Pete Townshend invites Kenney Jones to be the new drummer for the Who. Odd.

Yeah, but Phil wasn't a mod. Kenney had a history with the Who, from touring together (he and Keith once played "Magic Bus" together on the same kit) to playing on most of the Tommy soundtrack. Great as Phil was, they barely knew the guy.

Not a mod? B-but he was in A Hard Day's Night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKj007MA0g

i get WHY Phil wasn't the choice (and it's hard to imagine him juggling Genesis, the solo career AND the Who throughout the 80s), i'm just saying it's an interesting scenario to imagine.

I can't think of many moments of Collins as sessioneer when he hasn't shone.

The Sessioneer Shone would be a good title for a compilation of his sideman work

That video cracks me up-Pete looking like he is going to sit in later with Ultravox, and Collins ready to go for the Jimmy Buffett set.

Yeah, but Phil wasn't a mod. Kenney had a history with the Who, from touring together (he and Keith once played "Magic Bus" together on the same kit) to playing on most of the Tommy soundtrack. Great as Phil was, they barely knew the guy.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, July 21, 2014 5:24 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not sure about Collins during the 60s, do know that the Action are one of his all time favourite bands and he seemed to have a predeliction for 60s soul too which might suggest he was at least leaning toward mod.
THink he may have been too young to be actively involved in any mid 60s scene. Not sure how old he was when he was in Flaming Youth

Yeah, I realized after dow's AHDN post that Phil was too young to be a mod (he was 13 in 1964). And while Phil no doubt dug mod sounds, Jones and the rest of the Who came up through (and helped define) mod culture itself. So the Who and Jones felt a kinship that Phil couldn't have shared, largely due to the age difference.

That said, yeah, it would've been fascinating to hear Phil play with the Who. And it could've happened; Daltrey's idea was that the Who would have a revolving door of drummers, but Townshend shot him down and insisted on Jones. The irony is that Phil really seemed to love the Who, while Jones, by his own admission, only knew the hits when he joined.

Pete and Phil both played on Paul McCartney's Press to Play album as well!

http://www.maccafan.net/Albums/PressToPlay/Friends.jpg

http://www.maccafan.net/Albums/PressToPlay/Friends2.jpg

that is an amazing prince's trust clip.

"Angry" is by far the worst song on that album.

That video cracks me up-Pete looking like he is going to sit in later with Ultravox, and Collins ready to go for the Jimmy Buffett set.

That said, yeah, it would've been fascinating to hear Phil play with the Who. And it could've happened; Daltrey's idea was that the Who would have a revolving door of drummers, but Townshend shot him down and insisted on Jones. The irony is that Phil really seemed to love the Who, while Jones, by his own admission, only knew the hits when he joined.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, July 21, 2014 10:56 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a poignant bit from Pete's book about the period after Face Dances when Roger wanted Kenney out:

"Why was this new system not working for Roger? Roger literally used to dance to Keith's drums. He was balletic in his upper-body movements, just as I was balletic sometimes in my leaps and splits. (I once said to Roger that if you could combine his torso with my legs you'd have a hell of a man.) But when Kenney joined the band, Roger couldn't dance to the music any more. He claimed that Keith had always followed the vocal line, and that he in turn followed Keith. And Keith was gone."

Roger otm

Dig Roger here at 1:33 demonstrating Keith playing with the vocal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLMc6J9h3mU

Can Pete come out already

i mean he's pretty open about his attraction to Jagger and other men in the book. if he'd acted on those impulses, it's difficult to imagine he'd hold back given how detailed the book is about everything else that ever happened to him.

wouldn't count on it some dude, have you seen how he walked back 'Rough Boys'?

The explanation is so goddamn gnarled

oh god, rog playing back the vocals and drums to behind blue eyes and just being totally joyful <3

Wasn't there someone he dun it with in his book? I forget who, boom boom.

i haven't finished it yet, jeez spoiler alert much

It's OK, it wasn't Basil Brush really.