buckingham nicks mcvie

yeah i'm not looking for that Rumors-less timeline myself

McVie > Buckingham > Nicks

lol

oh wait are you serious?

yes?

or are you telling me what order they joined the band in

my favorite FM songs are "Don't Stop" and "Say You Love Me" and "You Make Loving Fun" so I am 100% serious. not trying to get into a stupid argument about my personal opinion.

i still love stevie nicks fwiw

i'm pretty much in agreement but they're not separated by too much in my preference

my favorite FM songs are "Don't Stop" and "Say You Love Me" and "You Make Loving Fun"

Wow, these are songs I'd never say I hate, but they are the ones I reliably skip when I know they're coming.

so many of her supposedly good songs are actually terrible i cannot describe how annoying everywhere is to me

I love love love Everywhere. But I like Seven Wonders even more and everybody else seems to hate that one (I know it's a Stevie song...sort of).

some of mcvie's best cuts are from this era imo

Fleetwood Mac between Peter Green and Buckingham/Nicks

so funny also to think of these middle aged people being like a fresh pop act

"you make loving fun" is unbelievable

i am willing to accept that there is all this excellent mcvie material hidden on bob welch albums but this is not so tempting

brad otm

there are admittedly some really great christine mcvie songs up until tusk

over and over for example

"hold me" is like the best song on mirage

ymmv if you don't like christine as much but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhjdNvxF6eQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xJF-x9XJio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIARC-2ji6I

imo with christine there's oddly no middle ground between the transcendent and the clunker.

I'm listening to Behind the Mask right now (why? because I obviously hate myself). If there were more songs like "Save Me" on this album, Lindsey's departure might not have been as big a deal as it was. One of Christine's strongest post-Rumours songs.

She's so good at verse-chorus-verse with little subtle harmonic curlicues that she's easy to underestimate.

Christine's best album is Tango. She runs away with the thing.

alfred otm

buckingham hands fucking down

McVie > Buckingham > Nicks

^This. I do think that some of McVie's best songs are on Bare Trees and Future Games but she's still on point all through this era.

It's more accurate to argue that McVie's Tango songs lent themselves to Buck's ministrations more than Nicks distracted doodles.

Never forget: WASAMATTAH BABEH BABEH BABEH

darn, thought thread title was buckingham nicks movie for a second.

― pplains, Monday, July 21, 2014 12:56 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same here, thought it was time to make some casting decisions

lol there goes the thread

Meryl Streep as Buckingham obv

kim coates as buckingham

dennis from always sunny has to play lindsey obv

http://images.scholastic.co.uk/assets/a/20/ef/132325-ml-554232.jpg

It should be the whole cast of Sunny, incl. the waitress (she could be Bekka Bramlett, for inst.)
Then there's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBft-I4UdU

and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBft-I4UdU

Her 1884 solo album has some good stuff too, but xpost "no middle ground between transcendent and clunkers" ain't too far off the mark.

Sorry! I meant to post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub-asknyxtc

I'm a sucker for this one. The piano interlude after the first verse is gorgeous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SygGLVKZ0Q

honey hi is a dark horse mcvie masterpiece

honey hi has that amazing instrumental passage about a third of the way in and the vocal arrangements on the outro are pretty cool but lord its good to talk to you even sweeter than wine omg

daddy all im tryin to tell you

oh daddy can fuck right off though

but she can be your daddy

suddenly had an awesome vision of Christine singing Prince's "Sister" as an uptempo bouncer in the mode of "Say You Love Me"

christine mcvie can be my daddy any day

the stars must be my friends to shine for me

Over My Head is the ultimate FM song and McVie the band's greatest songwriter.

buckingham p easily. after looking up writing credits i might say mcvie slightly over nicks but not sure. all three are obv classic.

granted, "don't stop" is awful, but i blame the whole band for that.

i love dont stop but hear it as more desperate than, say, the clinton administration did

if "don't stop" actually played any part in getting clinton elected -- after 12 years of reagan and bush -- that just makes the song that much better.

Well, we got eight more years of Reaganism but ooooooohh doncha look baaaack

i realize i brought it up in the first place, but not gonna argue politics on a fleetwood mac thread.

i'd rather argue about the unfair treatment of nicks in these poll results.

there's no way the results of the poll wouldn't be fair unless each person got 6 votes

would be fair i mean

there's no way the results of the poll wouldn't be fair unless each person got 6 votes

I'm sure they all got their lawyers and managers on it right away.

lol

This doc is awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQOjptfZLJ4

Fave moment is probably around 23:40, where Lindsey basically says my way or the highway, either release a double album or I will take all my songs and release my own album.

Second fave around 4:50, when Stevie arrives at the studio with a dreamcatcher.

My favorite bit is when Buckingham questions Mick and when the nine-foot-tall drummer glowers and rises to his full height you suddenly realize that Buckingham may be the genius but it's Mick Fleetwood's fucking band.

I like when they interview 2 of the 3 managers about the double album.

man Fleetwood realizes what even in 2003 Buck doesn't: Buck can realize solo albums that sell low five figures because he's in Fleetwood fucking Mac.

My favorite bit is when Buckingham questions Mick and when the nine-foot-tall drummer glowers and rises to his full height you suddenly realize that Buckingham may be the genius but it's Mick Fleetwood's fucking band.

Tell it to Mick c. "Tango" when he was living on a steady diet of coke in a camper van parked on Lindsey's property.

xpost Eh, if that fame really ported over then Bucky would be playing to thousands of people in clubs rather than hundreds.

yeah but Mick's leadership has never been questioned, and it's more certain now that he's off drugs.

Don't Stop is great, even if you hate it. Some things are beyond good and evil.

I dunno. I think Mick abdicated his leadership position, or at least Bucky took over in something akin to a bloodless coup. While Mick is awesome, it's been Bucky since Tusk - his indulgences, his compromises, his cooperation. Bucky was the only one, besides Christine (I think), who did not have a serious substance abuse problem, and I think Mick understands the band hangs on him now. Especially ever since the "Behind the Mask" debacle.

(Is Behind the Mask a debacle? I've never heard it.)

You can be essential without being a leader.

I dunno if the band has a leader so much as a person shouting loudest at the moment

The McVie songs on BTM, the only ones I've heard, stick to her tried-and-true and don't sound particularly tacky but no special touches either. I do remember "Save Me" getting airplay.

i doubt anyone's said "guys fleetwood mac needs to do something" more than mick, the other 3 show their power by saying they DON'T need to do something.

and then there's john.

and then there's john

...who has a ton to do with what makes them sound so great. i've always heard fm as very much mick and john's band; the name of the band is no accident. without 'em, the others would just be three very good singer-songwriters, all of whom benefited as much if not more from the rhythm section as the rhythm section benefited from them.

I've always thought the distance between the B/N album and the s/t/ FM record to be not so great. I love the Mick and John rhythm section, but not least because they adapted so well to Bucky's vision. And probably got even better because of it.

i doubt anyone's said "guys fleetwood mac needs to do something" more than mick

No doubt, says the only member of FM who spent a considerable time bankrupt. Either way, this was a good read: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/30/business/talking-money-with-mick-fleetwood-there-s-no-stopping-tomorrow.html

sister stopped by this place on her money, said it was pretty surreal - lots of paintings of himself

http://www.fleetwoodsonfrontst.com/

on her honeymoon, i meant to write. gah