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₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 June 2014 01:38 (nine years ago) link

Sorry for your loss.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 June 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link

<3

estela, Monday, 2 June 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

I've spent years advising students to drop this "the passing of my grandfather" twaddle.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 June 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link

"I was sorry to hear about your father" is almost as bad. It has this overtone of "Oh yes, you mean theah...dying business. Unfortunate, that."

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 June 2014 01:47 (nine years ago) link

"I'm sorry" will suffice.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 June 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

or better: a hug.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 June 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

I also hate saying "I was sorry to hear about..." because it's like "By the way, you probably weren't thinking about your loved one's death at just this moment, after grieving for the prior three weeks, but I need to remind you of it so that I can discharge my duties."

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 June 2014 01:50 (nine years ago) link

i never remind anyone of death, everyone will be reminded soon enough

balls, Monday, 2 June 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link

Valar morghulis

, Monday, 2 June 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link

lol

balls, Monday, 2 June 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link

Moment of silence.

Jeff, Monday, 2 June 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link

I still have in my drafts folder this long heartfelt email I wrote to a co-worker whose husband and nine-year-old granddaughter were killed by a drunk driver. I never sent it because every sentence begins with "I feel this way...." Or I want you to know..." In the end, I was just who cares what the fuck I have to say anyway. "Oh, pplains feels badly about two of my family members perishing on the Interstate on the same night. That improves things."

pplains, Monday, 2 June 2014 03:59 (nine years ago) link

...I can't think of anything to say to grieving persons, particularly ones I'm not very close to, that doesn't sound strained and uncomfortable.

― ₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Sunday, June 1, 2014 6:04 PM (2 hours ago)

...ever since then i don't worry so much about what i say as long as it's something.

― estela, Sunday, June 1, 2014 6:12 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this. little gained by overthinking. there are no perfect words, or even words at all, but "getting it right" isn't really the point.

riot grillz (contenderizer), Monday, 2 June 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah, I know. I mean my post had an implied "and therefore I just say the canned shit" at the end of it.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 June 2014 04:21 (nine years ago) link

When I was a freshman in college, my favorite English professor's mom died, and I was super intimidated by the guy because he was this towering bearded genius classic English prof dude, so after a lot of deliberation I picked out this blank card with a stark ansel adams B&W photo of a bunch of birch tree trunks or something and wrote something like "I offer my deepest sympathies in your time of grieving." I felt very proud when he thanked me for the card, as though I had demonstrated some kind of superior class and taste in my card choice and condolence method. It was an almost Hannah Horvath-like moment of self-involvement.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 June 2014 04:26 (nine years ago) link

lol dying

i hope you're sorry for my family's impending loss.

estela, Monday, 2 June 2014 04:33 (nine years ago) link

If you feel a need to console someone and wish to offer a sincere expression based in shared humanity, then don't fret over the wording, just be awkward if you must. If it's real, it's ok.

If your condolences aren't meant sincerely, but are just a matter of rote fulfillment of some vaguely felt social duty, then you'd best not venture on offering them, because that is how they'll come across and nobody needs to be the object of your empty gesture when they're in grief.

put 'er right in the old breadbasket (Aimless), Monday, 2 June 2014 04:42 (nine years ago) link

Estela,

I hereby reserve the right to express my deepest condolences to you and your family at an as-yet undetermined and hopefully distant time. I am truly sorry in advance.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 June 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link

after a lot of deliberation you picked out this blank card with maracas.jpg

estela, Monday, 2 June 2014 04:55 (nine years ago) link

I really thought that by thanking me he was trying to telegraph some kind of message to me like "I knew all along you weren't one of these run-of-the-mill mouthbreathers who picks out hallmark cards with loose pink cursive script," rather than just "It was nice of one of my students to think of me when I am very sad about the death of my mother." It seems so delusional to me now.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 June 2014 05:01 (nine years ago) link

See, I too tried to send that tree trunk pic as a condolence card once, but the family of Sonny Bono got real up in arms over it.

pplains, Monday, 2 June 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link

I used to get really jammed up about how to express sympathy like this but then at my last job, for whatever reason, a lot of close relatives of my coworkers (and some of my actual coworkers) died, to the point that it made sense to buy a box of sympathy cards and keep them at my desk, so I got a lot of practice, I guess. But it helps that I generally really AM sorry for this person's loss. Like really sincerely sorry, even if it's not someone that I eat lunch with every day or anything. It sucks when people you love die! That's an easy place to get, empathetically, I think. Then saying a simple, "I'm so sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my thoughts" doesn't feel canned at all, because I am sorry and they are in my thoughts.

The only sentiment I am careful to avoid is "I am sorry to hear about the loss of ______" because that sounds like what I'm really sorry about is that I had to hear about it, and not that the bereaved is going through a period of loss and grief. "I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your great aunt, because that reminds me of my mortality and the inevitable demise of every one and everything I love, and now I am super bummed out."

carl agatha, Monday, 2 June 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link

also pp you are the best, fyi

carl agatha, Monday, 2 June 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link

damn carl that's a grim-ass job

j., Monday, 2 June 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link

It was a grim job, but for other reasons. I think it was just a combo of aging workforce and some demographic considerations. When my grandfather died, I got like five sympathy cards, a few of which I recognized from the box I had so.

carl agatha, Monday, 2 June 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link

"genre-bending" -- it's such an irrelevant musical descriptor in 2014 and also I just don't like the sound of it

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 June 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

"sorry for your loss"

― nurse with attitude (get bent), Sunday, June 1, 2014 6:59 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ I have, several times, seen ppl posting abt the death of a "loved one" (phrase I also hate bcz it is EXCLUSIVELY reserved for ppl that have died and feels insincere as fuck) on Facebook and 10 or 12 people saying "Sorry for your loss" verbatim, with only differing capitalization and punctuation. IDK like if I'd seen the 10 ppl before me post the exact same thing I would try to come up with something a little more heartfelt.

aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link

no snark, promise, but from another perspective maybe the simple flatness of the statement conveys a sentiment better than worrying about how you look as the person condoling?

i've definitely experienced moments of "does this look rote?" but in the face of bereavement very often i'm not sure that anything more than "sorry" is really adding much emotion

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link

we can now analyze whether this breaks down across transatlantic lines and our varied attitudes to expressing emotion

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:44 (nine years ago) link

"it didn't like that" regarding a computer system not accepting someone's password, or basically any phrase involving a computer "not liking" something

aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:50 (nine years ago) link

xp I feel you; I think it's totally diff for everyone bcz when I am grieving, rote sympathies just piss me off (though I have realized recently that I am one of those ppl who just gets angry/frustrated/bratty in the face of death instead of just str8 up saddo)

aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:56 (nine years ago) link

it's probably totally individual and i'm sure lots of people don't rush to check their Facebook when they've just been bereaved so

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:58 (nine years ago) link

Facebook Friend: Mom passed last night. More details later.
96 people liked this.

pplains, Friday, 6 June 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link

I don't care if "liking" something is really just a signal of support, I will always picture 96 people rubbing their palms together and going heh-heh-heh over Susan's death.

pplains, Friday, 6 June 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

it's intriguing how "Like" has really ceased to signify approving of a thing for some time but Facebook are too megalomaniac to change it to a more appropriate term

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 June 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

You can always bring a little levity to the situation by posting "I AM TRUELY SORRY FOR YOUR LOTS"

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 June 2014 13:33 (nine years ago) link

GRIEVING CAT HAZ INVIZIBUL HANKURCHIF

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 June 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link

Any phrase that is paired with the word "wonk" makes me want to die.

building a desert (art), Friday, 6 June 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link

it's not so much that i want to die, but that i want to meet with an anti-matter version of myself and after exchanging pleasantries we decide to part ways and as we bid adieu we shake hands and the collision obliterates the planet and every memory of 'wonk' along with it and all that remains of 'wonk' is the quantity of radio bandwidth, which contains a smattering of 'wonk', that has already been scattered into the universe upon which i must rely on the laws of probability and the vastness of space to dispel into meaningless oblivion.

building a desert (art), Friday, 6 June 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link

well that's the same thing, for all intensive purposes

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 June 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

it's intriguing how "Like" has really ceased to signify approving of a thing for some time but Facebook are too megalomaniac to change it to a more appropriate term

― arid banter (Noodle Vague), Friday, June 6, 2014 9:22 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was also thinking it's weird how flat "like" is. Like there's no perceptible difference between a pity like, a tepid like, and an enthusiastic like.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 June 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

I've often wished I could "hate" certain posts

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Friday, 6 June 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

should be a range of response to select from and then a little bar chart compiling them

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 June 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link

You have no idea what someone actually means when they "like" a post but don't say anything else. Sometimes I just scroll through and barely even think about some of the stuff I "like" in my feed.

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 June 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

think it may have been brought up on ilx b4 but i rly hate seeing "baby" used singularly, generically e.g. headlines like "foods that are good for baby" argh grates so much

wenus villiams (qiqing), Thursday, 12 June 2014 04:17 (nine years ago) link

People still wonder how is babby formed, though

Josefa, Thursday, 12 June 2014 05:30 (nine years ago) link

Have we had 'peak' yet? As in 'We have reached peak beard' to describe a trend so prevalent it is about to fall out of fashion?

This is as opposed to UK street slang where 'peak' is used to mean 'egregious' or very obviously bad, a phrase I kind of love.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 12 June 2014 09:44 (nine years ago) link


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