OMG I WANT THIS AMAZING RONALDINHO BOTTLE OPENER

Please someone explain clearly to me, because I am clearly an idiot, exactly *how* this is racist.

― ailsa, Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:26 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol (not directed at you koogs)

also DJP's post needs to be in the first response hall of fame if it is not already

i love that the first three posts so clearly demarcate the lines of the oncoming clusterfuck

*incredulousness*
*unflappable enthusiasm*

looking like ronaldinho is racist now

http://deadspin.com/yasiel-puig-uses-his-mouth-to-open-two-beers-at-the-sam-1639231462

I have to assume all the british posters at the start of this thread are paying tribute to stewart lee's routine about jimmy hill by acting out the part of hill

I have to

every few months i skimread through this thread

at last, some good humour to defuse the situation! some of you highly-strung types ought to learn a lesson from this. looking at you, ethan.

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LIMEY RETARD

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

2 weeks pass...

let us discuss whether the portrayal of Ronaldinho on the Simpsons was as offensive or whatever as the bottle opener:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pou-5Vcv0TE

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:32 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nooooooooo

― Just got offed, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:35 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's Ronaldo, not Ronaldinho. Probably best not to think all black guys look the same on this thread, Alex.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:37 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the duration and recapitulation of the arguments here is quite something, mostly one would expect a 1000 page thread like this to be perhaps 400 posts of argument, 200 posts of partially related sniping and then a long cadenza of meta and periodic reminiscence

in this thread people are still trying to determine whether or not the ronaldinho bottle opener might, in fact, be racist after about 850 posts

I don't think I've got that far although there are always a couple of die-hards no

like the japanese guy who thinks it's still ww2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MW0U4UER2c

first response hall of fame

the thing is so grotesque and repellent, quite why anyone would want such an object even if it weren't racist

http://i.imgur.com/F1DwB95.jpg

i dont know who the fuck ronaldinho is but im pretty sure i saw that bottle opener at the end of 'bamboozled'
― and what, Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:55 AM (7 years ago)

it's been nice shitting with you guys

Paul Robinson Chin Ironing BoardWayne Rooney Dog-Training KitMichael Carrick Diaper Dollie with Real Wets-Itself ActionSuper Nail-Bashing Hammer with Michael Owen's Face (Peen End) and Gary Neville's Face (Claw End)

underrated post

this was a coming of age, of sorts

would like to stake an inarguable claim for Most Improved

damn shd have been

i would like to point out that i am the Most Improved

did it ever get conclusively established whether the bottle opener was racist

the only thing to be said in defence of the 'not racist' crowd is that the sort of iconography it duplicates is not quite as familiar in england, and where it does occur it doesn't look quite the same

largely because unlike the people who came up with darlie toothpaste et al, its authors would never have seen any black people so instead of a sort of monstrous deformation of the familiar, they are more purely fictive, rather like the chinoiserie figurines of the 18th and early 19th century

that doesn't explain the way people were still defending it even when its character was amply demonstrated though

the priggish bullheadedness of imbecile youth obvs

true, although most of the rest don't have access to that defence

louis when I was reading this thread from the beginning I didn't realise that unfished business was you which has not been the case with any of your other noms de theatre so you may have a point

obviously most of the world is oblivious to how race functions in brazil but it's sort of peculiar how people who do not identify as black/preto (iirc ronaldinho identifies as pardo/mixed or mb moreno) are considered black elsewhere. there's an argument that within brazil the distinction doesn't really change how ppl are treated, and it's certainly more true abroad wrt anti-black racism; ronaldinho was called an ape by a mexican politician recently (he's moved to queretaro)

it feels worth noting that ronaldinho had cosmetic dental surgery last year

theres only a vague correlation between how brazilian people identify themselves racially and their ancestry

very much doubt whether ronaldinho identifies as 'pardo' though

well obv ancestry is so mixed compared to most countries that any categories are going to be especially arbitrary and loose. can't find the bit about ronaldinho's identification but suspect it was on this blog - http://blackwomenofbrazil.co/

they arent quite as arbitrary as all that and it very much depends on what part of the country, rio grande do sul where he comes from has large populations of german, swiss, polish people etc and a different sort of identity to equatorial brazil, ronaldinho is i think petit-bourgeois by birth unlike most famous brazilian players which would shift his terms of identification somewhat but id imagine he would still be de facto classified as preto by most

there's a lot of debate on that brazilian blog about self-identification vs perceptions & how/if/to what extent ppl distance themselves from blackness. the number of brazilians identifying as preto has shrunk a lot & it's an issue for anti-racist campaigners

my favourite ronaldinho goals

#6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O3otJu2FWE

#5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74i9cSi-WxU

#4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns7lkn3Gahs

#3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEiMWZEns1s

#2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZkJnsADaww

#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZkJnsADaww

that should be

#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m6mz0-hlFc

Ronaldinho has made 14 appearances in all competitions - scoring only three goals and making two assists.

However, the Mexican club's fitness coach Roberto Bassagaisteguy recently revealed the 34-year-old hasn't been pulling his weight in training.

''He doesn't do physical exercise,' Bassagaisteguy said of Ronaldinho. 'I can't force him to run because he doesn't like it. He does special exercises with special players. I know what they like.

Kabuscorp president Kangamba expects Ronaldinho to be plying his trade in Girabola - the top division of Angolan football - at the halfway mark of 2015.

"It's a certainty. We are negotiating, but Ronaldinho has to terminate the contract with his current club, and then be able to join us in June," Kangamba told Public Television Angola (PTA) .

"You may ask why I picked Ronaldinho... Well, I want quality in my squad."

If Ronaldinho does complete a move to Kabuscorp, he would follow in the footsteps of former team-mate Rivaldo, who joined the club on a one-year deal in 2012.

Ideas for ILX
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http://www.watoday.com.au/sport/soccer/brazil-football-legend-ronaldinho-crashes-car-gets-snapped-in-tearyeyed-selfie-20151007-gk3518.html

Saw this bit of questionable kitchen equipment in Primark yesterday:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41oVOKUr9sL._SY300_.jpg

Progress!

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2016/08/09/red-sox-deem-david-ortiz-bobblehead-racially-insensitive/qwAnoxGz56oV5pxohgrFuM/story.html

In unprintable language, Ortiz said he agreed with the team’s decision.

I want to know what he said!

I'm going to go with "What the fuck is this shit?"

Two versions of the bobblehead were made. The Red Sox found both unacceptable.

Good Lord, what did the first one look like?

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/how-america-bought-and-sold-racism/