magnificent seven is totally better than anything sd ever did. there. I'll buy you a beer, max.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 November 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry I took the time to try and articulate a position other than "x sucks y is awesome" I forgot which board I was posting to
-- El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 November 2007 01:40
And good on you, but it hardly made sense, and otoh you write "good argument" when it's clear i'm not making an argument, just, y'know, tossing off a couple of lines at 2am. Admittedly i was kind of too incredulous to think of anything more.
I tend to give smart people who hate on the Dan the benefit of the doubt that they haven't actually listened to the albums (or only superficially so, in the backround or whatever).
― Frogman Henry, Thursday, 15 November 2007 02:07 (sixteen years ago) link
"magnificent seven is totally better than anything sd ever did."
just listened to that 12-inch last week! i love that instrumental version.
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 November 2007 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link
i like steely dan & fleetwood mac just fine but the ilm "YOU'RE NOT ONE OF US" mindhive on these 2 bands is a bit tiring. almost as tiring as the xgau cult (r.i.p)
that said, steely dan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>the clash
― gershy, Thursday, 15 November 2007 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link
oops, i just read max's post
― gershy, Thursday, 15 November 2007 05:26 (sixteen years ago) link
"they'd get all these hot looking girls even though they are weird studio muppet looking dudes"
what about a gangbang?! josie:
Were gonna break out the hats and hooters When josie comes home Were gonna rev up the motor scooters When josie comes home to stay Were gonna park in the street Sleep on the beach and make it Throw down the jam till the girls say when Lay down the law and break it When josie comes home
When josie comes home So good Shes the pride of the neighborhood Shes the raw flame The live wire She prays like a roman With her eyes on fire
Jo would you love to scrapple Shell never say no Shine up the battle apple Well shake em all down tonight Were gonna mix in the street Strike at the stroke of midnight Dance on the bones till the girls say when Pick up whats left by daylight When josie comes home
When josie comes home So bad Shes the best friend we ever had Shes the raw flame The live wire She prays like a roman With her eyes on fire
― Zeno, Thursday, 15 November 2007 08:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Snore.
-- Alex in NYC, Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
Alex, all this would be much more effective if Orbit hadn't already done it three/four years ago. Go home to your wife and kids.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 15 November 2007 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Circle Jerks: One really good, really short album (basically an EP). After that, who cares?
Steely Dan: way more than that.
And I kind of hate the Jerks' logo, actually.
No contest, but a fun one regardless.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 November 2007 11:28 (sixteen years ago) link
"Steely Dan vs. Boney M."
This, though, is a contest. (And Steely Dan lose, by the way.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 November 2007 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Boney M doing an all Fagen-Becker covers album would have been pretty awesome, tho.
― JN$OT, Thursday, 15 November 2007 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Has the ILM Steely Dan backlash started then?
― Tom D., Thursday, 15 November 2007 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link
the clash are way better than the CJs and in my book as good as steely dan
Also true.
magnificent seven is totally better than anything sd ever did.
Not true, but the Clash did way better stuff than "Maginificent Seven" (which I love regardless.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 November 2007 11:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh shit Alex got compared to Orbit
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 November 2007 13:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Go home to your wife and kids.
Go lick yourself where you shit. And my kids will scalp you and use your entrails as bath toys.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link
How did this thread get to be about the Clash?
Haha, I forgot about the Orbit attack:
aor at its most unimaginative...
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:17 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
look, they were studio dudes. there is a *reason* they were studio dudes. they lacked the imagination and spark to do anything truly great. they are an energyless study in basic competence.
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:32 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
what is the difference between a musician and brilliant musician? a musician is "competent". a brilliant musician has a command of songwriting and a creative spark that goes beyond competence. LISTEN to Steely Dan for God's sake, how can you argue this?
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:43 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
uh, great tunes, witty lyrics?
-- mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:44 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
where?
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:44 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
Steely Dan fans are inexplicable to me. This is a mediocre band at best.
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:48 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
In context, Steely Dan represented everything that punk stood against: major lable dinosaur limo-rock made by people who were technicians above feeling musicians. Jimi Hendrix has more in common with the Sex Pistols or the Clash than any of those do to Steely Dan. The music is STERILE, 70s coke-fueled self-indulgence and I have yet to find a single meaningful lyric in it.
-- Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:30 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
i am genuinely baffled.
-- Orbit (Orbit), Friday, February 13, 2004 2:41 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
― jaymc, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Steely Dan are fucking awesome, btw; virtuosity combined with accessibility combined with just some flat-out genius. Aja is easily one of my favorite albums of all time.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I also don't get "cold and clinical" from them at all; most of their arrangements, while very precise, are also very warm and rich, particularly with the way various instrumental and vocal parts interweave and overlap ("Babylon Sisters" is a fantastic example of this).
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah good example, Dan. 'Babylon Sisters' is womb-like.
I just read the 33 1/3 book on 'Aja', which left me a bit disappointed.
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link
BUT YOU KNOW WHATS GREAT?! HEROIN!
― chaki, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Dan OTM. And I really can't think of anybody who would offer better barstool conversation than Becker/Fagen.
― will, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
This thread wasn't so much designed to trump the accomplishments of the Circle Jerks so much as it was an opportunity to take a dump on the `Dan Wow, what a shocker. And The Clash is better than both of them put together.
― Jazzbo, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link
er, in reference to having a seat next to Keith Morris at a bar upthread. Which I'm sure would be sufficiently entertaining itself.
― will, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link
its not.
― chaki, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link
CLASH TEAM REPRESENT
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 November 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
And The Clash is better than both of them put together.
No arguments there.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 15 November 2007 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
clash fans everywhere agree
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wear/content/images/2005/05/09/sunday_crowd2_400x300.jpg
― omar little, Thursday, 15 November 2007 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Tuomas?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 November 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Too bad Orbit was on the fence about whether he liked Steely Dan or not. I hope he made up his mind.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm sure he did.
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Gree he he he
http://forum.llc.ed.ac.uk/graphics/pink_flamingos.jpg
― omar little, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link
genius
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 November 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Masturbatory coffee-table jazz-rock noodlery for people with patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers hanging out in wine bars or "I JUST WANT SOME SKANK". Circle Jerks, obv.
http://homepage.mac.com/alexinnyc/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2007-09-28%2005.59.27%20-0700/Image-C30C58296DC111DC.jpg
― omar little, Friday, 16 November 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
yo is it true alex in nyc got sonned after a blazer beef?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 November 2007 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Do you see a patch there? No. Is the blazer corduroy? No If you look to the right, you'll see my BEER. And it's a restaurant, not a wine bar....
So go blow yourself.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
But nice try.
REAL PUNKS DONT EAT IN RESTAURANTS!!!!!!!
― max, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah dude yr supposed to eat, like, garbage and heroin
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
lighten up, alex
― omar little, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Never claimed to be a punk, btw.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Liking Punk does not equate with being a Punk, I wouldn't say. And fret not, Omar, I'm perfectly...umm...lightened.
or should that be lit, which I plan to be later.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
he's not even wearing an undershirt, that's pretty punk if you ask me
― El Tomboto, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
: D
― omar little, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Undershirts are for grandmothers and construction workers.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
don't forget the military
― El Tomboto, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
and construction-working grandmothers.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Alex kinda looks like it fell off the rack at Target, there.
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
heinken isn't very punk
― Mr. Que, Friday, 16 November 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link
"Q. how did they get something to sound like this before Pro Tools"
lol
― m coleman, Sunday, 18 November 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link