OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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"more reminiscent of Barry Manilow than Barry Gordy" is too perfect

xp! :D

Kiss Screaming Seagull Her Seagull Her (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link

hah great minds etc.

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

I'd given him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he was referring to some obscure artist. There must still be some residual respect for the Voice floating around my brain somewhere.

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

this is the guy responsible for the 'black pop stars who should go country' piece that the vmg higher-ups slapped up on the voice's music blog immediately after my firing. good to know he's still churning out 'quality' 'content'

maura, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link

Think the guy meant "Barry Geordie," the John Barry of Newcastle.

That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

Maybe should have just made that a screenname instead of a post, as is my wont.

That's How Strong My Dub Is (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

Barry Geordie Gordy Obama

p sure that guy contributes to every DNC email with the subject line MAJOR DISASTER

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

suggest barry

dancing on the glass ceiling

macklemorange is the new wack (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

and the Piece Of Music Criticism Most Easily Mistaken For An Onion Article Award goes to

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

I guess it's the Ezra Klein way to accept received opinion and call it "controversy"

http://www.vox.com/2014/6/17/5814038/heres-why-lana-del-rey-is-so-controversial

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link

the phrase "even Pitchfork" appears in that twice

macklemorange is the new wack (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 June 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link

Indie-music blog Hipster Runoff labelled her the "most controversial broad in indie right now," saying that she carefully planned the hype around "Video Games" and was trying to trick the music world into believing that she was a self-made, American Dream Achieving, Indie-pop princess. Hipster Runoff split her coverage into two distinct camps (#teamlana and #efflana), with critics claiming that she was a poser and just a "failed mainstream artist."

franklin, Thursday, 19 June 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

I can't even express how pathetic that Vox piece is. Is the humourless recounting of ultimately irrelevant, two-and-a-half-year-old online debates a thing now?

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 19 June 2014 10:43 (nine years ago) link

you're soaking in it

Pew Nornographers (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 June 2014 12:57 (nine years ago) link

welcome to the world of "explainer journalism" by people who have read wikipedia

maura, Thursday, 19 June 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link

[ Interest over time ]

now awaiting FT article disputing kelsey mckinney's data

j., Thursday, 19 June 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link

HOW SNOOP DOGGY DOGG BECAME SNOOP DOGG AND OTHER SHOWBIZ TRICKS TO FOOL U

j., Thursday, 19 June 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

GWAR - real or fake?

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 19 June 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

Andrew W.K. - Steev Mike or Steve Harper?

franklin, Thursday, 19 June 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

Yo Vox Is it true Vordul got sonned by a wite kid after a aol beef?

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 June 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

"I do get that new releases on vinyl can get pricey – and therefore have the potential to create an elitist audience – but in a climate in which indie musicians can open for Radiohead and still not afford health insurance, anything that creates a way to bring real, live musicians closer to making monday off their work, so that that they can make more of it – hey, that's cool with me."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/21/vinyl-record-collector-sales-jack-white

scott seward, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link

can someone break that sentence down for me?

scott seward, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link

"So, even as yet another person in another underpaid creative field who is busy collecting probably one too many records, I'm happy to spend whatever I can afford."

that "even as yet" has got to go. you could probably learn that in a class somewhere.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 June 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

"Rainy Day Records up the block, however, was the platonic ideal of a local record store: half dozen or so boxes of 45s (sorted by new, used and local bands)..."

i hate those used bands. they are the worst.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 June 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

6 PEOPLE, 24 COMMENTS

whood
21 June 2014 12:56pm

I've just had a very nice avocado sandwich. Can I have a column, please?

scott seward, Sunday, 22 June 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

a golden oldie. I am not British so I don't know how long John Harris has been giving the music coverage in the Guardian a bad name, but this has to be a low point for the publication:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2007/jan/05/popandrock

noir-ish need apply (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 22 June 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

(Although it does use the word 'acme' in a sentence, which I rarely come across, so that's kinda cool I guess)

noir-ish need apply (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 22 June 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

John Harris continues to give music coverage in the Guardian a bad name to this day

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/20/warpaint-cate-le-bon-st-vincent-rocks-future-is-female

soref, Sunday, 22 June 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link

That funk thing by JH makes a worse case than the student item in the first post. I got bored into giving up before even managing to get to the offensive part in that women in rock one, but then I don't think I got past the first paragraph either.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Monday, 23 June 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

factual errors and questionable theses you can drive a boom clap through:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopfeatures/10905375/Is-Charli-XCX-the-new-Adele.html

katherine, Monday, 23 June 2014 05:30 (nine years ago) link

Casey Kasem, Ronald Reagan and music’s 1 percent: Artificial “popularity” is not democracy

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/22/casey_kasem_ronald_reagan_and_musics_1_percent_artificial_popularity_is_not_democracy/

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 June 2014 05:40 (nine years ago) link

A WHIFF OF SANITY in that Salon piece.

Christ, Casey Kasem as a fucking icon, and anyone who uses "centrism" re music needs a thrashing.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 June 2014 10:35 (nine years ago) link

I gave up/fell asleep when I got to the "centrism" bit. No point my getting annoyed about this or any of the linked Grauniad/Torygraph pieces because they are clickbait rather than proper music writing.

holy fucking fuck at that Noisey one - is Noisey one of the worst sites in history?

online hardman, Monday, 23 June 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link

Christ, Casey Kasem as a fucking icon, and anyone who uses "centrism" re music needs a thrashing.

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius),

The point about centrism is the pearl in the shit. The rest is drivel.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link

I have always liked "Bette Davis Eyes" fwiw

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

post clip of karaoke performance plz

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

The kasem challops thinkpieces that spawned that salon article seem equally shit though. There's nothing "brave" about what Casey Kasem did, he was a pop DJ, not a music critic. He performed the exact function he was supposed to perform, for lots of money. It seems revisionist in a REALLY confused way to imagine that he was the underdog in a battle against...I don't even know what. It's like, you might credit someone like a George Plimpton for allowing value to sports within "intellectual" culture, but Marv Albert is a sports guy doing a sports guy's job for a sports-loving public.

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

The headline on the Salon thing -- "Artificial popularity is not 'democracy'" -- is the plaintive cry of losing student-government candidates everywhere.

I admit I didn't read many of the Kasem appreciations, but the ones I saw were less celebrations of him as a musical force than nostalgic childhood reveries. I never had any illusion that Casey himself was the one picking the winners, or that the show was somehow a manifestation of his taste. He was just the friendly guy who showed up with that week's news.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 23 June 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

Hurting 2 otm, at least with regards to the Slate piece that originally used the word "centrist." I like Casey Kasem a lot; he seems like a good guy, and obviously had a great voice and a talent for using it. But that Slate piece envisioned him a poptimist warrior-analyst who fought the good fight against rockism for years.

intheblanks, Monday, 23 June 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link

He was just the friendly guy who showed up with that week's news.

This is sort of the same thing as lots of people thinking of TV news anchors as journalists. (Including some TV news anchors, I bet.) I much prefer the UK term "newsreader," because that's all they do - read the news that other people gathered, while making sincere/trustworthy/empathetic faces.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 23 June 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

Kasem didn't even like music

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 June 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link

these guys are from england and who gives a shit

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Monday, 23 June 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

I like Casey Kasem a lot; he seems like a good guy, and obviously had a great voice and a talent for using it. But that Slate piece envisioned him a poptimist warrior-analyst who fought the good fight against rockism for years.

― intheblanks, Monday, June 23, 2014 12:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Meanwhile, the actual good fight he fought has gone largely unremarked-upon in his obits: http://articles.latimes.com/1993-05-17/entertainment/ca-36376_1_aladdin-lyrics-magic

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 June 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it was cool to learn about his activism for better Arab-American representation in the media, including quitting the Transformers cartoon.

intheblanks, Monday, 23 June 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_sell_at_any_price_reviewed_by_sarah_o_holla.html

"What's the Right Way For a Woman To Listen To (Or Write About) Music?"

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Sunday, 13 July 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

I haven't read her blog in any detail, but that seems like a fairly reasonable piece.

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Sunday, 13 July 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link

presented here less as evidence of bad writing, more a continuation of earlier discussion itt. The contention that women music writers tried to "shout her down" seems over the top, treating a brief bout of criticism on Twitter like #cancelcolbert or something.

relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Sunday, 13 July 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link


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