even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

These residents fear, often correctly, that if they lose their current berth, they will be forced not just out of the borough but out of the city, a move that may result in a longer commute and less family time.

A real concern there at the end, but the supposed justification for it is nonsensical. Steps from Central Park? Yeah, well...pick another park, New York has 1700 of them.

With a big dog, too!

Doctor Casino OTM. But then also rmde:

“And nails, eyebrows — they’ve gone out the window,” Ms. Dormand said. “I use box hair dye. I eat dollar pizza, and I’ve learned to like it."

I mean on $110,000 for 2 ppl and a baby, I'm sure it's true that their lives aren't "fancy," at all! No one kill me please but that's not a lot of money to stretch to life in the "west 90s" unless you're a true pro at stretching one dollar into several. I've couch-surfed up there, groceries are mfing EXPENSIVE at nearby stores. BUT THEN THEY NEED TO NOT LIVE STEPS FROM CENTRAL PARK IN THE WEST 90S.

xp lolololololololol

Also I feel like they were trying to make this poor woman sound like a complete ding dong here:

On May 11, Ms. Ordelheide packed up her guitar, banjo and other possessions, and set off for a cottage in Pompano Beach, Fla. — monthly rent, $1,345.

that is 5 dollars cheaper than my new york city 1br rent

Yeah, citing $1300 as some kind of shockingly cheap rent is classic quidag.

io you should contact that woman and tell her you'll do her nails at a discount.

What can we do? We must live our lives. [A pause] Yes, we shall live, Uncle Vanya. We shall live through the long procession of days before us, and through the long evenings; we shall patiently bear the trials that fate imposes on us; we shall work for others without rest, both now and when we are old; and when our last hour comes we shall meet it humbly, and there, beyond the grave, we shall say that we have suffered and wept, that our life was bitter, and God will have pity on us.

That woman is the person I try to avoid everywhere I go in this city (and why I stopped going to parties on the UES entirely). Twenty-somethings living in high-rise apts that are basically dorms now in a sanitized area full of ppl like themselves; sterile white boxes relieved only by flowered bedspreads and Vera Bradley totes and the fact that there's a koi pond in the lobby and a "fitness center" somewhere.

They'll get married and move to Park Slope in a few years and they'll be like "BROOKLYN! WHO KNEW!" and have two babies and few years after that they'll buy a house near their parents in Connecticut.

A+ slam on Vera Bradley bags

hasn't the upper east side always been like that?

110 k seems kinda low for greenpoint

xxp I know it's going to be a good day when I can work one in before 10am.

if you are young, willingly spending a high % of your income to live in the cool part of town is arguably justifiable, since your rent and entertainment budget are overlapping on some level, but if you're doing this by the time you're raising a family you're just an idiot. still if they weren't in manhattan I am sure they would be buying mcmansions and SUVs somewhere else that they also couldn't afford.

I have conflicting feelings about the family! On the one hand, they are idiots, and screw them for thinking they need to live steps away from Central Park and then complaining about how much it costs. On the other hand, fuck all the bullshit reasons that it is so expensive to live close to where they work and steps from Central Park. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to spend a large percentage of your day traveling to and from work.

Just you know ban capitalism.

Or intervene in the market, revive federal housing programs, revive Mitchell-Lama, build more rail lines and plant more trees, I don't know.

That's cool, too.

eh my commute is 30 mins door to door, depending on where you work parts of jersey / the boroughs actually have shorter commutes than some manhattan to manhattan. esp since the cheapest parts of manhattan are the furthest from public transit.

I recently tried to get from West 72nd to East 51st Street and it took me almost as long as commuting from Bed-Stuy! Depending on your exact commute, there's no guarantee that you don't spend at least 90 minutes a day in transit already. If that has to go up by 20 minutes but your rent goes down $1000 or more, do a CBA and let's move on.

Just you know ban capitalism.

― carl agatha, Monday, June 2, 2014 1:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Or intervene in the market, revive federal housing programs, revive Mitchell-Lama, build more rail lines and plant more trees, I don't know.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, June 2, 2014 1:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ilx otm

where the fuck can i buy this dollar pizza

They'll get married and move to Park Slope in a few years and they'll be like "BROOKLYN! WHO KNEW!" and have two babies and few years after that they'll buy a house near their parents in Connecticut.

― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, June 2, 2014 9:27 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol otm

the number of nytimes articles that are based on the theme of "BROOKLYN! WHO KNEW!" is astounding

you can buy dollar pizza on like every street in manhattan

it all tastes exactly the same but is often better than non-dollar slices because it hasn't been sitting under a heat lamp for 6 hours

I wonder what fucking year the NYT will notice that no one can afford a non-anxious lifestyle in Brooklyn either.

unless you know you are RICH (by io's def, have a bagel store in yr nabe)

move to queens

too tired

as much as new york is overpriced there are still exponentially more 'nice areas to live' here in 2014 than any other city in america

like if you are priced out of san francisco you are fucked

have to admit that 75% of the time i don't know why anyone lives in NY

unless you know you are RICH (by io's def, have a bagel store in yr nabe)

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, June 2, 2014 1:51 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You are either A) rich, or if not A then, B) white.

ah, there we go, guilty

http://www.2brospizza.com/

Krusty: No offense, kid, but your mom's a dingbat!  There's no silver
        lining here.  I was a big cheese.  A _huge_ cheese!  And now
        look at me!
        I got to ride the bus like a schnook.
        I got to live in an apartment like an idiot!
        I have to wait in line with a bunch of nobodies to buy
        groceries from a failure!
  Bart: It doesn't matter what you did wrong, though, as long as you're
        on TV people will respect you.
Krusty: [ spits ] Bah.  What good is respect without the moolah to back
        it up.  Everywhere I go I see teachers driving Ferraris,
        research scientists drinking champagne.
        I tried to drink a Coke on the bus, and they took away my
        pass!
         [ breaks a bottle of scotch ]
        That's no life for a famous clown.

Oh, so she wasn't talking about Totino Party Pizzas, then. That's a deprivation that no one should have to endure.

When I first read it, I assumed she meant frozen pizza on sale for $1.

have to admit that 75% of the time i don't know why anyone lives in NY

― marcos, Monday, June 2, 2014 1:54 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Because $1 pizza is still made by human hands in a restaurant/storefront and served hot.

in the old-world style

i'm around 100% in wondering these days

have you ever visited the rest of america it's a hellish landscape

oh I'm not buying America as an alternative... but we are now primarily where the helldwellers vacation and need their Applebee's.

cept the Pacific NW maybe

It's true. This is the view outside my office in Cleveland right now.

http://bluraymedia.ign.com/bluray/image/article/983/983290/terminator-2-judgment-day-skynet-edition-20090515002944819_640w.jpg

there's an applebees and a tgi fridays just out of view

few things stupider than nyc provincialism

NYC is its own kind of hell if you've been living here long enough to remember enjoying/affording most of the culture while working a "get-by" job.

and when so many fucking people didn't take the F in Brooklyn