIDS THAT THOUGHT THEY WERE BETTER THAN ME IN HIGH SCHOOL LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT FAITH NO MORE

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

(i do like torche frt and also foo fighters are ok most of the time and have some jams)

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

lol "wrong side of history." Like your Jesus Lizard t-shirt will someday be like that time you opposed women's suffrage

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link

it doesn't put you on the right or wrong side of history (how corny indie fuxxor is that btw),

this is so otm can't be said enough

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

i was pretty disappointed by recess after the eps. posting from dustbin of history atm

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

it's sad you never saw kerensky that happy again

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

is that a groundbreaking brostep act

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

ug the hipster kids that work at the deli downstairs kinda dress like that :/

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link

Talking about pitchfork and EDM makes me remember this review: http://archive.today/ZUuJI#selection-561.1-565.336

Frederik B, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

man it would warm my heart to click on a new pitchfork review and be faced with a short-story-as-review rather than introductory links and "it has been five years since blah blah..."

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

Look at Pork records, a great little label from England that continues to plug away in obscurity while Moby's Play dominates the clubs and the charts. And how about Warp? It's like comparing primitive, neaderthal stone carvings to the Sistine Chapel.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link

4 out of the 5 review descriptions on the front page refer to how many years its been since...

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

i mean i'm in no position to throw stones when it comes to pondering how many times the earth has circled the sun since a song dropped, but man change it up

da croupier, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link


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