DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

also anti-abortion, anti-equal marriage

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Loughborough-MP-Nicky-Morgan-explains-voted/story-18148357-detail/story.html

*slow hand clap*

i did really enjoy the ten minutes of GOVE OUT jubilation though

well i read the big thing in the mirror on sunday with the guy coming out saying he arranged underage rent boys for tories in the eighties... was told by a young hague & an unnamed civil servant to shut the fuck up and bury it.

XP wasn't Hague implicated in suppression of earlier paedophile related reports? that'd be enough rly

I'm skeptical of the Mirror story, or at least how much it will stick. But if true - the tarring of the Thatcher brand would also be destructive for the current Tories too, surely, no matter whether they've flushed the ranks of Thatcher-era MPs?

haven't seen the mirror story but this was from a few years back

Gove is way too new an MP to have been involved, his demotion is probably a result of unilaterally deciding to start a fight with Theresa May.

Yes. He is not of this Earth so can't imagine him being involved in any sort of hanky panky. Hague is another matter.

Latest Private Eye suggests, p plausibly, that Gove is being 'groomed' to take over as Editor of the Daily Mail from Dacre - he's been wined and dined a lot by Rothermere recently - so his conflict w/ May and demotion may actually be part of a larger exit strategy.

I can't really remember Hague having done anything egregiously awful as foreign secretary tbh, most of the major foreign policy blunders seem to have been Cameron's.

That's usually the way with Foreign Secretary/ Prime Minister.

Gove has definitely fucked kids tbf

The pix of Hague and Savile together are a bit ewwwwww and on the nose, but because of source, not linking.

His funny voice notwithstanding, Hague seemed like one of the more competent/less fucking enraging Tories.

I will always be grateful to him for doing his best to make the Tories unelectable during his time as leader.

Hague's 20-pints-a-night wildman image just too strong for dealing with sensitive Muslim allies

i did really enjoy the ten minutes of GOVE OUT jubilation though

trouble is that every time you think one of these monsters has been removed, there are 20 more greedy maggots fervently wriggling round in the wound left behind, gorged on pus, just waiting to burst out

This reshuffle suggests that the election campaign has started early - the election campaign for the next Tory leader that is - and that May has pulled ahead of Osborne.

not even the fucking Tories are stupid enough to believe that Osborne could ever, ever have the makings of a Prime Minister.

every time you think one of these monsters has been removed, there are 20 more greedy maggots fervently wriggling round in the wound left behind, gorged on pus, just waiting to burst out

plus removed to where

not even the fucking Tories are stupid enough to believe that Osborne could ever, ever have the makings of a Prime Minister.

― Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:42 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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none of them, not even Howard, make animals howl uncontrollably in their presence tbf

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Just interjecting so I don't bookmark old shiny gammon face.

Gove apparently thinks Osborne can be PM. Anyone but Boris will do for a lot of them though.

Gove might be the next editor of the Mail, so..

Gove would genuinely be an improvement upon Dacre.

Ah, but apart from Cameron, obv, that list of pictures were a bunch of blokes that were allowed to be Conservative leader because there wasn't any hope of being in govt. Once there was, there was a bunch of scramble to get the leaders job.

also allowed to be Conservative leader because not enough of the party could stomach Portillo or Clarke and those three were thought to be slightly more electable than, say, John Redwood, was the impression I got?

All of them were elected in the hope that they would be PM... obviously.

No.

They were placeholders.

You're overestimating the rationality of the Tory party here. I think a lot of them definitely thought that Labour 97 would be an immediate disaster, but they plumped for Hague because he wasn't one of their rivals, but I think they definitely saw him as a potential PM, at least at first. IDS was the product of rival factions splitting the vote between different and better qualified candidates. Howard was probably a placeholder, I'll give you that.

Yeah, that's the one I was primarily thinking of.

But IDS was, a bit, as well

putting a round peg into a square hole bound to lead to irritable dowel syndrome

'Tarring of the Thatcher brand' - where could this go?

It feels as though today's tories could pass off the paedo thing as being something old tories did, the ones who were Lords and not just ordinary hard-working blokes who are Lords

They"ll be giving Savile his knighthood back soon enough

some amazing stuff in this

http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2014/jul/28/-sp-bullying-hypocrisy-andy-coulson-reign-news-of-the-world-hack-attack-nick-davies

Love it

After the Guardian broke the news of the pair's resignation and the reasons they had given to Ms Tucker , she said she went away to look up the meaning of "occult". "It means that which is hidden," she said. "Nothing I do is hidden, nothing Glen does is hidden. It's all in the public domain. I have a website, Glen is very active on Facebook. There's nothing occult in what we do."I do call in archangels at times and in some of the meditations I do bring in archangels. Angels appear in all the major religions of the world."After the Guardian broke the news of the pair's resignation and the reasons they had given to Ms Tucker , she said she went away to look up the meaning of "occult". "It means that which is hidden," she said. "Nothing I do is hidden, nothing Glen does is hidden. It's all in the public domain. I have a website, Glen is very active on Facebook. There's nothing occult in what we do. "I do call in archangels at times and in some of the meditations I do bring in archangels. Angels appear in all the major religions of the world."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/30/ukip-resigned-occult-jake-baynes-graham-livings

what i take from this is apparently angels can be racist too

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/woman-arrested-for-posting-photo-of-george-osborne-at-prostitutes-flat/

"Everyone's got their different beliefs. It's not for me to belittle anyone's beliefs. People have different views. But if Ukip is trying to shake off this fruitcake image thing, we're not doing a good job of it."

xp

I find it a bit odd – not bad, exactly, but curious – how little people seem to care about that coke/dominatrix period in Osborne's life.

I find it curious too, though I'm more than curious at why she was arrested for sharing the photo, and incredibly curious that this hasn't got more traction in the press.

Yes, the use of the police to keep your problems out of the press is more concerning.

The arrest may be unconnected. The police going round to 'have a word' is entirely feasible but actually arresting someone without valid cause would open them up to all sorts of repercussions.

OK, did everyone get this annoying questionnaire from the Tories?

"Which THREE of the following issues are most important bla bla bla Immigration bla Tuition fees"

Well, I think it's pretty important that we have more immigration and no tuition fees. Is that what the poll setters meant?

Also one option is "welfare - rewarding hard work" which is pretty weaselly, where is the extra sheet of paper to specify whether a tick in the "welfare" box means "more welfare" or "only welfare for 'hard workers'" or "the very existence of welfare actively outrages me, to think that someone might be given enough money to buy brand-x baked beans out of the tax I could only partially dodge on my multi-million inheritance" or what

(also, yes, wtf at arrest)

Our policy: only people In work will qualify for out-of-work benefits.

That's push-polling. It's actually illegal to frame poll questions thusly in America. xp