pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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I think that was a makeshift rain poncho solution.

Evan, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

He spends four paragraphs talking about all the baggage of Garden Sate before getting onto the soundtrack at hand. a) who needs that recap after a decade of "Shins will change your life" hackery, and b) give the new soundtrack at least a little credit and try to judge it on its own terms.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

yeah, i knew as soon as i saw that as the lead that it would be an extremely low grade plus some Braff-bashing.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

I'm fine with Braff-bashing tbh just feel like this was a particularly low quality version.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

@Evan Feel like he was trying to find new ways to criticize a move that's already been beaten to death. But the established things that are awful about Garden State (extreme solipsism, underwritten cliche as female lead, some random quirky idea functioning as the driving force behind each scene, Shins scene) are bad enough; "it includes visual gags" is a much weaker criticism.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link

Right! It's a weird position to be in when you have to defend something you don't like or are otherwise indifferent towards because the other person is criticizing minor or irrelevant details.

Evan, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

i think it's time to pack this one up guys

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

garden state is shit (#31467846953264847 in a series)

wins, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

I've noticed a really irritating trend. So many of my favorite albums this year - like YG, tune-yards and Owen Pallett - has gotten 8.1 or 8.2, without a bnm-nod. Which, I mean, who cares, but the reviews never ever bother explaining why these albums - some of them from artists who were bnm'd before - weren't quite good enough this time. And todays review of Shabazz Palaces is just weird. It ends like this: The soul of Shabazz Palaces is pairing next-gen sounds with classic brass-tacks show-and-prove emceeing, and Lese Majesty tugs those extremes as far as they've ever been pulled; that it never shows signs of wear speaks to the strength of the bond. How is that not a bnm? Tugging next-gen sounds as far as they've ever been pulled? But there's nothing in the review taking it down. It just seems as if they've completely giving up on the idea of innovation being anything to be aplauded.

On another note, no hip-hop albums have been bnm'd this year. The only bnm'd black artists - afaict - are Beyoncé and the Hyperdub-comp. They've really become Mojo for hipsters, haven't they?

Frederik B, Monday, 28 July 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

I'm furiously tugging next-gen over here

some dude, Monday, 28 July 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

there it is

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

It's been established that reviewers don't assign BNM so the language of the review has nothing to do with whether it gets BNM or not. That said, they should just stop doing BNM because it's weird and confusing.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

I don't think the reviewers assign the ratings either?

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

That said, they should just stop doing BNM because it's weird and confusing.

Maybe but it is a go-to for people who aren't hardcore music nerds and just want a cool playlist for their Hanukkah party, I've seen it happen.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

Shabazz Palaces would be great at a Hanukkah party, give it BNM now.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

bnm is for ppl w/ lives/jobs

balls, Monday, 28 July 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link

Basic New Music

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/djperry1973/status/493789133601394690 <-- logical endpoint

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

I don't think the reviewers assign the ratings either?

― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, July 28, 2014 11:51 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is not true

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

yeah this canard comes up fairly regularly itt

for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Monday, 28 July 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

you're gonna break out your box sets this week aren't you

more braffology!

http://www.stereogum.com/1694425/premature-evaluation-spoon-they-want-my-soul/franchises/premature-evaluation/

here’s a moment on Spoon’s new song “Outlier” where Britt Daniel sneaks a sharp splinter of film criticism into one of the tough, terse, personal songs that Spoon is so known for: “I remember when you walked out of Garden State / You had taste, you had taste / You had no time to waste.” Imagine Zach Braff’s face when he hears that song — because you know he’ll hear it. As a guy who was making slick, broadly appealing indie rock in the early ’00s, Daniel probably indirectly made some money off of Garden State, and Joe Chiccarelli, the longtime music-biz insider who co-produced “Outlier,” previously produced the life-changing Shins’ Wincing the Night Away. Point is, that tossed-off dis, really just an aside in the song, is a potential bridge-burner, and most big-indie frontmen in 2014 aren’t in the business of burning bridges, at least not consciously. But Daniel has always carried himself above the fray, with a slight sneer in his voice and a clear sense of purpose in his melodies. And if he wants to say “fuck that” about something, he’s going to do it. That’s a minor moment on Spoon’s new album They Want My Soul, but it’s a telling one, and it shows off the haughty confidence that has always set both Daniel and his band apart. Spoon carry themselves with a certain strut, and it’s been too long since we’ve heard that strut in action.

j., Monday, 28 July 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

whoa that beat that one to death.

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

i mean its kind of a funny line to take note of but to use it as like mathematical proof that britt daniel is a badass is kinda sad

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

it’s been too long since we’ve heard that strut in action.

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

Maybe Britt Daniel is talking about that time she walked out of the State of New Jersey.

voodoo chili, Monday, 28 July 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

strutted out of new jersey

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

I saw Britt Daniel at Pitchfork Fest six years ago in cargo shorts and high tops in the Chipotle line: he wasn't bad ass.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link

That review is trying a bit hard to turn being a spoon fan into a sign you're a fearless ice-cold mfer.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

It would be pretty easy to read that line as sarcastic too.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

cargo shorts are pretty badass, lots of pocket space for more handguns

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

or burritos

bnw, Monday, 28 July 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

i bet you could rob ppl for a lot of burritos at pitchfork fest

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

Imagine Zach Braff’s face when you steal his burrito

tylerw, Monday, 28 July 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link

in one of Britt Daniels' cargo shorts pockets is a interdimensional portal back to Austin, through which he rides on a burrito

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

the one place i ever saw britt daniel was in the pearl district in portland buying truffles at a boutique chocolate place called "moonstruck", no hirschberg

difficult listening hour, Monday, 28 July 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

burritos, truffles, he's a gourmand, that Britt

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 July 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

burritos, truffles in my palm HANH
be like he's a gourmand HANH

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

lmao i've seen Britt Daniels irl and he was eating a burrito

een, Monday, 28 July 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

Ha I was thinking

the one place i ever saw britt daniel was in the pearl district in portland buying truffles at a boutique chocolate place called "moonstruck", no hirschberg

this place has insanely good milkshakes btw

Clay, Monday, 28 July 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

lol at the idea that burning your bridges with Zach Braff is a risky move. Weird to see another article way overstating the importance of that dude for indie music in 2014.

i've seen scrubs a few times -- if you cross braff, he'll prank you in a way that is hilarious but will also make you *think*

tylerw, Monday, 28 July 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

hospital television shows

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

greenday time of your life E.R. scene

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

braff's entire career is just trying to make that scene over and over

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

I kinda dug Scrubs tbh

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 July 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

if they've completely giving up on the idea of innovation being anything to be aplauded.

I hope so. "innovation" is a false god

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

"innovation" may be false, but what about innovation?

David Schramm (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 July 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link

Britt Daniel sneaks a sharp splinter of film criticism into one of the tough, terse, personal songs that Spoon is so known for:

lol is this really what he's "known for", I have never had more than the barest glimmer of understanding of what any of his songs are about beyond the most obvious (Sister Jack etc)

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 July 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link


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