Is this anti-semitism?

it turned out that in 2009 idf had the most accurate numbers after the conflict had ended

Surely you understand that both IDF and Hamas are the sources least to be trusted while still in this conflict. It's all spin and propaganda, from both sides.

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Israel Discount Bank on 5th Ave. NYC

that is not good

fuck

hey if israel didn't keep bombing gaza people wouldn't need to keep desecrating jewish businesses #seehowthisworks

the whole thing is super hard for me to take. mixed in with all the airline crashes the scale of senseless suffering in the news is at psychically insupportable levels

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, July 25, 2014 10:23 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

For what it's worth, and I don't mean to be overly dramatic about this, especially while sitting safely in the United States, but I have been in pretty much constant serious psychic distress over this for all of my waking hours for the past several days. I guess it's a combination of sadness at the loss of life, guilt at feeling like I am somehow associated with the conflict, fear of retributive antisemitism, and dissonance between my opposition to the Israeli military campaign combined with my inability to come up with a good answer to people I know who say that they or their relatives live under constant stress and fear from rockets (regardless of whether they are ultimately ineffective, it's still constant sheltering, sirens, and the occasional explosion), and this includes members of my own family by marriage who I have found warm and wonderful people and yet are capable of blindness and sometimes even hate that shocks me.

― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Friday, July 25, 2014 10:46 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. i don't have a coherent response to this other than just feeling sad and overwhelmed. glad you called out "while sitting safely in the United States" because i am aware of that for sure. but yea it's this conflict and all the other suffering going on in the world right now just seems really heavy. the central american kids at the border. syria. ukraine. plus all the other conflicts and suffering and death that i'm not even really clued into. i wish i could be somebody who has a self-righteous position and a argument that i could confidently make to comment on any number of these things. not to simply possess knowledge of it but to be able to emotionally comprehend and make sense of it. but that's kind of impossible. how can you make sense of it? overall i just feel helpless because i can't do anything to change it and i also don't even really understand it. my wife and i have been talking about all this stuff a lot and she'll ask a question about the nature of one of these conflicts or some historical aspect and 97% of the time i just have to say "you know, i don't really know, i am so uneducated about this."

hey if israel didn't keep bombing gaza people wouldn't need to keep desecrating jewish businesses #seehowthisworks

#idontseehowthatworks - you're trying to draw an equivalency to: if Hamas didn't keep firing rockets Israel wouldn't need to return fire? bc i'm pretty sure the Israel Discount Bank in NYC didn't throw any blood on pro-palestinian protestors.

pretty sure tracer hand was satirising dumb knee jerk internet comments? #atleastihopeso

oh, i hope so

poe's law

i'm saying that dumbass "he started it" justifications for indefensible behavior should be beneath adult human beings in 2014

wow

blowinminds.jpg

sorry u disagree

what's wrong with throwing blood on the Israel Discount Bank anyway? Seems pretty on-point. 'Desecrating Jewish Businesses' lol

xp hey i think it's great. we need more trenchant internet-comment level posts on ilx

idgi

"bombing kids? i learned it from watching u dad" - israel aka usa jr.

While I don't condone that kind of behavior, it seems pretty clear to me that they targeted an Israeli business, not just a "Jewish" business, and also it's not like they targeted some Israeli falafel stand, they targeted one of the largest Israeli banks, and I would not be surprised if there is some specific tie between that bank and, e.g., the occupation or the financing of settlements.

^^^this

Yeah but it's also a form of desecration that's explicitly anti-semitic, right? Like this is a step above breaking windows

a lot of assumptions about intentions there

While I don't condone that kind of behavior, it seems pretty clear to me that they targeted an Israeli business, not just a "Jewish" business

Phew, what a relief. Though next time they should probably use the fake blood to write a note, so that we all can better understand intent.

http://ourtour.co.uk/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/LOB-Graffiti.jpg

Everything I know about blood libel I learned from ilx tbh. I don't have a feeling for how widely that slur is actually known or used outside of extreme anti-Semitic conspiracy circles.

tbf to josh very few of the children his guys have deliberately targeted and killed died from bleeding out, most of them were burnt alive. these protesters probably could've avoided any ambiguity by using something instead of fake blood. ash maybe.

"His guys?" Fuck you.

I thought a blood libel was when you criticize Sarah Palin

have fun on yr moral high ground you've built gloating over the bodies of dead muslim children there josh, i always knew you were a moron but it wasn't until the past few weeks i realized what a bigot you are

Phew, what a relief. Though next time they should probably use the fake blood to write a note, so that we all can better understand intent.

The Israel Discount Bank has well-known ties to the settlements. The photo above isn't of some overnight vandalism - it's the result of a sit-in protest by well-meaning types in which several people got arrested. They were wearing t-shirts, handing out leaflets, shouting etc in public(video). Have no idea if any of the people doing the protests are anti-semitic - wouldn't be surprised if some kind of are - but it was a different type of thing than you'd think just looking at that picture.

didn't know banks are now on par w/ mosques n synagogues

have we tried piping in 'kisses for breakfast' at one of these cease-fire talks?

hmmmm...if the idea is to torture them, we could go with this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/NsfqWopiaAw%26fs=1%26hl=en

xpost Dude (I assume), I don't play for a team in this game. If I had any power I wouldn't want anyone to die in this stupid, never ending conflict, except Hamas. That may make me a moron, but not a bigot. I apologize for losing my temper, but I'm the farthest from a staunch, blind supporter of Israel.

I wouldn't want anyone to die in this stupid, never ending conflict, except Hamas

lol

if we can just take out that hamas guy

If they repudiated their explicitly violent, explicitly anti-Semitic charter, that's cool with me as an alternative.

i always felt like the balls persona was just missing a little bit more morbsian batshittery so i'm glad he has decided to take it up a notch

'you don't have to be batshit to find deliberately targeting and killing women and children repugnant - but it helps!'

If they repudiated their explicitly violent, explicitly anti-Semitic charter

gosh I wonder if there's any kind of equivalent demand that could be made of the Israeli gov't

i always find reasonable those ppl who shout 'baby-killer' at ppl they disagree w/

what if the people you disagree w are baby-killers

gosh I wonder if there's any kind of equivalent demand that could be made of the Israeli gov't

I get what you mean, I think/hope, but there is no Israeli equivalent to the Hamas charter, unless it is ultra-top conspiracy theory take over the world tin-hat secret.

Arabs are semites, too....just sayin'

multiple xxxxpost

there's a boatload of policies that are explicitly anti-Palestinian that the Israeli gov't will never repudiate

lol mordy you were explicitly defending baby killing as something that routinely happened during war throughout history so what's the big deal w/ israel doing it just a few weeks ago. for someone who can't stand them tv dinners you sure do eat enough of them motherfuckers.

i gotta assume you're just trolling bc you're so incoherent to me i otherwise have to believe you've had an aneurysm

they don't go as far as explicitly endorsing the mass murder of Palestinians but they pretty much ensure that Palestinians will never have a functional country/government/polity

fwiw I am aware of all the batshit stuff in the Hamas charter (those evil Rotary Clubs must be stopped!)

xp

irl lol @ "Bob George" / balls

(& otm)