Dawn of the Planet of the Apes: will it be good?

protip: "muir woods" is in vancouver

buzzkill much rog?

pretty sure yr buzz will not be killed in vancouver

I loved the first movie, was pretty much unmoved by this one. I got a modestly at best important text message 10 or 15 minutes before the end and decided, hey, fuck it, I'm just going to bail. I hate that every blockbuster these days just leads up to two groups shooting machine guns at each other. Also, almost every human being in this movie was miscast and poorly written. People make fun of Franco, fine, but he was essential to the first movie. This, half the dudes seem cast for their punchability. And really, gah, "hey, there's this paranoid hot-tempered guy who hates apes and wants to shoot them, let's take him along to negotiate with the apes, who requested no guns and don't trust humans!"

I was also amazed that Keri Russell was in this, but didn't get anything close to a close-up like 20 minutes in. I kept thinking, oh, is that Keri Russell? And then after I realized it was her I didn't care, because who was she in this? Some doctor? A barely-written cog in an ape-wheel machine that didn't need her?

Great ape effects, though. Hope the next one is all apes and sign-language, because I hated how these smart apes essentially spoke like cavemen crossed with Tonto. "Me no like this movie. This movie tread familiar ground. Me do something else with time."

i will raise my hand in favor of more keri russell, more keri russell close-ups

"ape no like helping verbs!"

THIS TIME IT'S WAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEP1Mk6Un98

At this point I will watch Woody Harrelson do anything, so.

well, yeah

this was so close to being a good trailer until the quasi-title drop

if all big Hollywood CGI fests were as good as the previous two Apes films, we'd be in paradise. hoping this one doesn't let us down

although I'm concerned this will be more like just the last 30 mins of the last one. too much shooting and not enough cool ape stuff

this was so close to being a good trailer until the quasi-title drop

that was the best bit

Never saw Dawn until last night; pretty good, even though the war-movie last act is too long and familiar, and Keri Russell is just doing her concerned-mom thing from her TV show w/out the lethal edge.

that scene with the two guards and the ape is straight out of "Prometheus" dumb behavior.

Never saw Prometheus, but that was one of the more knowing bits of social satire I thought.

Serkis has pioneered this motion-capture thing for actors, obviously. I might even pay to see the new one.

why wd you title the first movie Rise and the second Dawn, rather than the other way round?

that bothered me too lool

the new one is the least of the three though it has its moments

yeah the naming struck me as a bit weird too

Brunch of the Planet of the Apes

Return Of The Planet Of The Apes: Apes Webinar

Redistricting of the Planet of the Apes: Tenderloin

although I'm concerned this will be more like just the last 30 mins of the last one. too much shooting and not enough cool ape stuff

No doubt I have a post saying this upthread, but the last film I made it until maybe up to the last 10 or 15 minutes or so, looked at my watch, then just decided I was so sick of watching monkeys shooting machine guns that I just left.

Planet of the Apes: SoPA

the new one mostly features apes using arrows and shit

Planet Of The Apes Lite

they could do a faithful mid-budget version of the original novel now, w/ a high-tech CG Ape City, but of course it is a talky satire and hence of zero interest to Fox.

I was so sick of watching monkeys shooting machine guns

does not compute

yeah cannot comprehend

I recognize that on paper it makes no sense. But perhaps the monkey CGI is so good that I stopped thinking of them as humanoid monkeys and more just people firing machine guns like any other action movie.

still not following u

this was great, good ending to this part of the story. if they go on it would be interesting to see what they do, but they don't need to, as this kind of sets things up for the original film.

a few questions: 1) I assume that guy wasn't the girl's father because she shows no emotion at seeing him dead, as compared to the tears she sheds over the dead monkey about 20 minutes later 2) the virus robbing people of speech: she seems fine despite having no speech, so my guess is that it only affected the ability to talk, it didn't do anything else. but how long do we think she was like this? 3) it's never really clear how bad the rest of the world is. they seem to be travelling across Utah to Colorado at the end and don't encounter any people, so by this point, is most of humanity wiped out?

it's never really clear how bad the rest of the world is. they seem to be travelling across Utah to Colorado at the end and don't encounter any people, so by this point, is most of humanity wiped out?

honestly despite the annoying opening crawl there was a lot about the world and even just the spatial logic of the movie that was completely lost to me

^^ this. i'm like are they headed to tahoe?

i assumed this took place between northern california and washington (it looks like Muir Woods again at the beginning and looked like Muir Beach where they found the girl) but they seemed to move very far north pretty quickly, I guess monkeys have faster velocity than I thought.

There's a reason for the saying "fast as a monkey."

oh also the special effects in this movie are probably the best and most realistic I've ever seen.

I've heard that from a few people, but I also thought that about the first and second movies, so I'm not sure what could make the effects better. An even more believable talking monkey running around with a machine gun?

you will absolutely believe these monkeys are real and you will care deeply.

but everything else is pretty amazing too. There is a very large environmental event that happens at the end of the movie which is breathtaking.

well of course the one w/ Woody Harrelson wd have an environmental event

it's not quite like that. I just didn't want to spoil what it was by being explicit.

Do the monkeys throw their poop?

Yes

Sold!

haha yes they do, one of the best scenes

monkeys = feces flinging

i assumed this took place between northern california and washington

I wasn't so much talking about the real-world geography as much as where events took place in relation to one another

trajectory appears to be from marin to sierras to camp at the california/nevada border

then what was the desert?

why can't these monkeys provide a map

how does cornelius get all the way to new york

lol akm i stopped at the camp for a reason

"and then they crossed Nevada by foot and set up in Salt Lake City"