Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

haha nah she's fucking terrible of course but what do you expect from the fucking guardian

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

all of these things seem almost aleatoric? like that writer with the britpop thing hogan or whatever he was called, there doesnt seem to be any sort of organizational/discriminatory intelligence at work, random proletkult / news / content signifiers thrown together, every single one of them will have tweeted some variation of suarez & food this week, how would one even go about hiring someone writing in this genre

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

Michael Hogan @michaelhogan Jun 25

Dunno why Suarez is getting so much grief. Who hasn't fancied a bite to eat and opted for an Italian? #WorldCup

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

this is pure SEO-as-reportage, the dismal final frontier of journalism

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

the lowest common denominator of comment. these people are simply machines of the news agenda at its most brutalistic

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

yeah im glad there are still people ready to get upset about content under late capitalism or whatever you but im more just drawn to how little specialist aptitude is required for a writer on pop culture, music, tech, football, etc, surely 80% of the white people in london 22-40 could do this work

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

these people sucked the right cocks, went to the right schools, knew the right m8s, and probably had (very) slightly more sophisticated content published in some guise at some point (university magazines lol)

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

we kinda need suzy to explain tho

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

i mean, there's the possibility they worked incredibly hard to build up blogging/article portfolios & networked like fuck to achieve these positions no matter their background, so well done them, now look what they're required to do, regression to pigshit, idk

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

doesn't keep me up at night

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

lj i think your latterday male feminism is slightly undermined once u suggest female journalists get their jobs from prostituting themselves

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

I would imagine a lot of it is down to having the patience and confidence to keep pitching ideas until one gets accepted. If I had the time and inclination to propose this stuff to a variety of national newspapers five times a day, 365 days a year, knowing that the vast majority of the time it would be knocked back, I could be making that £82 a week too, but it is a hard grind.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

its not like u could argue there is some underprivileged person who could do their work better than them because there is no level of achievement here, they are all exactly as competent as each other

and yeah sharivari probably gets it with the £82.....most of these people presumably dont earn very much at all so the question of who works in this field is either who is psychotically committed to content farming or who has other income streams

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link

Rhiannon Cosslett still talks about temping to make ends meet. Even the successful bloggers are going to have irl jobs, for the most part.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link

the sad thought is that it's probably mostly ppl who grew up w/ journalism aspirations who still long to be intrepid correspondents in a world where the press has utterly collapsed

Mordy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link

like it's kinda a calling

Mordy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link

the question of who works in this field is either who is psychotically committed to content farming or who has other income streams

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difficult listening hour, Thursday, 3 July 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

lj i think your latterday male feminism is slightly undermined once u suggest female journalists get their jobs from prostituting themselves

― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:49 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i was talking about michael hogan here too, while alluding to the overly patriarchal nature of newspaper journalism

and it's a metaphor of course ;)

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

slightly affronted u called me on that tbh

which was retweeted by (imago), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link

that wasn't the post I fpd u for ITT fwiw xxx

cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

the sad thought is that it's probably mostly ppl who grew up w/ journalism aspirations who still long to be intrepid correspondents in a world where the press has utterly collapsed

― Mordy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 19:59 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like it's kinda a calling

― Mordy, Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:00 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sector doesn't really have anything to do with anything that highminded

doesnt seem likely that stuart heritage decompensates in a panic during his oscars drinking game liveblog wishing he was writing about the sri lankan civil war

even if he does, cultural pessimism arguments don't seem that persuasive after that very lengthy and grave coates reparation article got record pageviews and serious traction all over the place

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

Aleatoric.
Aleatoric?
Aleato-ric?
Alea-tor-ic?

Sufjan Grafton, Friday, 4 July 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link

Lucy Rhiannon Cosslett is probably the worst writer in history

online hardman, Friday, 4 July 2014 08:57 (nine years ago) link

speaking of...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br4KHIlIQAElEV-.jpg:large

ey, Sunday, 6 July 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

A few posts above you

Towards A New Novel (and it sucks and whatever) (wins), Sunday, 6 July 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

But yeah, Jesus. I couldn't finish it

Towards A New Novel (and it sucks and whatever) (wins), Sunday, 6 July 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

Haha, oops! So bad it had to be posted twice.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 6 July 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

a few weeks ago, a Harvard historian had the temerity to ask if Emperor Christensen had any clothes. Writing in the New Yorker, Jill Lepore gave The Innovator's Dilemma the kind of unsympathetic third degree to which historians regularly subject the books of their professional peers.

badg, Monday, 14 July 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

first paragraph shows complete misunderstanding of innovator's dilemma, didn't continue any further. econ's a social science so picking it apart shouldn't be difficult (that's why the word 'social' is there, to let you know it's not actually science) but these lazy motherfuckers aren't up to the task. it's like watching a snail fail to outrun a tortoise.

balls, Monday, 14 July 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

Quiz: What type of Facebook user are you?

caek, Monday, 28 July 2014 10:29 (nine years ago) link

A 29 year old on being 29 years old: "being 29 is great!"
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/05/29-perfect-age-friend

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 09:45 (nine years ago) link

lol "Daisy Buchanan"

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:08 (nine years ago) link

Tomorrow: Simon Legree writes on Intersectionality and Privilege Checking

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:11 (nine years ago) link

Blimey - that's poor, even by guardian standards.

Comfrey Mugwort (Bob Six), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link

i wish comment wasn't free

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:54 (nine years ago) link

"why being young is great and not terrible like you thought"

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 10:56 (nine years ago) link

Since when was 29 young?

We cry crows craws (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link

about the last 10 years in my case

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link

I am 29, and I am young.

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

it helps to not read the guardian tbh

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

Amir Khan feeds his muscles with MaxiNutrition protein when training and competing #feedyourmuscles www.maxinutrition.com

dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link

I can remember when the Guardian started following the tabloids in having shitty, asinine interviews with non-entities in the sport section but also started supplying extra sponsorship details below the article. Like Michael Owen wears Nike predator mk2 whatever whatevers because he is a cunt

xelab, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

Oh wow I thought this was a strange one-off. I guess I don't read the sports section that often.

dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

It has been going on for years.

xelab, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

been going on for three/four years certainly. seems it can be difficult to get access to players these days without promising to mention a sponsor (saw journos complaining about this for cricket a while ago).

wonder if this came out of the - more laudable? - requirement to promote charitable work when doing an interview (such and such was interviewed at an away day for inner city children etc) which I assume also came from clubs/agents and appears to have been going on longer.

Not sure what would happen if newspapers refused to do it, though presumably they find it difficult to hold rank like that.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 04:24 (nine years ago) link


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