Wes Anderson's The Grand Budapest Hotel

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I was pretty into this! Way sillier than anything else he's done and the violence and swearing helped counteract the affectedness. Fiennes was great and I laughed a lot.

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 24 July 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

More than anything, it suggests the way one might read "sophisticated, adult" novels as a precocious adolescent, enthralled by the evocation of a complex world unknown, but unable to fully grasp the deeper resonances in play. Or perhaps it's just elegantly offhand, could call it either way.

Isn't GBH literally a depiction of this? The framing device is a young girl reading the author's memoir, in what appeared to be a pretty drab present-day cemetery, and for me that crucial to contextualizing the fantastical mannered outlandishness of it all, that what was depicted was at least three levels removed from reality, nested in a series of imagined images of the past: present day reader envisioning 1985-era author recounting a story 1965-era author heard from 1965-era Zero based on the experiences of 1930s-era Zero (and I guess you could say parts of the story Zero didn't even experience but heard only secondhand from Gustave). Each era is accordingly depicted a bit more vivid/fanciful than the last, all the romanticized projections of an adolescent mind seeking escapist refuge in tall(ish) tales from a bygone era.

anonanon, Thursday, 31 July 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link

"you FUCKERS"

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 August 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

the film is set in a Ruritania/Syldavia/Freedonia, a pastiche of a pastiche of Europe.

... Moldavia

http://www.bridalwave.tv/soap-weddings/dynasty-royal-wedding.jpg

The World's Strangest Man 2014 (Tom D.), Friday, 2 January 2015 10:25 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"select cities" theatrical rerelease tomw

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 January 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link

if this wins the oscar i'll eat my hat, and love it.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 16 January 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

Unused storyboard from GBH:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HQKB2qtahCs/UDJAa0G7WWI/AAAAAAAACa8/Bd0h5r4quYE/s320/003.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

i liked this p well, has great timing & the editing is obv superb…it never seems to get old 2 me for heady and verbose characters & scenes to then include base anger and/or profanity coming a bit from left field -ie 'look at these assholes' from darjeeling ltd idk i always lol

johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link

they made a movie about brodie

― velko, Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:11 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol @ this btw

johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

if theres anyone i think would be good at silent movies, or at least someone who id like to see make modern silents, just so i didnt have to endure the terrible, self consciously WACKY performances/dialogue, its wes anderson.

was weirdly thinking about GBH recently before all the nominations (it should win for set design, cinematography, costume and makeup), and thinking that ralph fiennes should actually win an award for getting some actual humanity and warmth in there.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 18 January 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

hope this doesnt win for best writing btw.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 18 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I didn't care for this really but even I think Fiennes was great

Simon H., Sunday, 18 January 2015 22:56 (nine years ago) link

this is a wes anderson movie ok so it could have been an enjoyable movie from setting and plot and cast even but for the relentlessness of everything

the bits with obvious miniatures e.g. cable cars or some of the fake-looking and presumably fake interiors e.g. tilda's gaff looked less cutesily crude than cheap and tossed off

conrad, Monday, 19 January 2015 11:55 (nine years ago) link

(xp) otm.

Unfortunately at was at my mother's house when I saw this film and so had my mother scowling (comically) at the screen and saying, "What's this supposed to be about?" or similar before eventually dozing off.

Peas Be Upon Ham (Tom D.), Monday, 19 January 2015 12:08 (nine years ago) link

the bits with obvious miniatures e.g. cable cars or some of the fake-looking and presumably fake interiors e.g. tilda's gaff looked less cutesily crude than cheap and tossed off

wildly disagree with this

making the artifice adorable

bob seger's silver bullet gland (sic), Monday, 19 January 2015 12:39 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

Pablo Fernández Eyre has performed a simple editing trick, and by doing so has revealed a beautiful facet to the filmmaking of Wes Anderson. By mirroring the image on one side of the screen, either horizontally or vertically, Eyre has underscored just how organized Anderson is in his shots, creating beautiful images that conform to a type of symmetry and converge at a negative space in the central point of the screen.

http://www.avclub.com/article/wes-andersonmirror-effects-shows-man-complete-cont-225551

Pretty amazing that you can take an image, mirror it, and it will be symmetrical.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 20 September 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

I finally saw this. I thought it was pretty enjoyable, although maybe the first half was better. What really makes me this for me is the attention to detail and how fully imagined the milieu is. Just one example: the moment when the Dafoe character licks the frosting from the prison food tray and says "Mendls". Anderson is a good writer (in his idiosyncratic way), and a great set designer. You feel like he can map the inside of his head and project it onto a screen, an uncommon gift. I think Fiennes is mostly what lifts this above "Moonrise" for me. That was really missing the presence of a charismatic lead. It's partly the fact that Fiennes seems slightly out of place in the miniature-snowglobe Anderson milieu that makes him interesting to watch - like you see him trying to figure out how broadly to play some of the sillier scenes, or maybe even bridling imperceptibly at some of the crude dialogue at points - it's almost like a breath of adult atmosphere seeps through a tiny crack in the snowglobe, but not enough to spoil the fantasy.

o. nate, Monday, 9 January 2017 04:04 (seven years ago) link

I bailed on this the first time, felt almost intolerably twee & annoying.

I rewatched it yesterday, all the way through & i really enjoyed it. And was surprised to find that maybe it's my new favorite of his. I feels like it pulls all of his talents together in a meaningful way. The ending serves the whole story, makes every choice & all of the comedy so much more meaningful. I liked the layers of narration & layers of flashback, but I mostly was swept away by the hotel scenes, and those long lens shots where it feels like you could walk right through the screen into the movie, the same feeling I get whenever I watch the Shining. And when Goldblum is walking down the path towards the museum getting smaller & smaller & the camera just stays put...ugh! love it.
Fiennes was excellent

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 January 2017 05:10 (seven years ago) link

i also liked this much better on a second viewing

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 9 January 2017 05:23 (seven years ago) link

i already want to see it again. Mr Veg loved Rushmore but hasnt liked much since Life Aquatic, i am gonna try to get him to try this

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 January 2017 05:30 (seven years ago) link

I bailed on this the first time, felt almost intolerably twee & annoying.

I stuck with this but I did feel it was overly twee. Maybe I should give this another go.

An Alan Bennett Joint (Michael B), Monday, 9 January 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link

at this point calling WA twee is like calling Kubrick cold

talk to the hand

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2017 13:06 (seven years ago) link

Have seen this twice and I mostly really like it !!

the pinefox, Monday, 9 January 2017 13:14 (seven years ago) link

at this point calling WA twee is like calling Kubrick cold

talk to the hand

yeah, and people who criticize because they consider he always does the same thing, he's locked in his own little dolls world, etc.
It's like they love "Rushmore" (or "Bottle Rocket" for some extremists !) and then consider it's cool to say the rest is shit/samey.
the "the first album is their only good album" syndrome.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 9 January 2017 14:15 (seven years ago) link

Only Moonrise and Fantastic are good. Twee films work best with kids and animation. How does that rank on the list of shitty arguments?

Frederik B, Monday, 9 January 2017 14:21 (seven years ago) link

as for TGBH, I like the contrast between the nice little world of the hotel and the darkness all around (prison, mountain, train...).
It's pretty violent (the fingers !) and desperate (the casualties of fascism, sickness and then communism/capitalism, as the hotel turns into an almost abandoned ruin no one cares about).
it's also quite impressive the level of aesthetic and visual control he reaches. of course, that's been one of his strength since the beginning but the evolution is remarkable (the experience of MrFox has certainly helped).
I think his best work is still ahead of him.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 9 January 2017 14:31 (seven years ago) link

"you FUCKERS"

― Οὖτις, Friday, August 1, 2014 9:00 AM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 January 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

it's kinda strange to call a film largely about fascism where several characters are killed "twee."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 January 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link

Nazis didn't wear turquoise and pink?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 January 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Rohm probably did

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 January 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

(sorry, that's a terrible joek)

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 January 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

"...along with whatever we haven't spent on whores and whiskey."

"I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 06:22 (seven years ago) link

this has just started on telly and on rewatch of the first twenty mins i think we ought to declare it the greatest movie ever made in mature retrospect

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

vg otm a week ago basically

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link

:D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link

it's also quite impressive the level of aesthetic and visual control he reaches. of course, that's been one of his strength since the beginning but the evolution is remarkable (the experience of MrFox has certainly helped).

otm. never liked this guy outside of some bits in rushmore but liked fantastic mr fox a lot and then was hugely impressed by this one, it's totalized. like if nabokov made a movie (w any irritations that might imply). the 20c-nesting-doll structure of the (literal) framing is rly sad and sweet, my favorite thing he's done w his storybook fetish. fiennes' performance is p much sublime. anyway

"you FUCKERS"

― Οὖτις, Friday, August 1, 2014 6:00 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otmfm

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm always a sucker for framing narratives. I guess three-levels of framing is about as much as you can do, before the effect starts to wear off. This was sort of what happened with Calvino's "If on a Winter's Night a Traveler", which is kind of like if someone decided to write a novel that was all frames, like peeling layers of an onion. After you've made it through the first few frames, it becomes a bit repetitious.

o. nate, Monday, 23 January 2017 01:40 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

"you FUCKERS"

― Οὖτις, Friday, August 1, 2014 6:00 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otmfm

― difficult listening hour, Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:30 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 13 August 2017 05:09 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

As part of the acting and production design module this week in my film class, I showed it. First, the class' enthusiastic response -- when they didn't know who Edward Norton, Ralph Fiennes, Bill Murray, etc were -- astounded me after two periods when Playtime and Touch of Evil inspired lukewarm responses. Then it astounded me. Anderson's grasp of what each scene needed cinematographically blew me away, and the sheer pace of the thing.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

I hadn't watched it since 2014.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

And was surprised to find that maybe it's my new favorite of his. I feels like it pulls all of his talents together in a meaningful way

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:32 (four years ago) link

I retract everything I said upthread, by the way, especially when my class made the connections between production design + cinematography + acting. It helped that I'd shown Playtime.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link

Lukewarm responses to Touch of Evil?! Away with these philistines

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 June 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link

they're young

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, fuck it.

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

The line about how Gustav's age ended before he was even born but that he "certainly maintained the illusion with remarkable grace" seems more than a little self-referential/on-the-nose re: Anderson.

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Keep your hands off my lobby boy!

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:56 (two months ago) link

My favorite Ralph Fiennes performance, and he's wonderful in Anderson's Roald Dahl shorts. (Great in Schindler's List and Spider too, but Grand Budapest Hotel is the one I'll be watching most.)

birdistheword, Friday, 9 February 2024 07:25 (two months ago) link


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