even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

yes Queens is one's way of admitting one really doesnt want to live in NY

i thought that was long island

The G is going to stop at Nassau Ave for 5 weeks this summer, avoiding Queens at this point requires no explanation.

knee-jerk anti-queens hate is the only thing keeping it cheap so I guess I shouldn't complain

basically ppl try to sell me on Queens now with "you'll be close to the Mets!" ie i'm a celibate neo-retiree who only cares about baseball.

there are nice neighborhoods in queens w/ cheaper rents that are like 20 mins from manhattan, the mets are really not queens selling point for most people

no, it is a tailored pitch.

also FOOD is a big selling point, and i am the least foodie person on earth

i will not see anyone i know now in those nice neighborhoods

knee-jerk anti-queens hate is the only thing keeping it cheap so I guess I shouldn't complain

― iatee, Monday, June 2, 2014 11:23 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A year ago I would have said "OTM and SHHHHH" but now I'm an owner so everyone come on down to Queens!

well you probably hate them anyone xp

anyway

yes i hate everyone and everything

christ christ why am i on this board

i like queens! my first paying-my-rent apartment was in long island city and there are tons of great neighborhoods! i'm in bk solely because of my gal having a place here where i pay under 1k for my share of the rent.

there are also lots of nice parts of the bronx, I would probably move to the bronx over brooklyn at this point

Everyone I know who in recent years has moved to New York from Cleveland lives in Queens or the Bronx.

i have never been a fan of brooklyn but i have discovered that large swaths of it are still undiscovered unhipsterized portions. so of course i'm helping gentrify them now.

tbf tho the best borough is philly

i would move to harlem. one bedroom for 1800. looks nice!

http://www.riverton-square.com/riverton-square/

A 1BR for almost $2000 is way out of my league! Even if I had a partner, half of that would still be considerably more than I pay now!

But I'm cheap and willing to strike certain bargains to keep my rent under $800. Like my soul, possibly.

itt people who will sell their soul over moving to queens

i live in an awesome 3BR w/ tons of windows in a lovely, tree-lined neighborhood in boston for $1600, nyc is absurd.

feel weird typing that knowing that my relatives in cleveland are looking at the $1600 price tag thinking it's also fucking absurd

all ppl living in cheaper, nicer accommodations than me are otm

that seems way under market for boston

xxxp Can they have Indian food delivered at midnight? That's my not-entirely-serious standard for life.

xp yea you're right, it is

no one outside ny can have indian food delivered at midnight. stuff closes earlier in the diaspora.

xp so my shot is not entirely fair

nyc rents are absurd yes. there's a lotta culture (and jobs to support that culture) that are more accessible and pay better than in most other cities tho. And my areas of expertise, such as they are, may not travel that well.

like boston is roughly as expensive as the outer boroughs and does not have the benefit of being nyc so if anything boston rent is harder to justify than ny

Tbf our rent for what is arguably a 2.5-BR is like $600 under market rate too. It has serious drawbacks tho that we are just willing to live with for the space and the neighborhood. Like maintenance, which is nonexistent.

boston is 100x more attractive than outer boroughs though. outer boroughs are ugly as shit

The outer--what? Are you even talking about?

apparently has only seen Times Square

elderly female tenant was standing outside my bldg this weekend, shouting at a friend "I PAY $1350 AND THEY WON'T FIX ANYTHING!"

I PAY $1350 AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE

rent for my store + mortgage on my huge house is roughly the same as that one bedroom in harlem. western mass, bitches!!

location, location, location

that's why they say it 3 times

like i said, 75% of the time i don't understand why anyone lives in NY. i'd move to western mass in a second though

it's really not that mysterious why people live in ny

The thing about Brooklyn is that the cheap easy commutes to Manhattan are pretty much exhausted, but you'll probably also see more and more people working in Brooklyn.

I don't understand why I live in NYC either. I mean I do, but it's not because I like NYC.

benefits to living in NY: things are always open, good live entertainment every night, get all the movies, jobs in niche aspirational creative industries, lots of ppl, cultural cache of telling ppl you live in ny when you visit yr parents
downsides to living in NY: too expensive, it smells during the summer, lots of ppl, no good breweries, no good gaming shops

benefits to living in ny - has the only half decent public transit system in the country

*meekly waves Chicago flag*

new york is awesome. i would totally live there. if i were rich.

i mean yea, i understand why people live there, especially rich people or young people without kids. i'm just kind of being a dick. just saying for me personally it just has little appeal. it doesn't strike me as a livable city. there's no space. it's crazy expensive. it's hard to get around. the subway is gross as hell -- every ime i go i spend so much time underground and it's filthy and stinks so bad. it strikes me as a hellhole to live if you have a family. there is virtually no place to live that has a yard or even a porch unless you have shitloads of money. there is a lot to do but it costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time to get to it unless you live close it (e.g. have money to live in a good part of nyc.) wilderness and outdoors seem like another planet when you're there. so much concrete.

'there is virtually no place w/ a yard' is a feature not a bug

I was more into the idea of apartment living with kids before I had a downstairs neighbor who bangs on the ceiling at every noise

Also my daughter loves being outside but hates playgrounds for some reason. Granted we can take her to Forest Park, which even has little hiking trails and a pond and shit.