2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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or something like that. man, i wish i had a transcript of that SNL skit.

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

every Republican surrogate, and even an analyst or two, was sure to note that she did in fact check off the 'smart' box. even Laura Bush was telling us what a 'quick study' she is, the other night, after Bill Clinton told us all about her 'instincts' or whatever.

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

they took away my stolen cable ;_;

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

re: davis' lobbying firm

couric: "isn't that a conflict of interest?"
palin: "........... again, [repeats answer to previous question]"

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Rasmussen
NC: Obama 49% McCain 47%

jaymc, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, Bubba - guy should just keep his mouth shut jeeezus

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

McCain suspends campaign, rushes back to DC for photo op

The markets have already factored in a deal: the Dow is up 200.e top congressional principles have essentially done the heavy lifting this morning, and the White House meeting later today has already been downplayed by Chuck Schumer as "photo op."

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

it is kinda amazing how badly McCain has managed to fuck up in just under 72 hours

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Palin doesn't seem stupid. She does about as well in that interview as any of us would if we'd never previously thought about any of the issues too.

caek, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Not if McCain votes against the bailout, though I'm not at all sure that politically that's a winner. But doing so would make more credible his distance from Bush, could gain him badly-needed populist cred, and could prolong the crisis so that the debates are postponed (and Palin thus gets more time to prepare).

the missing boy (Euler), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i seriously doubt that the debates are going to be postponed, unless 9/11 pt. 2 happens

Mr. Que, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I hope you're right, but the McCain campaign is winging it, and might grandstand Friday and just not show up.

the missing boy (Euler), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

no showing would be a big huge stupid blunder

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone catch the Smirking Lobster of Hope on "Today Show" this morning? He's unofficially campaigning for McCain, or at least wants him to win.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

McCain not voting on bipartisan solution to a national crisis will make him look like a complete asshole, his numbers will go in the toilet.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone catch the Smirking Lobster of Hope on "Today Show" this morning? He's unofficially campaigning for McCain, or at least wants him to win.

is he still talking about that happy little Down Syndrome kid who lives down the street?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

obama spoke at the Clinton Global Initiative too

akm, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

http://thepage.time.com/obama-remarks-to-clinton-global-initiative/

akm, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/bill-clinton-do.html

hes talking abt how mccains motivation for "suspending" his campaign is pure as the driven rain

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

About Joan Crawford McCain's histrionics:

"I presume McCain did that in good faith since I know he wanted — I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country, and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

cant tell if bill is: angling for a 2012 hillary presidency, still mad abt the primaries, crazy, or what?

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't really figure out why he's been on so many shows this week. was it because of CGI or some other reason?

akm, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

did none of you guys see Clinton on the Daily Show loudly & ringingly endorsing Obama? I know ppl are enamored of this "Clinton wants McCain to win" idea, but it's flatly untrue

J0hn D., Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah he did that at the convention too - at best the dude sends mixed signals and helps nobody, should shut his yapper imho.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Bill Clinton is a complicated man, and no one understands him but his woman.

the missing boy (Euler), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

man people still freak out over everything Bill Clinton says, don't they

Mr. Que, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Clinton was telling Larry King last night how he's going to get sent down to Florida to round up "The Cracker Vote" (his words).

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

bill has always held that you attack the other guy's ideas, not their motivations - he usually doesn't try to get inside other peoples' heads when making a political point. even in 2004, when he spoke at the nominating convention for kerry, he was quick to say that republicans are fine people, but they don't have the right ideas for the country. i.e. this is nothing new from him

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

The only positive thing I can think of that McCain might get out of 'suspending' his campaign, is that his decision will tend to dominate one news cycle. Also, it might briefly distract journalists from reporting his actual positions on the economy.

Aimless, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

did none of you guys see Clinton on the Daily Show loudly & ringingly endorsing Obama? I know ppl are enamored of this "Clinton wants McCain to win" idea, but it's flatly untrue

― J0hn D., Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:57 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

1 day after being called out by chris rock for not mentioning obamas name once on letterman

clinton is at the v least conflicted abt this campaign

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Clinton is also adept at the culture wars. He's 'Bubba' from Arkansas who isn't so elite (despite being a Rhodes Scholar) that he can't understand what the flyover people find attractive in Palin. I have no idea as to his sincerity, but I'm inclined to think it's sly of him to help diffuse the 'how-dare-you-librulls-attack-Sarah' resentment on the right.

Michael White, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

bill - he's a heartbreaker ain't he

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Bill Clinton is an asshole.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

diffuse or defuse?

s1ocki, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

both!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

d-fuse

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Alfred otm

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

He's also a huge fan of Peter Brotzmann. Doesn't quite balance out welfare repeal, the 1996 anti-terrorism act, the 1994 crime bill, racist shit while campaigning for Hils, etc. etc.

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

The only thing a young pol can learn from Clinton is how to to watch your self-regard curdle into self-delusion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

how does he watch that?

s1ocki, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

ah yes, who can forget bill clinton's infamous racism

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

stfu capn save-a-hilz

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I half agree with you Alfred but it does bear reminding that he is the only Democrat to win the White House in the last 30 years.

Michael White, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

WJ Clinton is like the Democratic Mike Huckabee

Cletus Tiffins (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

If that's how you win the WH as a "Democrat," you can have it. But let's not talk about unpleasant things.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

and what a glorious "win" it was, thanks to Ross Perot

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

it's nice to know you and morbius are on the same page about SOMETHING, ethan

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

ask ricky ray rector about clinton's racism. ask the NAACP who sued him in the 80s for failing to endorse the voting rights act in arkansas. ask the white voters he pandered to when saying "white people have to pay for black peoples problems because we lost".

and what, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

man people still freak out over everything Bill Clinton says, don't they

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Mr. Que, Thursday, 25 September 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link


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