Is this anti-semitism?

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declare the idf the most honest and accurate source of what's going on in the conflict, and that he didn't say hamas posting lies about israel on facebook was worthy of a military response,

these are misrepresentations/innacurate (unless I missed some posts but I don't think I did)

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link

in other news my man, Wallace Shawn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxDYiBls99w

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

it's all inaccuracies. i never claimed i don't have any sympathies w/ israel, i don't "parrot" likud propaganda, i never said the idf is the most honest and accurate source of what's going on (i did suggest that in past conflicts their fatality numbers have turned out to be closest to reality after the war), i never said that hamas posting lies about israel on fb was worthy of a military response (??? who the fuck knows where balls' got this one from)

Mordy, Monday, 28 July 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

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― Mordy

Obviously we won't know anything for sure probably for months until all the facts come out. This is worth looking at:

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2014/07/half-of-dead-in-gaza-are-terrorists.html#.U9KbsBZ1ZfM

As well as this from Cast Lead in 2009:
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_print=1&x_context=7&x_issue=76&x_article=1952

― Mordy, Friday, July 25, 2014 2:04 PM (3 days ago)

it turned out that in 2009 idf had the most accurate numbers after the conflict had ended

― Mordy, Sunday, July 27, 2014 2:41 PM (Yesterday)

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link

I think it's bizarre to equate being pro-Mussolini with being pro-Israel, inasmuch as Mussolini was literally on the opposite side of a war with us.

'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Monday, 28 July 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

"i did suggest that in past conflicts their fatality numbers have turned out to be closest to reality after the war" < wow! i said what i said i said. good job, balls.

Mordy, Monday, 28 July 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

now maybe find me this one? "that he didn't say hamas posting lies about israel on facebook was worthy of a military response"

Mordy, Monday, 28 July 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link

rolling mena thread, find it yrself

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

gfy :)

Mordy, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

btw that post where you said what you said you said was when someone asked you if you really thought idf was the most accurate source of information on the conflict (after posting idf propaganda about how actually all those ppl they're killing? terrorists. you can tell cuz they're palestinian). doesn't read like a denial to me!

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

gotcha

Mordy, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

i mean maybe it's batshit or self evidently anti-semitic but i'd consider posting a tweet from idf's twitter account as a rebuttal to a claim that they're killing children parroting idf.

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

ok cool

Mordy, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

i mean if i'm distracting you from getting back to pretending some israeli bank is the real victim here when you think about it i do apologize.

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR7EAdPUqvQ

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

great pinky showed up

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

My bad, I meant that for the Minecraft thread.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

In hopefully less incendiary anti-Semitism news, we ate at a sandwich shop in Colorado that, along with the usual, served a pastrami and cheese sandwich called the Jewish. Which is weird on several different levels.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

"could you make mine extra-Jewy please"

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

Is it weird to call a sub "The Italian"?

'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Monday, 28 July 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link

ayyyyy! boshk!

love is how's life tonight (how's life), Monday, 28 July 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

But an Italian sub is called that because it was made popular by Italian immigrants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_sandwich). The Jewish (which does not exist, as such, but let's go with the name), not so much. Not least because it is brazenly not Kosher.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 July 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

eating a Jewish person breaks kosher anyway tbf

Serious Men raised by the Issues Movement (darraghmac), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

I was trying to think of other situations where the descriptive adjective (Jewish) is not the same as the identifying noun (Jew) but couldn't think of any

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link

Jew eat?

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link

tbf if I saw a sandwich called The Jew I would probably be a little freaked out

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link

The Jewish is just comically inept

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link

I had typed eating a Jew but that sounded coarse and idk not good then I changed it to eating a Jewish person and fuck me if it didn't sound delicious

Serious Men raised by the Issues Movement (darraghmac), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

that the case w/ most nationalities or ethnicities that don't end in 'n' right? arabic vs arab, french vs frenchman, white vs whitey. i've heard use of 'blacks' as a noun but in the singular it's pretty uncommon. seems like in english though overwhelmingly the descriptive adjective and the identifying noun both end in 'n' and are the same. i'm trying to think of examples where they aren't the same or conversely whey they (or more accurately the descriptive) don't end in 'n' and they are the same.

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link

tom green's bum was on the Swede, not the Swedish

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link

Mordy doesn't parrot propaganda, when he makes points he leaves spaces for disagreement and implies question marks all over (as far as I can see anyway, don't know if you would agree Mordy?) which is so vastly better than 99% of what yr gonna get in online chat about the Israel Palestine conflict between members of the public

cardamon, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

Could we also basically remember that whatever we all think of each other, no-one on this thread is actually doing the things, we're all just commentating on the things

cardamon, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

just saw a harrowing video of three guys emerging from a tunnel carrying guns

thank goodness there are children being bombed in response

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

hi

card (am0n), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link

that the same video in which they emerged to kill a soldier?

Serious Men raised by the Issues Movement (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

Killing soldiers? Isn't that a war crime?

brimming with misplaced confidence (Phil D.), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

xxp card (am0n) otm

cardamon, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link

you got me man I'm in here to cheer on the deaths of innocents too, hurrah for ilx

Serious Men raised by the Issues Movement (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

maybe? i didn't see the end. the narrator said they went on to attack a military installation of some kind. hopefully there wasn't a school in the way!

xpost lol

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

dear israel: get a fucking grip on yourself

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

yeah saw the same clip, dead soldier ensues, doubtless used as justification for another day of slaughter to rival the images of dead and wounded Palestinian families that preceded it, doubtless to be used as justification for etc and just fuck it for a heartbreaking mess obv.

Serious Men raised by the Issues Movement (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/israel-goes-alone-2

To some extent, such sentiments are a reflex action from a nation at war, albeit a limited war in which the vast majority of casualties are on the other side. But the criticisms of Obama also represent something deeper and more lasting: an increasingly assertive Israel that views itself as justified in its actions, besieged by international critics, and capable of following its own course without having to seek approval.

even chait is growing uncomfortable

k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 July 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link

Chait OTM. And the article he refers to, The Explosive, Inside Story of How John Kerry Built an Israel-Palestine Peace Plan—and Watched It Crumble is a great read, and I would recommend it to anyone who is somewhat interested in the conflict.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link

is this srsly the only thread we have about the current gaza insanity?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 August 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link

Rolling MENA 2014

Merdeyeux, Monday, 4 August 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

ahhhhh thx

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 09:41 (nine years ago) link

Awesome. I've got nominally Jewish family in Australia. Let's see if this makes them and their little kids feel more or less Jewish.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

hmm yes i think that is indeed anti-semitism

write 500 words of song (sleepingbag), Thursday, 7 August 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link


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