Feminist Theory & "Women's Issues" Discussion Thread: All Gender Identities Are Encouraged To Participate

Also "lame" xps

How's about fucking Über-Schmoozer, how's life? All this "political correctness gone mad" vehemence is complete shit. I am sticking up for people here who often don't have ability to fight back and I don't really care if I sound like a loon. I am the only able bodied person in my household, my partner has some rare form of leukodystrophy/MS and my son is on the non-verbal side of the autism spectrum. I can't really approach this from any than other vantage other than fuck people who are always arguing for their right to use reductive insults against disabled people. Anyone who who thinks words are harmless is talking garbage and has no appreciation of the insidious, attritional effect they have on vulnerable people, often without the ability to fight back.

Sorry again feminist clique I promise I won't post on here again.

arguing for their right to use reductive insults against disabled people - nobody is doing this

Anyone who who thinks words are harmless is talking garbage and has no appreciation of the insidious, attritional effect they have on vulnerable people, often without the ability to fight back. - you are describing nobody on this thread

Damn dude let it go

yeah none of this actually matters anyway

stop talking, bollocks m8

My daughter has the opposite affliction from spastic disorder (hypertonia). Instead she is seriously hypotonic. I suppose it was a bit of good luck for her that 'hypotonic' has no cachet as a playground insult.

As for her opinion of 'retard' as an insult (nb: her IQ cannot be measured by any existing test and thus is officially set at 60) I think I know her well enough to be sure she would have nothing but contempt for those who bandy it about. Unfortunately she can't speak or sign and therefore cannot share that opinion explicitly.

<3 all dealing with rrealitiesof referenced conditions

but in awe of subset of above realising/allowing for everyday human piggybacking of terms little understood/appreciated nonetheless referenced for everyday effect

Might anyone be able to recommend a gd introduction to 3rd-wave / intersectional stuff for my grandmother (age 88)? It needs to be something reasonably light (she's in pain so finds it hard to read super academic stuff, though she used to a lot) and not get too into technological stuff (no internet etc) but she's keen on knowing more and asked me to find something.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/38d71ee8c8e6af69dbd16f28f359c1a3/tumblr_n9u7kepcfX1qjzfl0o1_500.gif

xp not sure how much it ticks the boxes but Nina Power's One Dimensional Woman is good.

as a v readable take on the state of feminism today

I just recommend bell hooks' Feminism is for Everybody for everything. Very easy read but not light on substance.

one dimensional woman is a good call, v short!

Nina Power's book would fit the bill

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/04/men-are-harassed-more-than-women-online.html

Quite interesting. Title had me wary but it's good.

"Demos categorised tweets as offensive if they contained 1 or more of the abusive words included in Google's search language filter"

An offensive tweet according to that list of words: "ah balls, pisses me off when that happens too, sorry mate"
Not an offensive tweet according to that list: "(your address here) I know where you live and you don't deserve to. I'm gonna rape you and kill you tonight"

or, for someone smarter than me but with a pretty offputting URL: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2014/09/07/are-men-really-harassed-more-than-women/

yeah I don't need to follow links to know that the only way that could be "true" is through selective manipulation of data

Yet we bolster the same stereotypes when we focus on nasty things said to women while trivializing threats against men even though men are much more likely to be victims of violence by strangers.

this is brilliantly obtuse

Was just going to post the same complaint about the Demos study. And that's probably the most potentially-substantive piece of evidence in the whole article. It's a bunch of dubious claims, dubiously strung together, in a way guaranteed to give ammunition to misogynists looking to downplay online harassment of women and portray them as deluded and irrational.

Yes, that Freethought article is a good takedown

https://zapp.trakt.us/images/episodes/957-3-2.jpg

I know.

The first article was interesting to me mainly because of the various controversies referenced that I was previously unaware of. I realised just as I posted that what I had written sounded like an endorsement of those views and I knew I'd probably regret it.

And also knew that my response to the second article would make me look an embarrasing clown, no way of avoiding it.

lol demos still exists

i think i finally 'get' shanley on twitter. she's basically a feminist ethan with more work ethic. really starting to enjoy some of her protracted 'performance' tweetstorms.

hahahahahahhahahahahahaha

well put

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-yXi-zSHoQ

#womancrushwednesdays

http://cartermatt.com/130797/law-order-svu-season-16-see-fun-promo-mariska-hargitay-chicago-pd/

it's cool, they're armed

CARCERAL LIBERALISM

Can someone tell me what was the thread where we were discussing rape culture and whether it was disproportionately associated with frats or not?

Men's Rights thread.

thread for contemplating the serious issues raised by the Men's Rights movement

ah right, thx

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/chalabi-datalab-flightattendants-2.png

I thought this was an interesting chart - breakdown of gender proportions in various professions, ordered

(Can't seem to find the originating 538 post)

^shocked to see that "mathematicians and mathematical scientists" are split 51% men, 49% women. this is wholly contrary to the stereotype.

the fields i work in are the most male-dominated on the chart: boilermakers (99.8%), concrete and cement workers (99.3%), heating, air conditioning and refrigeration mechanics (98.9%), heavy equipment and farm equipment mechanics (98.8%), operating engineers of construction equipment (98.4%), excavating and loading machine operators (98.2%), electric power installers and repairers (98.2%), electricians (98.2%), repairers of industrial electrical equipment (97.1%), etc.

ime a lot of the support staff for companies in those industries are women - but yeah, i don't think i've ever seen a woman rig out a piece of heavy equipment before

i really like the term "drillers of earth"

http://reason.com/archives/2014/10/07/ruining-sex-in-california

editorial creepy AF

very smart take on affirmative consent law imo:
http://dsadevil.blogspot.com/2014/10/necrophiliacs-anonymous.html

I lol'd:

http://thewomansplainer.com/

i caught about 10 min of the dr phil show yesterday and steve harvey was on explaining to women what they were doing wrong (it looked like the whole show was about women and what they're doing wrong) and why they were still single. this one woman said that she thinks (and has been told) that men are intimidated by her success, and steve harvey responded in such a way that i honestly couldn't believe what i was hearing.

he said the following, not in exact words but not far off:
* NOTHING you could possibly do would be intimidating to a real man
* without us, you can't make babies
* without us, you can't have families
* without us, you can't move a refrigerator

wtf

oh he also said "and if you can move a refrigerator by yourself, you're going to have a REAL hard time finding a man"
what a cretin

phew i have never wished for a man for any of those purposes

hey you know how this man moves a refrigerator

he pays someone else to do it

xp neither have i! that aside, it made me angry and curious about what other total horseshit people say on daytime tv. what a cesspool!

damn if i could only find a girl could move her own fridge

i expect the woman to move all the refrigerators on a first date

I have never moved, nor had the need to move, a refrigerator