2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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It might have been even better had he bothered to show up for even a single one of the 108 Senate votes that have been taken between April 8, when he last showed up, and today.

Last night Anderson Cooper pointed out that McCain missed more votes than the senator who's recovering from a stroke.

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean, don't get me wrong, major news orgs are absolutely complicit in packaging and selling the bullshit 'narratives' of this campaign, but the relationship between the campaign press and the campaigns themselves is a symbiotic relationship that's evolved over the last half century. if the mccain camp continues to violate the established (but tacit) ground rules about access and coverage, the press isn't going to just take it and then turn around and heap praise on him.

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

xxpost

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Does he usually wind the ad tapes himself? Does he go around to all the TV stations in order to say "I'm John McCain and I approve this message" in person?

lol

12HOOS2012 (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Some unreliable data on whether people want the debate to be on the economy: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportUC.aspx?g=54d651a7-a62b-4420-bb32-9dd6b2df8c02

Held as scheduled: 50%
Held but on economy: 36%
Postponed: 10%

caek, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

suspending his advertising is bizarre. Obama isn't going to do it, so McCain is essentially crippling himself. I can't fathom what he is thinking.

akm, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

at this point, i think tracer hand's estimation of free press might not be too far-fetched

will, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

he doesn't want to win, because whomsoever inherits the presidency is fucked either way?

is all i can think...

like a Song thrush on honey (stevie), Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw a McCain ad during The Today Show this morning, so I'm not quite sure what "suspending my campaign" means in a practical sense here beyond "look, I can fake like I care with the best of them" or "oops someone didn't get the memo re: not showing my commercials, lol"

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently they're still figuring out how to work the telling phone to let networks know the should suspend the ads.

caek, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

they

caek, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i read it will take at least 24 hours from yesterday afternoon to halt all the ad buys in the works, so by the time he relaunches his glorious campaign on friday morning in time for the debate, it'll be basically meaningless yeah

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

the palin interview is amazing--esp. the finger licking part

Mr. Que, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

The silence on the Corner about the Palin interview is amusing. One verrrrry brief Lopez mention.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, that interview

My favorite part (paraphrasing here):

Palin: You know, what I think is really interesting is that everyone has been waiting to see what John McCain has to say about this financial crisis. People don't care what Barack Obama thinks.

Couric (incredulous and barely containing her contempt): Well, actually, Barack Obama's poll numbers have gone up sharply since attention has turned to the economy, so on what basis do you say that?

Palin: Well, I don't pay attention to polls.

Yes! -- Certitude unencumbered by pesky facts! That's worked GREAT these last 8 years.

Hubie Brown, Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

John McCain, campaigning about how he's going to halt his campaign because there is no deal immediately forthcoming and they need him. What happens when a deal comes forth tomorrow, or whenever?

Assuming the debate is on, all this suspension stunt has done is raise the bar perilously high for his performance there -- if he can't come away from the debate looking like the hands-down winner, it's going to look he was running scared.

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

someone fucking w/intrade maybe http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/intrade-betting-is-suspcious.html

////////YAY\\\\\\\\ (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Yah

caek, Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Relative trends seem OK, but absolute values and short terms are off.

caek, Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Couric: [McCain] has been in Congress for 26 years and been head of the Commerce committee. When has he ever pushed for more oversight or regulation?

Palin: He's known as The Maverick.

Hubie Brown, Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

He's sucked dick all over the world.

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

joke from letterman:(paraphrased)

McCain said he'll not only cancel today's appearance, but friday's debate. So, you know, Obama will now have to debate Regis.

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

meanwhile on bbc news site, US economy and presidential race sonned by magicians and rappers, followed on quickly by irish economy and boring weather

MOST POPULAR STORIES NOW
1. Blaine back on feet after stunt
2. Rapper Rhymes detained at airport
3. US rivals in economy crisis talks
4. Irish economy goes into recession
5. Milder and drier winter predicted

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

sarah palin is like a malfunctioning campaignbot now

Edward III, Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

hey, you know what, fuck you, bill:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/25/happening-now-mccain-at-clinton-global-initiative/

"John Mccain said Thursday now is not the time to engage in presidential politics, in a speech at the Clinton Global Initiative."

"goole" (goole), Thursday, 25 September 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

i wonder if sarah palin (or any GOP surrogate for that matter) knows or cares that the word "maverick" is not, uh, wholly positive in its connotations

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

hey, remember when everyone described Palin as "smart"?

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

like it was objectively and self-evidently true?

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

no?

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean, she graduated from college, that's qualification enough. hey, it works for mccain, right?

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess you weren't watching the teevee during the ten days after her nomination

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

mccain: "is that actually true?"
producer: "well, we've interpretted universal as actually meaning the universe, so yes."
mccain: "that's good enough for me. 'i'm john mccain, and i approved this message.'"

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

or something like that. man, i wish i had a transcript of that SNL skit.

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

every Republican surrogate, and even an analyst or two, was sure to note that she did in fact check off the 'smart' box. even Laura Bush was telling us what a 'quick study' she is, the other night, after Bill Clinton told us all about her 'instincts' or whatever.

gabbneb, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

they took away my stolen cable ;_;

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

re: davis' lobbying firm

couric: "isn't that a conflict of interest?"
palin: "........... again, [repeats answer to previous question]"

little edie sedgwick (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Rasmussen
NC: Obama 49% McCain 47%

jaymc, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, Bubba - guy should just keep his mouth shut jeeezus

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

McCain suspends campaign, rushes back to DC for photo op

The markets have already factored in a deal: the Dow is up 200.e top congressional principles have essentially done the heavy lifting this morning, and the White House meeting later today has already been downplayed by Chuck Schumer as "photo op."

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

it is kinda amazing how badly McCain has managed to fuck up in just under 72 hours

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Palin doesn't seem stupid. She does about as well in that interview as any of us would if we'd never previously thought about any of the issues too.

caek, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Not if McCain votes against the bailout, though I'm not at all sure that politically that's a winner. But doing so would make more credible his distance from Bush, could gain him badly-needed populist cred, and could prolong the crisis so that the debates are postponed (and Palin thus gets more time to prepare).

the missing boy (Euler), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i seriously doubt that the debates are going to be postponed, unless 9/11 pt. 2 happens

Mr. Que, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I hope you're right, but the McCain campaign is winging it, and might grandstand Friday and just not show up.

the missing boy (Euler), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

no showing would be a big huge stupid blunder

\\\\\\\\YES//////// (ice crӕm), Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone catch the Smirking Lobster of Hope on "Today Show" this morning? He's unofficially campaigning for McCain, or at least wants him to win.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

McCain not voting on bipartisan solution to a national crisis will make him look like a complete asshole, his numbers will go in the toilet.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone catch the Smirking Lobster of Hope on "Today Show" this morning? He's unofficially campaigning for McCain, or at least wants him to win.

is he still talking about that happy little Down Syndrome kid who lives down the street?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 September 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link


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