The Basement Tapes Poll

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The comic book and me, just us, we caught the bus...

"Yea Heavy And A Bottle Of Bread" it is.

a golden unicorn who poops diamonds (EZ Snappin), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

impossible poll. went with "Too Much of Nothing" today.

and say, wasn't it Robbie on the lead vocal for "Yazoo Street Scandal"? that's what i remember Marcus saying in the liner notes, anyhow.

51 SBs and there's nothing on (Ioannis), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, maybe so! I'd always assumed it was manuel, because it's not uh horrible.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Monday, 9 March 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Sure sounds like Levon Helm to me, no?

Jazzbo, Monday, 9 March 2009 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Tree With Roots is a must, not only for the wealth of stuff that isn't on the official release, but because so many of the official songs were overdubbed by Robbie and some of the other Band members in 1974. Granted, the overdubs are pretty tastefully done, but there is something about those raw tapes...

tylerw, Monday, 9 March 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a lot more stereo separation on most of the "Roots" tracks, too. Garth Hudson did a magnificent job with the equipment he had at the time (only 3 mics, I believe), but you'd never know it from listening to just the official release.

Jazzbo, Monday, 9 March 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, the official release is kinda in mono, isn't it? wonder if this remaster will be improved, or what? but no kidding, Hudson made some of that stuff sparkle in a way that a million dollars worth of equipment couldn't have. Though I guess I've read that his set-up wasn't quite as bare-bones as some have later claimed -- he had access to a bunch of Dylan's state-of-the-art sound equipment from the 1966 tours.

tylerw, Monday, 9 March 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

it's always been my dream that there'll be some lost cache of Basement Tapes with them playing songs from John Wesley Harding ... as wonderful as that record is, sometimes I find it utterly insane that Dylan did not record it with the Band. There are a few wonderful examples of what they might've done with it on the Isle of Wight 69 bootleg.

tylerw, Monday, 9 March 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess there is a story of Dylan asking Robbie Robertson and Garth Hudson to overdub parts on to JWH, but Robertson said "No man, keep it pure." What a piece of shit Robbie Robertson is. And yet I love him.

tylerw, Monday, 9 March 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

hahah

51 SBs and there's nothing on (Ioannis), Monday, 9 March 2009 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

too many good ones, but had to go with "yea heavy". "open the door homer" a close second. "slap that drummer with a pie that smells."

clay, Monday, 9 March 2009 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

People call this record mysterious or magic; if so it's in the three-card-monte sense, working by diversion, misdirection, trying to confound understanding, to get the audience to enjoy being fooled. So much of this record is a tease, inside jokes and deliberate nonsense, bluffing and never showing its hand. I've bought books about this record and never read them, worried it would feel too much like watching dissection of a live subject; even if it survives, it'd be forever scarred, imprinted with someone else's take. Despite which here's mine:

A1. Always wanted to do a doublespeed punk cover. A2. Normal breakup song but paired with a let's work it out chorus. In the "beautiful beautiful" punch line, this guy reveals he can't stand to have things that aren't broken. A3. Pretty drowsy for a song about heaven, or a swinging party, which is as close as this record gets. A4 & A5. The party gets out of hand. Beyond care for morality, sex as cataclysm as rollicking good time, so bring on the flood, just go and pump on the well. A6. As told by the last one to know.

B1. Lays a few tricks on you -- hooks you by mentioning some unexplained shame, appears to have a narrative thread involving moose, but nothing is revealed. Still I'm prepared to accept as proven that Pittsburgh = Chicken Town, QED. B2. Feels too well composed to fit in with the Dylan songs, where the prevailing moods are off-the-cuff or overwrought. B3. Simple story of being caught acting like you're not just some kid, treated as an epic Saga. B4. This song choogles. B5. About getting so drunk you piss yourself. And yet somehow Mrs. Henry resists his amorous advances. B6. Dylan's most heartrending song and singing. Never seen anyone so enraged they cried -- grief yes, but rage? (Yes I know it's poetry.)

C1. I first heard this in Peter Paul & Mary's perversely cheerful version, but this song wants to be sluggish, drained. C2. Feels like the opposite of You Ain't Going Nowhere -- not just drifting along but in a mighty hurry. Like Lo and Behold, a Biblical title sends the singer all over the map, though in this case even with specific destinations named it feels like he's going nowhere (fast). C3. Loose and swaggering, ultimately reverential. When I was introduced to this record I was told "there's nothing like it" but including a cover song means it can't be wholly sui generis -- this ain't no old weird America they just dreamed up one day. C4. Taunting or teasing about friends washed away, either way adding insult to injury. C5. Everything feels buried in the mix by everything else: echoed vocals, drum thuds, plinked piano, carnival organ stabs, muted distorted guitar fills. C6. The only side that doesn't end with a devastation. Upbeat number with optimistic lyrics so naturally the backup vocals sound like the moans of glum zombies.

D1. Another song about people failing to get away with handing out BS lines to each other (or in this case, to themselves). D2. Our son's named Henry, and my parents sometimes serenaded him with Please Mrs. Henry, but never with Don't Ya Tell Henry -- is this song that unmemorable? Or did they just never make it to the second record? D3. A song this final should end a record, but they're not done shuffling the deck. D4. Can't break down why this song works so well, it doesn't particularly DO anything, it just IS. Chorus stays true to side 4's commitment to finality. Great draggy backup vocals. D5. Penultimate track is as good a place as any for a throwaway. Your basic blues number, good guitar but otherwise nothing special, though it cleanses the palate and clears the stage for D6. When the record DOES show it's emotions, as here, it knocks you out without even seeming to try.

Voting for Nothing Was Delivered.

dad a, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ great screen name

― WmC,

Thanks!

dad a, Monday, 16 March 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

The Band's "Basement Tapes" tunes were recorded significantly later and added to the mix by one J.R. Robertson

thirdalternative, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

ok liner notes say Helm is vocalist on yazoo street scandal. damned if the way he sings "stranded out in the night" doesn't throw me... but by the time he gets to "i just ordered a flood for forty days and forty nights" it all makes sense

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 19 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't have any quibbles with the voting, other than that the total number of votes is a fucking scandal. Hell, I voted twice.

WmC, Thursday, 19 March 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

"Clothes Line Saga" is really funny. Man, this LP was so over my head when I first heard it as a teenager.

Best tracks that didn't make the cut:

Silent Weekend
I'm Not There
Sign on the Cross

Johnny Hotcox, Friday, 27 April 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

C5. Ruben Remus 0

we're going to have to get some n00b to repoll this on accident because this result is just WRONG. incredible song.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

otm. A hypnotist, a fancy talker, Ruben Remus ain't no doctor.

The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link

and then, to add insult to injury, this is apparently the only live video of the song available on the entire internet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMc7z3V9wqE

i mean, he does a decent job and everything but

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link

i haven't seen or heard the Last Waltz before, so i was hoping there'd be a version of it on there, perhaps complete with neil young's cocaine booger in the background. but nope, it's not part of that setlist, or any other apparently.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link

i guess people don't rep for "ruben remus" because they're listening to the basement tapes to hear bob dylan, but Manuel just nails the vocal. he sounds so sweet and of his time in an endearing way. and the band (as in "the band") is totally on fire. it would be nice to hear an uninterrupted recording of that session from whatever night that was, because they sound like they couldn't possibly sound bad even if they tried.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link

This went up a month before I started posting, so late vote for "Tiny Montgomery." Other favourites: "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere," "Please Mrs. Henry," and the winner.

(Not what you wanted, but "Ruben Remus" is on Grooveshark: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Ruben+Remus/3YSRTU?src=5.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link

i guess people don't rep for "ruben remus" because they're listening to the basement tapes to hear bob dylan,

Love that one, but most (all?) of the Band-minus-Dylan stuff was either outtakes from Big Pink or new stuff they were working on at the time.

Weirdly (or not), a bunch of those are bonus tracks on the 2000 Big Pink CD reissue, but the liner notes don't mention that they were also on The Basement Tapes.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

What ABOUT The Basement Tapes?.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

Well done

Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 April 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

Wondering if The Basement Tapes is the last of Bob doing surreal, nonsense words as a punk gesture. "Million Dollar Bash" is pretty punk.

timellison, Thursday, 23 April 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

"Goin' to Acapulco" is horrible, lol. Our poll winner.

timellison, Thursday, 23 April 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link

"Clothes Line Saga" = Jandek

timellison, Thursday, 23 April 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link

Better rhyming, though

timellison, Thursday, 23 April 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link


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