DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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That's usually the way with Foreign Secretary/ Prime Minister.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:43 (nine years ago) link

Gove has definitely fucked kids tbf

The pix of Hague and Savile together are a bit ewwwwww and on the nose, but because of source, not linking.

leave the web alone boys (suzy), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:47 (nine years ago) link

His funny voice notwithstanding, Hague seemed like one of the more competent/less fucking enraging Tories.

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:03 (nine years ago) link

I will always be grateful to him for doing his best to make the Tories unelectable during his time as leader.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:14 (nine years ago) link

Hague's 20-pints-a-night wildman image just too strong for dealing with sensitive Muslim allies

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:30 (nine years ago) link

i did really enjoy the ten minutes of GOVE OUT jubilation though

trouble is that every time you think one of these monsters has been removed, there are 20 more greedy maggots fervently wriggling round in the wound left behind, gorged on pus, just waiting to burst out

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:35 (nine years ago) link

This reshuffle suggests that the election campaign has started early - the election campaign for the next Tory leader that is - and that May has pulled ahead of Osborne.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:35 (nine years ago) link

not even the fucking Tories are stupid enough to believe that Osborne could ever, ever have the makings of a Prime Minister.

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:42 (nine years ago) link

every time you think one of these monsters has been removed, there are 20 more greedy maggots fervently wriggling round in the wound left behind, gorged on pus, just waiting to burst out

plus removed to where

conrad, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link

not even the fucking Tories are stupid enough to believe that Osborne could ever, ever have the makings of a Prime Minister.

― Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:42 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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http://platformlondon.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Hague.jpg
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a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:46 (nine years ago) link

none of them, not even Howard, make animals howl uncontrollably in their presence tbf

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link

Just interjecting so I don't bookmark old shiny gammon face.

leave the web alone boys (suzy), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 12:00 (nine years ago) link

Gove apparently thinks Osborne can be PM. Anyone but Boris will do for a lot of them though.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 12:23 (nine years ago) link

Gove might be the next editor of the Mail, so..

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link

Gove would genuinely be an improvement upon Dacre.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link

Ah, but apart from Cameron, obv, that list of pictures were a bunch of blokes that were allowed to be Conservative leader because there wasn't any hope of being in govt. Once there was, there was a bunch of scramble to get the leaders job.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link

also allowed to be Conservative leader because not enough of the party could stomach Portillo or Clarke and those three were thought to be slightly more electable than, say, John Redwood, was the impression I got?

soref, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link

All of them were elected in the hope that they would be PM... obviously.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link

No.

They were placeholders.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

You're overestimating the rationality of the Tory party here. I think a lot of them definitely thought that Labour 97 would be an immediate disaster, but they plumped for Hague because he wasn't one of their rivals, but I think they definitely saw him as a potential PM, at least at first. IDS was the product of rival factions splitting the vote between different and better qualified candidates. Howard was probably a placeholder, I'll give you that.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 08:25 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, that's the one I was primarily thinking of.

But IDS was, a bit, as well

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 08:27 (nine years ago) link

putting a round peg into a square hole bound to lead to irritable dowel syndrome

blap setter (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 09:22 (nine years ago) link

'Tarring of the Thatcher brand' - where could this go?

cardamon, Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link

It feels as though today's tories could pass off the paedo thing as being something old tories did, the ones who were Lords and not just ordinary hard-working blokes who are Lords

cardamon, Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

They"ll be giving Savile his knighthood back soon enough

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2014 06:39 (nine years ago) link

Love it

After the Guardian broke the news of the pair's resignation and the reasons they had given to Ms Tucker , she said she went away to look up the meaning of "occult". "It means that which is hidden," she said. "Nothing I do is hidden, nothing Glen does is hidden. It's all in the public domain. I have a website, Glen is very active on Facebook. There's nothing occult in what we do."I do call in archangels at times and in some of the meditations I do bring in archangels. Angels appear in all the major religions of the world."After the Guardian broke the news of the pair's resignation and the reasons they had given to Ms Tucker , she said she went away to look up the meaning of "occult". "It means that which is hidden," she said. "Nothing I do is hidden, nothing Glen does is hidden. It's all in the public domain. I have a website, Glen is very active on Facebook. There's nothing occult in what we do. "I do call in archangels at times and in some of the meditations I do bring in archangels. Angels appear in all the major religions of the world."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/30/ukip-resigned-occult-jake-baynes-graham-livings

dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link

what i take from this is apparently angels can be racist too

why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Thursday, 31 July 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link

"Everyone's got their different beliefs. It's not for me to belittle anyone's beliefs. People have different views. But if Ukip is trying to shake off this fruitcake image thing, we're not doing a good job of it."

a curious shade of pale (onimo), Thursday, 31 July 2014 09:11 (nine years ago) link

xp

I find it a bit odd – not bad, exactly, but curious – how little people seem to care about that coke/dominatrix period in Osborne's life.

woof, Thursday, 31 July 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link

I find it curious too, though I'm more than curious at why she was arrested for sharing the photo, and incredibly curious that this hasn't got more traction in the press.

The beer was cold, but so was the glass, which drives me crazy. (stevie), Thursday, 31 July 2014 10:01 (nine years ago) link

Yes, the use of the police to keep your problems out of the press is more concerning.

a curious shade of pale (onimo), Thursday, 31 July 2014 10:06 (nine years ago) link

The arrest may be unconnected. The police going round to 'have a word' is entirely feasible but actually arresting someone without valid cause would open them up to all sorts of repercussions.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 31 July 2014 10:10 (nine years ago) link

OK, did everyone get this annoying questionnaire from the Tories?

"Which THREE of the following issues are most important bla bla bla Immigration bla Tuition fees"

Well, I think it's pretty important that we have more immigration and no tuition fees. Is that what the poll setters meant?

Also one option is "welfare - rewarding hard work" which is pretty weaselly, where is the extra sheet of paper to specify whether a tick in the "welfare" box means "more welfare" or "only welfare for 'hard workers'" or "the very existence of welfare actively outrages me, to think that someone might be given enough money to buy brand-x baked beans out of the tax I could only partially dodge on my multi-million inheritance" or what

(also, yes, wtf at arrest)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 1 August 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link

Our policy: only people In work will qualify for out-of-work benefits.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 1 August 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

That's push-polling. It's actually illegal to frame poll questions thusly in America. xp

struwwelpeter capaldi (suzy), Friday, 1 August 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

When did you stop trying to bring down the government?

Mark G, Friday, 1 August 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

"Mr Clapson did not appeal or ask for a reconsideration of the sanction or apply for a hardship payment."

hardly the government's fault if people choose to do this to themselves

why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Monday, 4 August 2014 11:23 (nine years ago) link

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/03/the-british-jobs-miracle/

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how many of the people actually doing these miraculous new jobs professional journalist Fraser Nelson has bothered to speak to?

Matt DC, Monday, 4 August 2014 11:27 (nine years ago) link

(That's in response to Tom's link btw, the actual blog post is several months old)

Matt DC, Monday, 4 August 2014 11:28 (nine years ago) link

Would be interesting to know the percentage of people in work whose salary has kept pace with inflation over the last four years.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Monday, 4 August 2014 11:31 (nine years ago) link

hardly the government's fault if people choose to do this to themselves

Most people are not aware that they can appeal a sanction decision, or that they can apply for hardship payments. Job Centre staff are supposed to let people know, but they rarely do.

I only listen to Vantablack Metal (snoball), Monday, 4 August 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link

Clinically depressed people often have such dread of News In Brown Envelopes that they may not even open them, as it explains in the article.

struwwelpeter capaldi (suzy), Monday, 4 August 2014 11:53 (nine years ago) link

Surely Britain's Job Miracle should have put a spring into the step of this mopey fellow

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 4 August 2014 11:56 (nine years ago) link

hard to see what a change of government would do for clinically depressed people at the moment

why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Monday, 4 August 2014 12:03 (nine years ago) link

Since it wasn't actually a suicide I dunno if the Job Centre staff will get the usual bonus. PCS needs to get on that quick

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 4 August 2014 12:05 (nine years ago) link


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