best blockbuster multi-movie franchise of the 2000's

sorry fred i thought you already knew about the popularity of the films and didn't need me to tell you that marvel and fox's have done really well

yeah, obviously i'm not calling marvel's plans insane. they have functioned quite well. and were paced very carefully, remember they made iron man 2 before they made cap and thor. fox's fantastic four plans are insane. their x-men are mainly weird because they still seem to hinge on hugh jackman. look at other studio-verses like the thought up universal-monster-verse, the star wars-verse, and apparantly the godzilla-verse, and i don't think sony stands out.

also, sidenote: 'maybe they shoulda just made a really good movie about two-face and the riddler and mr freeze and the mad hatter thinking up some non-bat-related hijinks' They are making this tv-show. But that's neither here nor there.

fox has made modestly (for a super-hero movie) budgeted fantastic four flicks. the first did very well. the second underperformed. they waited a couple years and are now doing a "grounded" (which i assume means cheaper) reboot with some very buzzed about young actors. I don't see what's insane about that at all.

it's not like they announced a dr doom movie or anything

they've planned a sequel for 2017 already.

did you know they penciled in a hangover II movie before the first one came out? They even optioned a script for Taxi 2 before that Fallon/Latifah vehicle came out. These days you call dibs on dates you'll want way in advance.

now if they planned Dr Doom and Fin Fang Foom's Bogus Journey for 2017 then i'd be like yeah thats crazy

come on. it's a year before the reboot is out, and the first two hardly set the world on fire. 2017 is the same timeframe that marvel has used to sketch in a guardians of the galaxy sequel this week, and that film has been hyped for months. fox could have just called dips anyway on an unspecified project, it's not like an ff-sequel will scare anyone anyhow, until the first film proves it has legs.

you're really grasping at straws to not admit that you're basically just making fun of the idea of a venom movie, which btw has been talked about for years. which, i mean, be my guest, make fun of sony all you want. please be more cruel. but don't pretend we're actually having a discussion about studio-strategies any more.

you're really grasping at straws to not admit that you're basically just making fun of the idea of a venom movie, which btw has been talked about for years.

a venom movie was announced the same time they announced sinister six

http://screenrant.com/venom-movie-amazing-spider-man-sinister-six-sony/

disney - "let's create a bunch of tentpole hero franchises that can be combined if popular and dispatched if not (hypothetically, not that we know what a flop looks like)" . Not crazy.

fox - "let's make movies about a massive team of heroes that we keep building, with spin-offs for the biggest individual heroes (channing tatum's gonna play gambit!). oh and lets make some mid-level hero films with this other franchise we have". not crazy.

dc - "let's make a movie where our two biggest heroes fight and then a bunch of movies about our other heroes like marvel did after all man of steel was totally our iron man." ok, we're getting kinda nuts.

sony - "let's make all the spider-man movies we can and then some movies where we see what spidey's enemies do when spidey isn't around." the wackiest!

basically i'd say sony is acting in comparison to fox the way wb is acting in comparison to marvel, where they don't have the patience to build a world more slowly and with more care.

i will admit universal's monster-verse dreams really take the cake and disney's star wars look pretty ambitious/reckless, but then who can blame them for thinking the star wars audience will forgive slapdash crap and spinoffs

and with sony putting on the brakes if dc confirms that slate they'll definitely look like the biggest nuts of the pack

also lol at "you're grasping at straws" from the guy who used get him to the greek as precedent for a rogue's gallery movie

...the whole point of this Sony crap is just to retain the rights, isn't it? it's not like either Spider-Man movie didn't profit. And they don't get stuck in a crazy rush to produce like they did when Raimi's Spider-Man 4 fell apart.

Rights primarily but sony's had a lot of high profile flops lately (if you want to use "abysmal" to describe a Sony films profits check out White House down, after earth and Pompeii) so the whole A Spidey Film Every Two Years was also to tell themselves they had a cash cow. Which they do, but if Spidey 5 does worse than Spidey 4 what can they expect from People Who Don't Like Spidey and Photonegative Of Spidey.

Wb superhero h

woops, iphone slip

what i was saying is WB's anxious horniness for super-franchises could also be chalked up to the fact that Harry Potter's gone and otherwise they tend to spend hundred of millions on movies like Transcendence and Jack The Giant Slayer

ain't nobody but the fanboys going to a Venom movie and considering how much they hated the second flick in the new series....

You can always trick regular folk into seeing comic book movies, you just have to disguise it. See: Wanted, Chronicle (in spirit).

Haha good luck disguising a venom movie

'aww WTF they liiiiiied to us'

I honestly don't think it would be too hard, "angsty youngster gets infected by space goo, becomes monster" isn't that different from many horror films

Ok i know asm2 underperformed but I doubt they're going to make it a horror movie about a guy turned into a monster by black goo and have no Spidey connection

I mean if they just wanted to make a horror movie I doubt they'd use a marvel brand villain to do it

"My stars the new spider-man movie only made 700m"

"Looks like we'll have to be a little...tricky with venom, get people to think they're seeing a horror movie."

i bet you that conversation really happened

Not if the execs know how a horror movie grosses compared to anything Spidey related