Say Something Interesting about: Roy Orbison

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'in dreams' is about the best song anyone ever wrote.

-- cºzen (skiplevel...), November 7th, 2004.


his best songs deserve to be a lot longer. as it is they often feel like they're over before they've begun. "it's over" is the classic example, but i guess that works on a thematic level.

i find chris isaak really sympathetic, although i haven't listened to his records in ages.

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm going to buy that 'in dreams' album and 'orbisongs' too. I might even buy some chris isaak while I'm at it.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think isaak is too similar vocally but I can hear why people would recommend him to orbison lovers.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

it's all the tremolo guitar parts of course!

chris isaak is a lot hotter than roy orbison ever was, but roy made better records.

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Orbisongs/In Dreams used to be a twofer CD. Maybe it still is.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

c0zen are you on aim?

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

also as much as i love "blue velvet" i kind of wish that movie didn't have a stranglehold on "in dreams," you know?

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

People are to stop talking about Chris Isaak on this thread!

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry mom

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Disclaimer: I don't actually like Chris Isaak, I just think he tries to sound like Orbison.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I fell in love with 'in dreams' before I watched 'blue velvet' (last night) so it's not got so much of a hold as it won't let go, for me.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

orbison gets docked a few points for his contributions to the travelling wilburys.

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

The ones where he sang were the only good ones!

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I start at the ankles and work up. I am like a spider binding him in my gossamer web. I do it tight with several layers. Soon Roy Orbison stands before me, completely wrapped in cling-film. The pleasure is unexampled.

'You are completely wrapped in cling-film,' I say.

'You win the bet,' says Roy, muffled. 'Now unwrap me.'

'Not for several hours.'

'Ah.'

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm listening to the earlier Lonely & Blue now. Not nearly as good. Very formulaic. Too many fillers with a dum-de-wum here and a doo-do-wah there and lyrics consisting of random rearrangements of 'lonely', 'blue', 'crying' and 'dreams'.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"I'll Say It's My Fault" is great, though.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

My favourite is Running Scared, an extraordinarily tense song. One of the live albums I have, he ends it on that huge "...with MEEEEEE!!!" and the audience goes wild, and then he just sings the last couple of lines another half dozen times, putting more into it each time. It's fantastic.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

That does sound good. I was just listening to the last of my Roy Orbison albums, Crying, which closes with 'Running Scared'. What a song.

Another great song on that album to bury your head in the pillow to: 'Summersong'

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: "Life Fades Away," from the 'Less Than Zero' soundtrack. He cowrote it with Danzig. Great one.

George Harrison said that Roy was deeply conversant with the work of Monty Python. I love that.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never owned the comeback Mystery Girl album, but I do remember once hearing on the radio the song on it that Elvis Costello wrote for him: 'The Comedians'. It's always stuck in my head, just from that one airing. I think I'm going to try and download it now.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I always found it strange that KD Lang and Chris Isaak not only both sound like Roy Orbison vocally, but look like each other (though not like Orbison.)

The parenthesized disclaimer however doesn't necessarily mean that they could not be, correspondingly, the Roy'O of lesbos pop and the Roy'O of copycatsdom.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

He cowrote it with Danzig??!!?!

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Yep, Rick Rubin put 'em together. It's awesome, a death song very much in the style of "Running Scared," etc.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 8 November 2004 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link

If I'm not mistaken, the song "Crying" on Mulholland Drive is also his. How is the original?

daavid (daavid), Monday, 8 November 2004 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

You don't know Roy Orbison's 'Crying'? Wow. I'd love to be in a position to hear that now for the first time. You're in for a treat.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 01:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the Spanish version in Mullholand Drive did something kind of funky with the melody on the chorus (by funky I mean bad).

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link

she just sung it really, really, really slow if i recall. with lots of strange stops and starts.

amateur!!st, Monday, 8 November 2004 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I seem to remember the melody on the "over you" part going of the chorus down instead of up when the woman sings it in the theater, but I could be wrong. I also remember it not being quite exactly translated, like "Crying over my love" instead of "Crying over you," or something like that.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 8 November 2004 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Someone said the phrase 'video killed the radio star' was about Roy Orbison, but I bet that's not even right. But the point is that he wasn't good looking but he was supposedly the last not-exactly-looking solo star to achieve great success in an era that was still somewhat pre-visual-image. Thus putting him at the cusp(?) of two eras and giving him great significance. On the other hand does this even make sense, surely not all pop stars are good looking even now.

xx, Monday, 8 November 2004 09:10 (nineteen years ago) link

What is the one Roy Orbison record I absolutely must own. I like the sadness. I like the tenderness. I don't need your fucking celebrations.

adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

adam why are you such a bitch? ;-)

just get one of the greatest hits things with the original monument versions on it.

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

You used a winky! I've never seen you do that before. I'm genuinely touched! Also sorry I have been drinking.

adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's a couple:

LONELY AND BLUE

Only The Lonely (Know The Way I Feel)
Bye-Bye Love
Cry
Blue Avenue
I Can't Stop Loving You
Come Back To Me (My Love)
Blue Angel
Raindrops
(I'd Be A) Legend In My Time
I'm Hurtin'
Twenty Two Days
I'll Say It's My Fault


IN DREAMS

In Dreams
Lonely Wine
Shahdaroba
No One Will Ever Know
Sunset
House Without Windows
Dream
Blue Bayou
(They Call You) Gigolette
All I Have To Do Is Dream
Beautiful Dreamer
My Prayer

Take either.

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link

But neither have "It's Over," which is my favorite.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

ROY ORBISON AND FRIENDS - A BLACK AND WHITE NIGHT

Only The Lonely
Dream Baby (How Long Must I Dream)
Blue Bayou
The Comedians
Ooby Dooby
Leah
Running Scared
Uptown
In Dreams
Crying
Candy Man
Go, Go, Go (Down The Line)
Mean Woman Blues
(All I Can Do Is) Dream You
Claudette
It's Over
Oh, Pretty Woman

I havn't heard this one, but it's got quite the playlist.

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Has noone really mentioned the fact that he was an albino?
I mean, that's interesting!

Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link

not as interesting as the big bopper being a leper

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish there was a feature on stereos that took the "Dum Dum Dum Dumby Doowah" stuff out of the mix.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:21 (nineteen years ago) link

rockist

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I know you're probably half joking, but COME ON!!!!

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link

there's a photo, of him, in sun studios, that makes him look just like odo, from star trek: deep space 9.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:35 (nineteen years ago) link

The Golden Decade box set is absolutely fantastic, all the great stuff. Don't know how much it costs.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, my grandparents saw him live once, back in the '70s! (Vegas?)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Indeed, at least in my experience, even folks old enough to have hated rock n' roll since day one liked Roy, and were shocked and saddened by his death.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Does anyone have much knowledge of his post-64/5 work? I absolutely love the Monument singles, which I have on a compilation, and could really do with knowing more...

Could he actually be seen as a forerunner of Scott Walker, in some ways; not in the actual vocal timbre, but more in the heartbreaking nature, and an 'existential crooner' effect, perhaps.

Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 15 January 2005 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link

"Say Something Interesing about: Roy Orbison"

Roy Orbison was the first American musician to use Marshall guitar amps. Orbison got an early one on a UK tour and liked it enough to make it his amp when he went back to the USA.

earlnash, Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I got drunk and wept my face off the day Roy died. After a life spattered with personal tragedy and awesome existential pop, he had to work with George Harrison and Tom Petty.

"Blue Bayou" is a force of nature.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 January 2005 05:16 (nineteen years ago) link

It was Boudleaux Bryant who wrote "Love Hurts" (someone mentioned this way upthread a few years ago).

Well...how do I say this...I find him kind of overrated in a way. I like him, I stupidly let go of this great Monument 2-LP set of his hits a while back and now I wish I had not. But my taste does not run to that particular style of singing and record-making. I like "Uptown" and "Running Scared" fine, "Pretty Woman" is one of the all-time riffs, etc. The thing I find interesting is that he really wasn't all that popular in his heyday, he was rediscovered later on. For whatever reason he doesn't move me; he sings great but it's not something I put on, you know. One of my literature teachers at the U. of Tenn. in Knoxville, Dick Penner, co-wrote "Ooby Dooby" and after I mentioned this to him I got even better grades. The Big O is someone I probably need to go back to and re-assess, he's one of the few Founding Rock Daddies I just don't quite get.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 15 January 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, "rockabilly," he kind of has a tangential relationship to rockabilly, doesn't he? Like Charlie Rich, whom I find infinitely more interesting. I do like the famous Sam Phillips quote about Roy--to the effect that his voice was golden but if anyone got a good look at him he'd be dead in a week (commercially speaking, I guess).

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 15 January 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
"She's a Mystery to Me" - head and shoulders the finest thing Messrs. Evans and Hewson ever wrote.

Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

HI DERE#onethread

The Big Candy-O (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 January 2023 02:28 (one year ago) link


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