Feminist Theory & "Women's Issues" Discussion Thread: All Gender Identities Are Encouraged To Participate

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yeah none of this actually matters anyway

balls, Saturday, 19 July 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link

stop talking, bollocks m8

ogmor, Saturday, 19 July 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

My daughter has the opposite affliction from spastic disorder (hypertonia). Instead she is seriously hypotonic. I suppose it was a bit of good luck for her that 'hypotonic' has no cachet as a playground insult.

As for her opinion of 'retard' as an insult (nb: her IQ cannot be measured by any existing test and thus is officially set at 60) I think I know her well enough to be sure she would have nothing but contempt for those who bandy it about. Unfortunately she can't speak or sign and therefore cannot share that opinion explicitly.

frog latin (Aimless), Sunday, 20 July 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link

<3 all dealing with rrealitiesof referenced conditions

but in awe of subset of above realising/allowing for everyday human piggybacking of terms little understood/appreciated nonetheless referenced for everyday effect

blap setter (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 July 2014 01:38 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Might anyone be able to recommend a gd introduction to 3rd-wave / intersectional stuff for my grandmother (age 88)? It needs to be something reasonably light (she's in pain so finds it hard to read super academic stuff, though she used to a lot) and not get too into technological stuff (no internet etc) but she's keen on knowing more and asked me to find something.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 8 August 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link

xp not sure how much it ticks the boxes but Nina Power's One Dimensional Woman is good.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

as a v readable take on the state of feminism today

Merdeyeux, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

I just recommend bell hooks' Feminism is for Everybody for everything. Very easy read but not light on substance.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 8 August 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

one dimensional woman is a good call, v short!

ogmor, Friday, 8 August 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

Nina Power's book would fit the bill

cardamon, Sunday, 10 August 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/04/men-are-harassed-more-than-women-online.html

Quite interesting. Title had me wary but it's good.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 15 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

"Demos categorised tweets as offensive if they contained 1 or more of the abusive words included in Google's search language filter"

An offensive tweet according to that list of words: "ah balls, pisses me off when that happens too, sorry mate"
Not an offensive tweet according to that list: "(your address here) I know where you live and you don't deserve to. I'm gonna rape you and kill you tonight"

or, for someone smarter than me but with a pretty offputting URL: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2014/09/07/are-men-really-harassed-more-than-women/

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 15 September 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

yeah I don't need to follow links to know that the only way that could be "true" is through selective manipulation of data

sleeve, Monday, 15 September 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

Yet we bolster the same stereotypes when we focus on nasty things said to women while trivializing threats against men even though men are much more likely to be victims of violence by strangers.

this is brilliantly obtuse

Daphnis Celesta, Monday, 15 September 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

Was just going to post the same complaint about the Demos study. And that's probably the most potentially-substantive piece of evidence in the whole article. It's a bunch of dubious claims, dubiously strung together, in a way guaranteed to give ammunition to misogynists looking to downplay online harassment of women and portray them as deluded and irrational.

JRN, Monday, 15 September 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

Yes, that Freethought article is a good takedown

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 15 September 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link

https://zapp.trakt.us/images/episodes/957-3-2.jpg

Daphnis Celesta, Monday, 15 September 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

I know.

The first article was interesting to me mainly because of the various controversies referenced that I was previously unaware of. I realised just as I posted that what I had written sounded like an endorsement of those views and I knew I'd probably regret it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 15 September 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link

And also knew that my response to the second article would make me look an embarrasing clown, no way of avoiding it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link

lol demos still exists

intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link

i think i finally 'get' shanley on twitter. she's basically a feminist ethan with more work ethic. really starting to enjoy some of her protracted 'performance' tweetstorms.

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Monday, 22 September 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link

hahahahahahhahahahahahaha

max, Monday, 22 September 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

well put

max, Monday, 22 September 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

it's cool, they're armed

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

CARCERAL LIBERALISM

goole, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link

Can someone tell me what was the thread where we were discussing rape culture and whether it was disproportionately associated with frats or not?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

Men's Rights thread.

thread for contemplating the serious issues raised by the Men's Rights movement

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

ah right, thx

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/chalabi-datalab-flightattendants-2.png

I thought this was an interesting chart - breakdown of gender proportions in various professions, ordered

(Can't seem to find the originating 538 post)

, Saturday, 4 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

^shocked to see that "mathematicians and mathematical scientists" are split 51% men, 49% women. this is wholly contrary to the stereotype.

Aimless, Saturday, 4 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

the fields i work in are the most male-dominated on the chart: boilermakers (99.8%), concrete and cement workers (99.3%), heating, air conditioning and refrigeration mechanics (98.9%), heavy equipment and farm equipment mechanics (98.8%), operating engineers of construction equipment (98.4%), excavating and loading machine operators (98.2%), electric power installers and repairers (98.2%), electricians (98.2%), repairers of industrial electrical equipment (97.1%), etc.

ime a lot of the support staff for companies in those industries are women - but yeah, i don't think i've ever seen a woman rig out a piece of heavy equipment before

Mordy, Saturday, 4 October 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

i really like the term "drillers of earth"

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 October 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

http://reason.com/archives/2014/10/07/ruining-sex-in-california

editorial creepy AF

deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link

very smart take on affirmative consent law imo:
http://dsadevil.blogspot.com/2014/10/necrophiliacs-anonymous.html

Mordy, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

I lol'd:

http://thewomansplainer.com/

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link

i caught about 10 min of the dr phil show yesterday and steve harvey was on explaining to women what they were doing wrong (it looked like the whole show was about women and what they're doing wrong) and why they were still single. this one woman said that she thinks (and has been told) that men are intimidated by her success, and steve harvey responded in such a way that i honestly couldn't believe what i was hearing.

he said the following, not in exact words but not far off:
* NOTHING you could possibly do would be intimidating to a real man
* without us, you can't make babies
* without us, you can't have families
* without us, you can't move a refrigerator

wtf

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link

oh he also said "and if you can move a refrigerator by yourself, you're going to have a REAL hard time finding a man"
what a cretin

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

phew i have never wished for a man for any of those purposes

flatizza (harbl), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

hey you know how this man moves a refrigerator

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

he pays someone else to do it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

xp neither have i! that aside, it made me angry and curious about what other total horseshit people say on daytime tv. what a cesspool!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link

damn if i could only find a girl could move her own fridge

zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link

i expect the woman to move all the refrigerators on a first date

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link

I have never moved, nor had the need to move, a refrigerator

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link

I mean seriously terrible example, that's like one thing you virtually never move. You get it delivered, that's it til the day it dies! Most places you move into already have one! You are in television guy, think of a better example!

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link

He's crazy, I move the fridge every time I sweep the floor. They SCOOTCH, you know. No one is picking them up with one hand like a super hero--not even MEN.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

he is disgusting
no families without men? tell that to bazumpteen thousand single moms, asshole. he sucks.

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

He's terrible.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link


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