pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Imagine Zach Braff’s face when you steal his burrito

in one of Britt Daniels' cargo shorts pockets is a interdimensional portal back to Austin, through which he rides on a burrito

the one place i ever saw britt daniel was in the pearl district in portland buying truffles at a boutique chocolate place called "moonstruck", no hirschberg

burritos, truffles, he's a gourmand, that Britt

burritos, truffles in my palm HANH
be like he's a gourmand HANH

lmao i've seen Britt Daniels irl and he was eating a burrito

Ha I was thinking

the one place i ever saw britt daniel was in the pearl district in portland buying truffles at a boutique chocolate place called "moonstruck", no hirschberg

this place has insanely good milkshakes btw

lol at the idea that burning your bridges with Zach Braff is a risky move. Weird to see another article way overstating the importance of that dude for indie music in 2014.

i've seen scrubs a few times -- if you cross braff, he'll prank you in a way that is hilarious but will also make you *think*

hospital television shows

greenday time of your life E.R. scene

braff's entire career is just trying to make that scene over and over

I kinda dug Scrubs tbh

if they've completely giving up on the idea of innovation being anything to be aplauded.

I hope so. "innovation" is a false god

"innovation" may be false, but what about innovation?

Britt Daniel sneaks a sharp splinter of film criticism into one of the tough, terse, personal songs that Spoon is so known for:

lol is this really what he's "known for", I have never had more than the barest glimmer of understanding of what any of his songs are about beyond the most obvious (Sister Jack etc)

innovation is more about technology, not so much about aesthetics. I don't really care about technology and it's false sense of progress. music is not about progress.

wait, what is false about the progress in say medical technology?

tons of things that were marketed as progress courtesy of technology have turned out to be detrimental - the idea that because something is new it is better than what came before (the very essence of the concept of progress) is, how you say, problematic

ah, so you meant 'technology and its sometimes false sense of progress'

I love Spoon and I have no idea what their songs are "about," Sister Jack included, this is part of the appeal tbh

i'm pretty sure i know what fitted shirt is about

rolling burrito with a spoon thread

tons of things that were marketed as progress courtesy of technology have turned out to be detrimental - the idea that because something is new it is better than what came before (the very essence of the concept of progress) is, how you say, problematic

― Οὖτις, 29. juli 2014 01:32 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nah, it's the way art develops. Otherwise you end up with fucking Fleet Foxes as album of the year. And really, the concept is that something that is new is all things considered better than something we have heard a thousand times before.

(for some reason I listened to Fleet Foxes the other day. christ it's awful. this thread should prob have been closed back then)

Well the most forward-thinking music right now is probably festival EDM/dubstep, which they don't cover except sneeringly:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19139-skrillex-recess/

probably cuz it's built on ideas that have been regurgitated so many times (and weren't that great the first time around) that even pfork can tell the treads worn off the tires.

much unlike the national and fleet foxes

yeah pfork can't tell w/ them or other civil war reenactors - fucked up, parquet courts, cloud nothings, whatever

Well the most forward-thinking music right now is probably festival EDM/dubstep, which they don't cover except sneeringly:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19139-skrillex-recess/
--dilligaf escape plan (Whiney G. Weingarten)

dawg

is Dawg the guy who presses 'play' on his album while wearing a giant dog head that shoots lasers

Yeah, Recess is kinda one of my favorite albums this year. So fun. But really, the 'electronic' albums that have been bnm'd is Todd Terje and Brian Eno & Karl Hyde. And I like the Terje-thing, but it's hardly a 'Recess'.

seen a bunch of EDM shows this year and they have thrilling moments for sure but a lot of the big artists aren't good DJs and anyway the appeal of a lot of EDM is that it's new headbanging music which isn't exactly my idea of "forward thinking"

Though, yeah, a lot is being repurposed from jungle and UK dancehall and w/e, but it's the only music not interested in the sounds/textures/rhythms of the past (see "alls fair in love and brostep") which is definitely more forward thinking than Ought/Parquet Courts doing Pavement's version of the Fall or w/e

a lot of "forward thinking" music is inaccessible and bad, too

anyway by pitchfork's count the best four albums of the last two years have been a a compton rapper's concept album, a fashion designer's political noise rap record, a gay R&B singer's magnum opus and one incredible album (vampire weekend) that is a reminder that judging music on what is the most "forward thinking" is perhaps not the truest rubric, so i think they're doing ok

no, jordan, you're totally rhttp://i.imgur.com/J2IFLVK.png

Tuff Phost

BOOM

What was that incredible album again?

The Hairy Unicorns

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19685-the-unicorns-who-will-cut-our-hair-when-were-gone/

"vintage synthesizers set on “fart”

Guys guys youre both beautiful

stay gold ponyboys

why are mom and dad fighting

anyway by pitchfork's count the best four albums of the last two years have been a a compton rapper's concept album, a fashion designer's political noise rap record, a gay R&B singer's magnum opus and one incredible album (vampire weekend) that is a reminder that judging music on what is the most "forward thinking" is perhaps not the truest rubric, so i think they're doing ok

― le goon (J0rdan S.), 29. juli 2014 07:19 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, that's right (and their 2010 favorite was rap as well), which makes it even more weird that no raprecord has been bnm'd. Like, what happened this year? How come that other compton rapper's concept album, this time with innovative beats, couldn't even get an 8.5?

Also, I'd claim that tracks like Ya Hey is pretty 'forward thinking' for an indie record in it's incorporation of manipulated voices. Vampire Weekend are hardly Mac Demarco. I'd also say the most innovative liveshows I've seen these last few years has been loop-indie like tune-yards and owen pallett. And again, no dice this year.

makes it even more weird that no raprecord has been bnm'd

the only rap album from this year that deserved a BNM was YG and i bet that gets rectified on the year end list

Nah, it's the way art develops. Otherwise you end up with fucking Fleet Foxes as album of the year. And really, the concept is that something that is new is all things considered better than something we have heard a thousand times before.

this is actually not the way art develops. the process is closer to a constant repurposing of old material/old techniques via new technology, and it isn't a linear progression.

xp

a compton rapper's concept album, a fashion designer's political noise rap record, a gay R&B singer's magnum opus and one incredible album (vampire weekend)

i know jordan's not some corny indie fuxxor but this just reads so funny. all these descriptors for the other albums plus one great album . "there was a rap album, another rap album, an r&b album, and one incredible album"

also who's the "we" in that last sentence, not everybody has heard the same things a thousand times before, especially young people, which are the core of pop music's audience.

xxp

hey, i have an awesome dollar bin column in the new issue of The Pitchfork Review. which is the fancy print magazine Pitchfork is putting out. you should buy it! (also has a 7-inch with local - local to me - bands king tuff and the lentils! go brattleboro!)

your pal, scott :)