Jimmy Saville is still alive...

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Rolf found guilty on all counts, and the judge hints he'll do time.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Monday, 30 June 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

Guessed as much..

Mark G, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link

Amber was all, like, "nooo., I wanted him to do my portrait one day"

I said he's already done Lily Cole, and she said that's why..

(Summary: More people were hoping it wasn't true about Rolf than any other one)

Mark G, Monday, 30 June 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

uggghhh
"Now you, watching from afar, might say ‘Look at those young girls throwing themselves at him’, whereas in actual fact it’s exactly the opposite. I am of no interest to them, except in a purely platonic way."

kinder, Monday, 30 June 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

"He is very keen on reason, very distrustful of emotion: he boasts often of his “logic” and his membership of Mensa." -- early Redditor

(A bit far? I suppose so. Posting it anyway to regret it later.)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 30 June 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link

Xpost I dunno, any 'old bloke' DJ would have said much the same thing. Apart from deflecting (or not answering) the question "Yes, but would you be interested in them?" there's nothing terribly 'obviously evil' in what got written..

Mark G, Monday, 30 June 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

Touring the Stoke Mandeville wards with him is a disconcerting experience: when he coos over a young woman paraplegic “A-ha, now I can have my way with you, my dear!” one can only pray that she appreciates the joke.

Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 June 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

"One can only hope that he is only joking, this time"

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 06:39 (nine years ago) link

"When she died she was all mine. The best five days of my life were spent with the Duchess when she was dead. She looked marvellous. She belonged to me. It’s wonderful, is death."

AAAAAGHHHHHHHHHH

lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 08:54 (nine years ago) link

is there an investigation into police complicity with Savile? Stories from the Yorkshire end especially seem to imply real corruption.

woof, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link

plot of next David Peace novel amirite

goth colouring book (anagram), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 09:56 (nine years ago) link

plot of previous Peace novels too

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 10:03 (nine years ago) link

Now you, watching from afar, might say ‘Look at those young girls throwing themselves at him’, whereas in actual fact it’s exactly the opposite.

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 10:12 (nine years ago) link

would have liked a Gordon Burn true crime book on him.

woof, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 10:32 (nine years ago) link

my god that would've been a grim read

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link

An item from the local rag on the libel case in which a local police officer won 60 grand in damages for guilty by association allegations made against him via a twitter account and the uPSD web site. I don't feel entirely comfortable with the outcome or the manner in which these "activist" types conduct themselves.

http://www.dewsburyreporter.co.uk/news/regional/damages-win-over-savile-link-claims-1-6696682

festival of labour (xelab), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Yorkshire Ranter on the Leeds hospitals and Savile:
http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2014/06/28/genuinely-evil/

woof, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 11:06 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Sir Cliff Richard's home searched by police or

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 14 August 2014 12:11 (nine years ago) link

His name popped up in that pedophile b&b list from the 1980s.

how's life, Thursday, 14 August 2014 12:23 (nine years ago) link

The Young Ones should have been afraid after all.

FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 August 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Dave Lee Travis found guilty of indecent assault

goth colouring book (anagram), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Anyone read Dan Davies' Savile biog In Plain Sight? Started it over the weekend and it's captivating and horrible.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 3 November 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

Getting interesting. Apparently concerning the 'suicide' of the woman who ran the guest house where all sorts of shenanigans are alleged to have occurred.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link

there is an awful lot of rumour floating around about just how much horrible stuff was/is going on involving members of the establishment. it feels kinda telling that the government can't seem to find someone to lead the inquiry who isn't compromised by association with questionable characters.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 14 November 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link

By 'questionable characters' you mean ministers in Her Majesty's Government et al.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

yep

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 14 November 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

That says more about the shallowness of their pool of potential leaders than anything else.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Someone both Great and Good

two weeks pass...

I keep coming back to that Spitting Image sketch. It is funny, but at the same time I think it plays to the false persona that Saville created for himself, that he was just a bit of a harmless loony with a lot of money. Practically every comedy sketch ever written about him prior to the allegations was the same, always showing him as an eccentric but non-threatening character who makes weird noises and runs a lot of marathons, etc - never creepy, perverted or violent. Perhaps there were unavoidable legal reasons for that, but it does feel like the media of the time was(unwittingly) responsible as for propagating the lie of the great philanthropist that allowed him to carry out his horrible deeds undetected.

God, even the title "Jim'll Fix It" has sinister implications in hindsight. I wonder how many people got "fixed" during his nightclub years?

Pheeel, Monday, 1 December 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

Former Manchester DJ Ray Teret, a friend of Jimmy Savile, is convicted of seven rapes and 11 counts of indecent assault.

Mark G, Friday, 5 December 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

i finally got around to finishing that savile biog i mentioned upthread after putting it down for a while out of sheer horror. it's a worthwhile read for sure but it feels frustratingly incomplete - savile was so successful at eliding the real facts about his life that a lot of obvious questions can't be answered.

it's staggering that he managed to be a beloved eccentric public figure and a longtime friend to the establishment (he was charles and di's unoffical marriage counsellor ffs) while apparently making little effort to hide the fact that he was a serial abuser - so many people seemed to know about it while it was happening.

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 5 December 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

For some time now, despite intimidation and threats from the Police and Scarborough Borough Council, the North Yorks Enquirer has been pursuing the truth.

We have consistently alleged that there was a major paedophile-ring operating in Scarborough from 1947 until about 2009 and that it included Jimmy Savile and Peter Jaconelli, the Mayor of Scarborough. We have alleged that his ring was the most successful paedophile ring in British criminal history, was connected to the Westminster paedophile ring, operated far beyond North Yorkshire, had international connections and was involved in trafficking and enticing young people into prostitution. It was successful because Jaconelli was protected by North Yorkshire Police, because he was a Scarborough Borough Councillor, County Councillor, millionaire businessman, Mayor, leading Scarborough Citizen who was a School Governor and ran the local Judo Club.

Operation Hibiscus, the investigation into these allegations, has now reported. North Yorkshire Police has now been forced to publicly admit that the most successful and longest-running paedophile-ring in British criminal history peacefully co-existed with North Yorkshire Police in Scarborough for forty years. It included Britain`s most prolific rapists and sex offenders Jimmy Savile and Peter Jaconelli, was connected to the Westminster paedophile-ring and operated openly with the full knowledge of North Yorkshire Police. The Force’s failure to arrest any of the members over the course of fifty years of relatively open offending, despite numerous complaints and reports, was inexcusable, a national scandal and deeply corrupt.

We believe that, over the course of its existence from 1947 until about 2009, the ring had thousands of victims and was much bigger and worse than the Rotherham or Rochdale rings.

http://nyenquirer.uk/operation-hibiscus-truth-not-whole-truth/

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 19 December 2014 11:53 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Yo deladi hoo

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link

first coming.

how's life, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

Now that all these guys are (presumably) out of their pederasty hey day, who are the new generation of high powered deviants? Or is it something particular to middle aged white men in the 70's and 80's that caused them to act in this way?

Apologies as you've probably touched on that before itt but I'm not looking to delve too deep into this.

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link

Well, there's that Lostprophets guy...

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link

Fred Talbot's QC has suggested that Ian Brown's has let his imagination 'run away' from him, when he describes being pupils shown an indecent film by the teacher who engaged in inappropriate chat with them.

"What do you think I get from it?", the star angrily replied. "You don't think I've got better places to be? You're the one being paid to defend him, I'm not.

"You're getting paid to ask questions - I'm not getting paid by anybody."

2.50pm
The defence suggest Ian Brown blames Fred Talbot for the failure of his biology O Level. "I couldn't care less", said the musician.

piscesx, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link

Oh, this is going to be his finest hour since Reading Festival!

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link

Ian Brown's

kinder, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

ar

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

i am no legal eagle but that seems like first rate defence work. i can't believe a day goes by that ian brown doesn't wonder how different life might've been with that biology o level.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link

Don't know whether he's guilty or not but I always detested that cunt, Fred Talbot.

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Really? Strong words.. He wasn't in the Tory Cabinet was he?

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

Being a wacky weatherman almost as bad. What a character eh?

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link


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