Great Japanese Pop

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yes!

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

most of the lyrics are pop beyond shame but I like shuukyo.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

and morphine.

(Jon L), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Cibo Matto and Butter 08. Also, Deerhoof's vocalist is a Japanese female.

Adrienne Nero, Saturday, 5 June 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i love japanese chixxx

Yeah... but who doesn't?

Ever try staying a week in Tokyo or Yokohama without having your head explode from all the hot chicks walking around like the end of the world is not near? Damn near impossible!

lucas (lucas), Sunday, 6 June 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Ever try staying a week in Tokyo or Yokohama without having your head explode from all the hot chicks walking around like the end of the world is not near? Damn near impossible!

The same's true for Nagoya, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima, Fukuoka - the whole place is ridiculous.

Also

SUPERCAR

are the best band in Japan.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 7 June 2004 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, Deerhoof's vocalist is a Japanese female.

uh... japanese-american. they're from san francisco, california, usa.

not really "pop" either...

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 7 June 2004 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Came across a new J-pop site in English. It's got some pretty good information about bands that maybe a lot of people haven't heard of yet.

nippop

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 21 February 2005 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link

http://nippop.com/

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Monday, 21 February 2005 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
What's up in 2006 pleaszze.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 1 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B000BVXFQ4.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.keikaku.net/reviews/102

it should be noted that I really don't like about 99% of j-pop though, it gives me the rabies. but I've been listening to Adult 2-5 times a week since it came out in January.

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 2 April 2006 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I got a really good album by Maaya Sakamoto in the mail the other day; it's on Geneon (which mostly releases anime soundtracks) in the U.S. All the music is composed and produced by Yoko Kanno, who composed the music for Cowboy Bebop, Macross Plus and my personal favorite, Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I recently heard a song by Yuki for the first time, "I U Mee Him" I think it's called, and thought it was bee-u-teefull. Anybody know more about her music and what to seek out?

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link

As usual, I agree with Milton.

And thanks for the link to that site! I hadn't seen it before...not bad.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 2 April 2006 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm liking Adult.

I'm looking for something that's really poppy and dancey though. I want like a japanese girls aloud.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 2 April 2006 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't we all! I know next to nothing about japanese girl groups, though, there seems to be this really strong gender divide, all the english-language j-pop blogs seem to be guys going on about hello!project/morning musume/girl idols and the j-pop livejournals are girls chatting Johnny's Entertainment/wFl/general boybandism. Which as far as I can tell is surprisingly enough a reflection of how it is in japan, boybands for teenage girls as standard but girl-groups not, aimed instead at yer sliiiightly older males. But then female solo artists of the singer-songwriter type and female-fronted guitar/etc type groups are often for the girls as well, in Japan even if not in western j-pop fandom (stuff like AI, Every Little Thing, Mika Nakashima, all that).

I'm not really feeling j-pop 2006 yet, it doesn't feel like anything very exciting has happened, musically at least (the current number one selling like 750,000 copies in its first week is more uhm culturally interesting?). Otsuka Ai has a new single out, which is supercute (music video on youtube here), but LOVE COOK was a bit of a disappointment, so I'm not expecting too much. Morning Musume's last single was good, if a bit typical.

The j-pop i'm listening to most at the moment is straightforward pop-rock and eighties chartpop, though, not post-shibuyakei stuff. Also m-flo, who are a.ma.zing, but more r'n'b/hiphop than j-pop. 2004's 'astromantic' is the album to go for with them.

permanent revolution (cis), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Here are some new Japanese pop albums that I expect to be pretty great, based on the song samples.

Yukihiro Takahashi - Blue Moon Blue

http://www.neowing.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=TOCT-25939

If you listen to the samples, you'll see it's in a similar vein as the Takahashi/Hosono Sketch Show collaborations, though bordering slightly more on the pop than electronic side.

Tomita Lab - Shiplaunching

http://www.neowing.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=AICL-1731

Jazzy pop with lots of guest vocalists (including Takahashi on one track).

Buffalo Daughter - Euphorica

Can't find samples for this...but they're one of the more well-known j-pop bands I suppose.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like the Yo Hitoto song "Hito-Shian", but I've never been able to find it outside my rip from the ending of a movie.

jackl (jackl), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Fancy Dick

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Domofuki Murata

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Massage Emancipator

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Crispity Nuggets

Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Sunday, 2 April 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Been listening excessively to a rather sweet post-Shibuya-kei record from last year: Refely's 9-Cliches. It's like a three way between Cornelius/Flipper's Guitar, Max Tundra and Shiina Ringo.

BARMS, Monday, 3 April 2006 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, the elepop band The Aprils have three fantastic crossbreed indie-electroclash-Game Boy-good time pop albums, all released over the past 3 years.

BARMS, Monday, 3 April 2006 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, and on a Yuki tip, her 2005 album "Joy" is v v good.

permanent revolution (cis), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The Happy End from the seventies and Flipper's Guitar. Venus Peter. Are Jumprope an originally japanese band? Japancakes.

antonio, Monday, 3 April 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the Yuki tip. I was wondering if anybody noticed.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone mention Tujiko Noriko? I love her much.

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i would have replied quicker about Yuki but I started listening to the album and forgot about posting! (actually I often - shamefully? - get Yuki confused with Chara, that same slightly countrified, gentle acoustic pop with the high girl voice breathy rather than squeaky, so I had to check before i recced.)

The great thing about 'joy' is that I expect the usual gentle sweetness, but the first song is so startlingly synthpop (crypto-rave, even!) --
http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=153YM54R40SLM0PQ01UOPX10PR

permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

check out Denki Groove who at their pinnacle (that's "A" and "Orange") are a combination of boredomsy shouting, slick high speed rapping, rephlexesque techno geekery with nods & winks to devo, supercamp electro pop disco house etc, daft sing songy songs, football chants, vangelis, and the list goes on.
unfortunately they were kind of off the boil before and after these two albums.

bob snoom (vestibule), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

They don't have any new stuff out because they broke up a year ago, but please check out Supercar. They put so many of the artists mentioned on this thread to shame.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't say I've grounds to agree with that so far.

BARMS, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Xinlisupreme

S- (sgh), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 03:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, permanent revolution! Thanks for the ysi!
I've never heard of Chara, but then again I really haven't heard of most of the music on this thread, I'd really like to though, I'm just barely discovering this stuff.
Has anybody heard the album "Prismic", by Yuki?? I've heard good stuff about it so far.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Is there some place I can buy some of this stuff on CD for non-ridiculous prices? (Even a bargain download site might be good.)

Also compilations would be a good idea, as brought up on another thread.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 8 April 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Another yes to comps. I've got a chunk of Pizzicato Five, which I guess I like but never really want to listen to, but I'm sure there must be more out there. Is there one of those ILM "Rough Guide" lists out there somewhere?

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Saturday, 8 April 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.yesasia.com/ seems to be what most people use, I've no idea how good it is though. amazon.jp ship internationally as well.

"non-ridiculous prices" - Japanese albums tend to cost ¥3000 or so, which is, what, $25 US? The price is usually pretty fixed, it's written on the cd packaging even. Alas ebookoff - second-hand and hence not cripplingly expensive - don't seem to deliver outside japan. Sometimes yesasia will stock an 'international version' (ie a general non-japan asian version i think?) which is drastically cheaper though.

permanent revolution (cis), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Ugh. This thread reminds me that I lost all of my j-pop in the Great MP3 Player Crash of '05, and it makes me very sad.

I will second (third? fourth?) the Yuki recommendations in this thread wholeheartedly. Except I'll add that her solo albums (and, to some extent, her work with Judy & Mary) don't really have many of the tropes that one might associate with prototypical j-pop. Musically, I think they probably sound much less foreign to Western ears, but they're very solid and well worth checking out.

Here's the video for Yuki's "End Of Shite" (from Prismic, which is indeed great):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrC7zxjGCGc&search=Pv

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably should mention that said video is maybe just slightly NSFW (for brief simulated masturbation, upskirt exploration of cartoon gnomes).

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anybody have the new Kurahashi Yoeko album 'Tadaima'? There's a review of it on the keikaku site Milton linked to. I haven't heard it yet, but I have 'Tokyo Piano', which I think is really cool. It's got more of an old-school '70s/80s J-pop vibe. However, her vocals are always really off key and hard to take. I mean I think she must do it on purpose...they'll definitely turn off a lot of listeners. I'm hoping they're slightly more restrained on 'Tadaima'.

I'm going to order 'Tadaima' and the Yukihiro Takahashi album 'Blue Moon Blue' from cdjapan.co.jp

Never used yesasia...but cdjapan is at least reliable.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

So what would be worth checking out by Judy and Mary??

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 9 April 2006 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

http://www.waxpoetics.com/music/mixtape/citypop-japanese-aor-mixtape

Japanese DJ Bawxxx recently hipped us to his mix of citypop (Japanese AOR), lovingly called Melancholy of Suburbia, and we’re feeling this! Good luck ever finding these records! We don’t know much about Mr. Bawxxx, but with a little snooping we found out that he apparently hails from Nagoya and eats quite well!

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

i've been listening to tons of japanese electronic pop of the 1980s, esp. 1980-84, lately. there doesn't seem to be as much of a division between what we might consider "pop" versus "experimental" in japan. that goes for music as much as, say, film. people like hosono and others move freely--even on a single album--between modes. i like that aspect a lot. not that western pop music doesn't have its experimental elements.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

that said, the "city pop" of the kind on that mix is not very experimental, but it can be very enjoyable. i don't have my laptop to hand to check out the names of the bands/albums in that mode that i've been enjoying, but i can check later. if anyone cares.

the album i've been addicted to in particular is a one-off studio group called "aragon" (that's what the album is called, too). it's a kind of electronic MOR/jazz fusion/4th world/ambient thing. which could sound terrible. amazingly my fave track is on youtube, i'm curious what others think. i think it's lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAqNzycK7rY

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

oh yeah, I love the closer on that aragon album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSBH2EGcNHo

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

oh man, somebody else who knows this record! it seems hopelessly obscure. good luck finding an actual copy in the states.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

don't have a physical copy myself, but yeah, it's a good one!

if you haven't heard it, I'd recommend the ichiko hashimoto's beauty if you dig that aragon lp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UELvVDDXEG0

similar understated experimental '4th world' pop vibe on a couple tracks (it's pretty eclectic tho, others are nothing like that one)

original bgm, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

these 80s japanese LPs are some of things i don't feel bad about downloading, since in many cases i'd never find a copy. in some cases there have been reissues but given typical japanese prices and exchange rates they'd be like $50+

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

also it'd be hard for me to even look them up since i don't read kanji :(

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

original love, tomoyo harada, olivia, clammbon

CerebralCaustic, Friday, 20 January 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link


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