heston would have made for a good serious-but-leavened batman
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 18 July 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
picturing that in my head...it's super weird
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 July 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
"villains are a superstitious, cowardly lot..."http://parallax-view.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/1345_still01_small.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 18 July 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
So I ended up watching this last night
― cardamon, Sunday, 20 July 2014 10:52 (nine years ago) link
The idea that 'the apes are like people!' doesn't come across very well when the apes are in fact, not just 'like people', but 100% the same as a sentimental blockbuster's sketch of a person.
― cardamon, Sunday, 20 July 2014 10:55 (nine years ago) link
That undercuts the thing the film seemed to want to do, which was to ask, in blockbuster language, whether two different types of being could ever live peacefully together ... but that question falters a bit when the two are so similar
― cardamon, Sunday, 20 July 2014 10:57 (nine years ago) link
i liked this a lot! but I also realized afterwards that I was so transfixed by the apes I didn't really notice that there's really not much character development going on, the people are v one dimensional, even cesar is kinda one note. oops
also mr veg was all "wtf why would you stay in sf. nothing works!! why not go to the central valley where you can at least grow food"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 July 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
The movie establishes that humans and apes agree that the most desired things are watching family photos and videos on iPads or cameras and graphic novels, so maybe there are still apple stores and comic book shops in post-apepocalypse SF
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 20 July 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
And I thought they didn't really follow through on the threatening first sight you get of the apes swinging silently through the trees hunting deer - if they were that scary all the way through, then the question 'Can humans live with these beings' would have been sharper
― cardamon, Sunday, 20 July 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
cardamon, i like the spice that is your namesake. i really had rice flavored with cardamon at a persian restaurant and it was really good. just so you know.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 20 July 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
I try to live up to that spice
― cardamon, Sunday, 20 July 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
I'm willing to admit that I might not have 'got' this film
I enjoyed this. Not as much as Rise which is great because of the sweetness and the character development. This seems very much a second-in-a-series film, and it's over the top with the explosions and action, but it was still awfully good. One, it looks amazing. This is the best CGI in a film so far, the only poor point being when Felicity interacts with the baby ape (presumably there was no mo-cap for that). I'm interested to see what the 3rd movie does; if it's just an all out war, I think that will be boring, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt that they are going to go somewhere unexpected.
― akm, Monday, 21 July 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
ok, this diplomatic mission is our one last desperate chance to rescue this whole sorry affair. i want my gf, my kid and let's see we need one more guy... hey! you! hotheaded dude with a rifle, a hair trigger and a massive chip on your shoulder who got us into this mess! get in the truck big shooter!
― sktsh, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah the more i ponder this the stupider it seems
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
if it's just an all out war, I think that will be boring
maybe not if it was directed by james cameron... in 1987.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link
the climactic crane'n'girder fight was very die hard i thought
(no bad thing of course)
― sktsh, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
They handwaved that with some mumbo jumbo about needing his technical knowledge but yeah, that just underlined that it was BS
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
they explained he was the only one who knew how to fix the hydroelectric dam, otherwise they would have gotten rid of him
i guess it's a screenwriter's trick but it didn't bother me too much
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 23:42 (nine years ago) link
that didn't really bother me as much as having injured wheezing caesar talking instead of signing.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link
so many criticisms about a movie about monkeys fucking ruling the SF Bay
― akm, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 01:28 (nine years ago) link
never wanted to go to muir wood til now THANK U CAESAR
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link
protip: "muir woods" is in vancouver
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 03:09 (nine years ago) link
buzzkill much rog?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link
pretty sure yr buzz will not be killed in vancouver
― balls, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 03:34 (nine years ago) link
I loved the first movie, was pretty much unmoved by this one. I got a modestly at best important text message 10 or 15 minutes before the end and decided, hey, fuck it, I'm just going to bail. I hate that every blockbuster these days just leads up to two groups shooting machine guns at each other. Also, almost every human being in this movie was miscast and poorly written. People make fun of Franco, fine, but he was essential to the first movie. This, half the dudes seem cast for their punchability. And really, gah, "hey, there's this paranoid hot-tempered guy who hates apes and wants to shoot them, let's take him along to negotiate with the apes, who requested no guns and don't trust humans!"
I was also amazed that Keri Russell was in this, but didn't get anything close to a close-up like 20 minutes in. I kept thinking, oh, is that Keri Russell? And then after I realized it was her I didn't care, because who was she in this? Some doctor? A barely-written cog in an ape-wheel machine that didn't need her?
Great ape effects, though. Hope the next one is all apes and sign-language, because I hated how these smart apes essentially spoke like cavemen crossed with Tonto. "Me no like this movie. This movie tread familiar ground. Me do something else with time."
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 August 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link
i will raise my hand in favor of more keri russell, more keri russell close-ups
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 16 August 2014 03:40 (nine years ago) link
"ape no like helping verbs!"
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 16 August 2014 03:41 (nine years ago) link
THIS TIME IT'S WAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEP1Mk6Un98
At this point I will watch Woody Harrelson do anything, so.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Friday, 9 December 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link
well, yeah
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
this was so close to being a good trailer until the quasi-title drop
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
if all big Hollywood CGI fests were as good as the previous two Apes films, we'd be in paradise. hoping this one doesn't let us down
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Saturday, 10 December 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link
although I'm concerned this will be more like just the last 30 mins of the last one. too much shooting and not enough cool ape stuff
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Saturday, 10 December 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link
that was the best bit
― Number None, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:06 (seven years ago) link
Never saw Dawn until last night; pretty good, even though the war-movie last act is too long and familiar, and Keri Russell is just doing her concerned-mom thing from her TV show w/out the lethal edge.
that scene with the two guards and the ape is straight out of "Prometheus" dumb behavior.
Never saw Prometheus, but that was one of the more knowing bits of social satire I thought.
Serkis has pioneered this motion-capture thing for actors, obviously. I might even pay to see the new one.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 July 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
why wd you title the first movie Rise and the second Dawn, rather than the other way round?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 July 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
that bothered me too lool
the new one is the least of the three though it has its moments
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
yeah the naming struck me as a bit weird too
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
Brunch of the Planet of the Apes
― Number None, Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
Return Of The Planet Of The Apes: Apes Webinar
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
Redistricting of the Planet of the Apes: Tenderloin
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
No doubt I have a post saying this upthread, but the last film I made it until maybe up to the last 10 or 15 minutes or so, looked at my watch, then just decided I was so sick of watching monkeys shooting machine guns that I just left.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
Planet of the Apes: SoPA
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
the new one mostly features apes using arrows and shit
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 July 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
Planet Of The Apes Lite
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 16 July 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
they could do a faithful mid-budget version of the original novel now, w/ a high-tech CG Ape City, but of course it is a talky satire and hence of zero interest to Fox.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 July 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
I was so sick of watching monkeys shooting machine guns
does not compute
― bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 16 July 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
yeah cannot comprehend
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 July 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link
I recognize that on paper it makes no sense. But perhaps the monkey CGI is so good that I stopped thinking of them as humanoid monkeys and more just people firing machine guns like any other action movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 July 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
still not following u
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 July 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link