ariana grande - my everything

i think it's a fun curveball and a bit of a risky maneuver for a song clearly plotted as ariana's world domination

it seemed pretty inevitable and unsurprising to me. i mean "talk dirty" et al are still blanketing the radiowaves.

i still like it though.

"problem" is like roar where i can totally point out all the bits and pieces its taking from different previous hits but by the umpteenth spin who gives a fuck

i also appreciate that none of the hooks from it that get stuck in my head have anything to do with iggy azalea

Yeah except "Roar" is the most garbage-ass garbage on earth

wait did we expel the majority of katy perry's other singles to another planet?

i like "Problem" a lot, there's like nothing at its center but they threw a bunch of ideas in a blender and mixed so fast you don't notice

"Problem," "Fancy," and "Roar" are the Scalia, Thomas, and Alito of current pop -- I hear them and want to drive my car into what's left of the Everglades.

wait do you prefer the reggae lite dudes

"problem" is laaaaame + "roar" is amazing

it seemed pretty inevitable and unsurprising to me. i mean "talk dirty" et al are still blanketing the radiowaves.

― dyl, Monday, June 30, 2014 5:32 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

i was talking about the whisper specifically

i seriously have no idea how you can like ariana grande but hate "problem" ... doesn't compute for me

eh it's not a huge departure from the first album but i think the differences are self-evident

I'd like "Problem" a whole lot more if she got rid of the two guests.

In fact in general her songs are better without guests imo. Weeknd and Childish Gambino on the album :blech:

a few of the best albums of the decade have the weeknd and childish gambino on them, we'll survive

but how many of them will have Iggy Azalea

i have a feeling we'll have about two years to find out

tbh childish gambino's "3005" is pretty dope except for the corny punchlines, and it's about to become huge

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6141123/ariana-grande-my-everything-track-list-the-weeknd-big-sean-aap?utm_source=twitter

"My Everything" is due out Aug. 25, and will feature production from Ryan Tedder, Benny Blanco, Max Martin, Rodney Jerkins, Oak & Pop and Harmony & Tommy Brown. "I never thought I'd be able to say this, but I love this album five times as much as I love 'Yours Truly,'" Grande told Billboard in April. "They're different, but I love this one so much more."

problem's problems are that iggy azalea exists and that ariana secretly doesn't sing it well. it seems like a desperate attempt to blow her up into a massive pop presence instead of a semi-niche presence. which is probably necessary nowadays but still. i'm worried this record is gonna be entirely blaring-production covering her attempts at singing via whisper-shout and then like 3 ballads where she's allowed to show off

She previewed two other tracks that seemed fairly subtle in comparison to Problem's production, but only one of them made the standard tracklist.

if Oak & Pop and Harmony Samuels are involved there should be at least 2 songs i enjoy

rip the rascals

people got to be free

i will never forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdZl59kyvkQ

5 features not including the producer features seems like a bit much, especially with them all right next to each other like that.

― Greer, Monday, June 30, 2014 12:56 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this seems like a pretty standard ratio for an event album? and as far as selection it has asap ferg where it could've easily had macklemore. her breakout single was with mac miller. the features smack a lot less of label trying too hard to blow her up than i might have expected really

It's not Ferg that's the problem. IDK it's more the idea that Ariana is a big enough star in her own right now, she shouldn't need seven feat.s to get people to buy her album

Pretty sure everybody needs seven feat.s to get people to buy their albums

tbh childish gambino's "3005" is pretty dope except for the corny punchlines, and it's about to become huge

Idk it's very 1st verse Big Sean 2nd verse Chance

features don't really sell albums and haven't in like 10 years. it's more of a psychological thing, artists and labels think that's just how you have to make an album and it becomes an easy talking point.

Pretty sure everybody needs seven feat.s to get people to buy their albums

adele to thread

meanwhile

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/jessie-j--ariana-grande--nicki-minaj-bang-bang-world-premiere-july-29-265347111.html

"In what is sure to be the musical event of the year, international superstars Jessie J + Ariana Grande + Nicki Minaj have collaborated for the powerhouse anthem "Bang Bang" out July 29 via Republic Records."

-_________-

maybe ariana grande just likes rappers on her songs

if anything having a rapper on your song would make it harder for you to sell albums to a crossover audience so i don't think that's the strategy

yeah I mean look at what happened to Mariah Carey

ariana grande is definitely, above all else, just a millennial whose idea of good rappers is big sean and mac miller.

i mean, we're talking about someone who memorized every line of "Guap."

wait what do i have to do with this

lol

sarge's guide tape

i once almost listened to more than 30 seconds of "3005" but corny punchlines make up basically the entirety of the lyrical content so i couldn't

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2udxagx.jpg

quite the who's who

wow. the Year of Ma$e continues.

Ryan "Ryghteous" Tedder

oh boy, Childish Gambino on a Biggie beat. i'm guessing "Mo Money Mo Problems"?

guetta :(

Idk it's very 1st verse Big Sean 2nd verse Chance

― The Reverend, Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:01 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's totally derivative dont get me wrong.

The intro will probably be the best track.

The Cashmere Cat credit was not expected.

My only issue with Brad's position here is that by omission it implies that "Knew Better / Forever Boy" is ignorable (though obv that is the one bonus track that could never be a single so I get it) whereas I want a billion more examples of chart pop that is structured like Yes circa Close To The Edge.

none of the bonus tracks scream obvious single to me in a way "greedy" does though

true "greedy" sounds like a kpop song from 2011

i didn't like this album that much but my appreciation for "side to side" has grown as it's become more ubiquitous so maybe i should give it another spin

whereas I want a billion more examples of chart pop that is structured like Yes circa Close To The Edge.

Hi

as hymns to busting a nut go i'd have thought side 2 side was the ctte tribute

wrist icicle ride dick bicycle / i get up, i get down

all these bitches flows is my minimoog

Lol the only reason I was scrolling thru this thread was in search for some clue as to why S2S hadnt been nominated for tracks poll yet

"bad decisions," "touch it," and "thinking bout you" are like the three best pop songs i heard this year. all bonus tracks

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, December 12, 2016 12:29 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

someone pointed this out to me a few years ago but technically "bad decisions" and "thinking bout you" aren't bonus tracks. "sometimes," "i don't care," and "touch it" are though! (as well as the perfect "knew better/forever boy," tim otm upthread). it's weird. amazing record though, her best and it's not close, wish someone had made an actual thread for it

"Sometimes," "I Don't Care," and "Touch It" are all included on the "North American standard edition" (they're omitted from the "International standard edition").

(Same w "Knew Better / Forever Boy")

so the north american standard edition is the international deluxe? literally none of these distinctions have made any sense wrt to this record. whatever it's a 55 minute pop prog masterpiece

Seems that way -- yeah it's weird. (I have the Target Edition, which adds "Step on Up" and "Jason's Song"; which are both good, but very much feel like "bonus tracks").

and of course "focus" is a bonus track in japan

completely agree with brad that dangerous woman is easily her best album, "into you", "greedy", and then that amazing run at the end of "bad decisions", "touch it", "knew better/forever boy" and "thinking bout you" are all incredible. the only moment i don't really like on the album is that weird "la-la-la" bit at the start of "sometimes"

"be alright" and "let me love you" are two of my fav songs of hers

the transition into "forever boy" and that song is amazing

yeah, I think it’s the best “musically” of all her albums. but it’s also the weakest lyrically – a lot of basic lyrics around the same, one-dimensional bedroom theme (“Greedy” probably worst offender)

i would rank her albums

1. thank u next
2. yours truly
3. my everything
4. dangerous woman
5. sweetener

"Knew Better / Forever Boy" -> “Thinking Bout You” are an astonishingly great album closer pair.

“Thinking Bout You” sounds like the 1980s exploding in the distant past, and the event horizon suddenly washing over 2016 in a beautiful, melancholy rush of incandescent fractals.

dangerous woman
thank u next
yours truly
sweetener
my everything

a lot of basic lyrics around the same, one-dimensional bedroom theme (“Greedy” probably worst offender)

nah i love that this record is extremely horny

It’s not so much the “good girl gets ‘dangerous’” theme in itself (although that does get old) as that the lyrics of those songs are kinda corny, and sound like Max Martin at his Max Martin–est.

Like I love “Bad Decisions,” but the line You've become my favorite sin — it’s distractingly “songwriter-y,” no one talks like that outside a Swedish recording studio.

...of course, the same song also features That Bridge, which perfectly sums up / restates the album’s theme in one killer verse:

Don't you know I ain't fuckin' with them good boys?
Know you love me like ain't nobody could, boy
If you want it, boy, you got it
Ain’t you ever seen a princess be a bad bitch?

(AG has a credit on the track, and I’d love to think she wrote those bridge lyrics herself — it sounds like her “voice” — but that may be too good to be true.)

thank u next
dangerous woman
yours truly
sweetener
my everything