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that response is also a tired and dreary construct. you similarly are capable of better. early morning aerobics to burn off lazy kneejerk opinions; nothing wrong with that.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 3 March 2003 10:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

pre 1963: Vaughn Meader - The First Family
1964: The Beatles - Second Album
1965: Patti Page - Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte
1966 - Bob Booker and George Foster - When You're in Love the Whole World is Jewish
1967 - The Rolling Stones: Between the Buttons
1968 - Pigmeat Markham: Here Comes the Judge
1969: Elvis Presley: From Elvis in Memphis
1970: Moms Mabley - Live at Sing Sing
1971: Loretta Lynn: Coal Miner's Daughter
1972: The O'Jays - Back Stabbers
1973: Merle Haggard: I Love Dixie Blues
1974: Lynyrd Skynyrd: Second Helping
1975: Led Zeppelin: Physical Graffiti
1976: Redd Foxx - You Gotta Wash Your Ass
1977: Brian Eno - Before and After Science
1978: Joe Ely - Honky Tonk Masquerade
1979: Joy Division: Unknown Pleasures
1980: The Fall - Grotesque (After the Gramme)
1981: Kid Creole & the Coconuts: Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places
1982: Television: The Blow-Up
1983: Eddie Murphy - Comedian
1984: Prince - Purple Rain
1985: Husker Du - Flip Your Wig
1986: Randy Travis - Storms of Life
1987: Less than Zero OST
1988: Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
1989: Pylon - Hits
1990: Jerry Clower - An Officer and a Ledbetter
1991: Nirvana - Nevermind
1992: Too Short: Shorty the Pimp
1993: Nirvana - In Utero
1994 - Dimples: Baby Makin Music
1995: Batman Forever OST
1996: v/a - Only in America
1997: Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind
1998 - The Drive-By Truckers: Gangstabilly
1999: Cool Breeze: East Point's Greatest Hits
2000: Macabre: Dahmer
2001: The Ex - Dizzy Spells
2002: The Streets - Original Pirate Material

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 3 March 2003 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate this list too.

1976 Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band
1977 Television, Marquee Moon
1978 Blondie, Plastic Letters
1979 Gang of Four, Entertainment!
1980 Feelies, Crazy Rhythms
1981 Tom Tom Club
1982 Richard and Linda Thompson, Shoot Out the Lights
1983 R.E.M., Murmur
1984 Prince, Purple Rain (god, this was a tough choice)
1985 Talking Heads, Little Creatures
1986 Elvis Costello & the Attractions, Blood & Chocolate
1987 Smiths, Strangeways, Here We Come
1988 Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation
1989 Jane Siberry, Bound By the Beauty
1990 Deee-Lite, World Clique
1991 Guns 'n' Roses, Use Your Illusion I
1992 Madonna, Erotica
1993 Nirvana, In Utero
1994 Kristin Hersh, Hips and Makers
1995 Luna, Penthouse
1996 Sugarplastic, Bang, the Earth is Round
1997 Tsunami, A Brilliant Mistake
1998 Hole, Celebrity Skin
1999 Mike Ness, Cheating at Solitaire
2000 Radiohead, Kid A
2001 Basement Jaxx, Rooty
2002 Sonic Youth, Murray Street

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 March 2003 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

1979 Gang of Four, Entertainment!

Actually I think my real answer is XTC's Drums and Wires.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 March 2003 10:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't remember before 99 or so.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 3 March 2003 10:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I forgot 1963! - James Brown: Live at the Apollo (of course)

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 3 March 2003 10:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've been intending on starting a thread asking for people to choose one album for each year since they were born for a while now, actually. Should we continue this one or start anew?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 March 2003 10:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Geir is an old alt.music.alternative mucker whose taste in music I 85% disagree with (and who can be very, very frustrating to argue with), but he is AFAIK entirely honest and not a troll. His views on music are pretty strict: if you think that not listening to very much music by black people makes you a racist then you might think Geir is a racist; I don't. It's fascinating that the race canard came up with what must have been his second or third post here though - the more things change, etc.

Nick this one is fine - lists for the people who like them, fites for the people who don't.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 3 March 2003 10:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

before 99=Sitting Still=nineteen eighty-three

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 3 March 2003 10:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

1994: hootie and the blowfish - cracked rear view
1995: semisonic - pleasure
1996: matchbox 20 - yourself or someone like you
1997: stereophonics - word gets around
1998: barenaked ladies - stunt
1999: stereophonics - performance and cocktails
2000: toploader - onka's big moka
2001: jamiroquai - a funk odyssey
2002: toploader - magic hotel
2003: (so far) Erlend Øye: Unrest

― andy paltridge (andy), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

scrap that last one i put it in by accident. geir's tendency to put in deliberately obscure choices like Erland Oye is off-putting, but it's nice to see some love for real music on ILM.

― andy paltridge (andy), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

hahahahahahahahahahaha

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Make my 2001 choice Rock Steady.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I would guess my 2003 favourite will become less "obscure" by the end of the year. After all, it's only early March yet...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

And, btw, the best black music was made in the mid-60s, on Motown, but that label was mainly a singles one and not an albums one by then. After cirka 1970, there hasn't been a lot of great African American music other than Stevie Wonder's classic 1972-76 albums.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dear James Blount,

rebuttal to Leonard Bernstein's late 80s remark that James Brown had destroyed pop music (he didn't mean it postively)

I would like to find above quote?. Do you know where I can find it, prefer web, if not book

Dear Matos,
Ocean of Sound is that the cd that accompanies Toop's book?

Dear Geir,
I find your remarks on black music lacking in knowledge

― Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not considering the fact that I refuse to accept music that doesn't put the main emphasis on melody and harmondy.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bernstein was one hundre per cent right btw.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry about that link, it should have been black music .

― Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

So you refuse to accept reggae?

Reggae is a product of the union of West African rythms and European melody and harmony.

Jan

― Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is rhythm not as important as melody and harmony?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 March 2003 11:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Both melody and harmony arise naturally from rhythm, according to yer African music templates. What happened when the latter met European sensibilities in the late 19th century pretty well resulted in what we have today.

As for GH...oh dear oh dear oh dear. Matos, Blount, I take it all back - let him have it.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 3 March 2003 12:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's subjective surely. i enjoy both, but it's understandable that some would prefer one or the other. there are certain sounds/traits in music that make me switch off, so it's understandable that a lack of melody could be a trait that would turn some people off.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 3 March 2003 12:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Taking sides: Rhythm vs Melody

geir is mentioned...

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 3 March 2003 12:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Geir Hongro - Classic or Dud?

More on Geir

― Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Monday, 3 March 2003 12:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

i've already posted my own list twice on other threads, the Pick one album from the year X threads too

here all my second favourite albums from each year then:

1988: Pet Shop Boys 'Introspective'
1989: New Order 'Technique'
1990: Public Enemy 'Fear Of A Black Planet'
1991: U2 'Achtung Baby'
1992: Altern 8 'Full On Mask Hysteria'
1993: Senser 'Stacked Up'
1994: Massive Attack 'Protection'
1995: Tricky 'Maxinquaye'
1996: Underworld 'Second Toughest In The Infants'
1997: Chemical Brothers 'Dig Your Own Hole'
1998: Lo Fidelity All Stars 'How To Operate With A Blown Mind'
1999: Chemical Brothers 'Surrender'
2000: Doves 'Lost Souls'
2001: Zero 7 'Simple Things'
2002: Cassette Boy 'The Parker Tapes'

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 3 March 2003 12:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

A good old-fashioned tune never goes out of fashion. Rap and techno are going to die!!!!!

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 3 March 2003 12:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

An astonishing list. Astonishing in its absense (as has already been pointed out) of black music in particular. (Genesis gets five mentions but not one by Otis, Aretha, James Brown, Al Green, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, Prince, etc.)
Too many complaints to add here, other than Dylan was pretty big in the 60s too (Blonde on Blonde, Highway 61). Sgt. Pepper is a relic that hasn't stood the test of time (unlike Rubber Soul). It also appears that punk never happened.
I had no idea that one person could be so utterly sheltered.

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Punk should never have happened.
James Brown should never have happened.

The Beatles found the perfect formula and future musicans should stick to that one. No need for "innovation".

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, and Mozart was overrated.

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

It might just be that Geir likes lots of black music, but that it never made number one in a yearlist?

OK, perhaps nog in Geirs case, but personally I enjoy lots of black music, but the love is mostly for singles rather than albums.

― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually, Mozart couldn't be overrated because he was white.

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wouldn't say I like _a lot_ of black music, but I like some. I love all of Stevie Wonder's 1972-76 albums, and I also quite respect Marvin Gaye's post 1970 output. As for _before_ 1970, there is a lot of black music that I like, but Motown was always very singles oriented, and no 60s Motown album is consistent enough throughout to be among my favourites.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of the great things about Geir's taste - probably the only great thing about Geir's taste - is the way he turns so many people into frothing defenders of the pop canon by focussing so resolutely on one small aspect of that canon. "BUT WHAT ABOUT DYLAN?" simply doesn't work as an argument because Marcello's initial impulse was entirely right - Geir is one person with a set of tastes which are rigorous if a bit inconsistent, and he's setting those tastes out for the world, without apology. In many ways he is the epitome of the ILM approach, or the ILM approach taken to absurd extremes, which is probably why he inspires such argument.

I think his views on 'black music' are completely wrongheaded, but I think that they also expose a little the problems with accepting the linkage of music and race in the first place. IIRC from my old clashes with Geir, tangling with him on his own terms led you to advocate either a kind of pop-taste quota system, or to defend a more flattering version of the idea of 'natural rhythm', or both.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Have you ever heard of soul music, Geir? (Obviously not, because Genesis is one of the most soulless bands ever). That genre certainly wasn't just "singles oriented," as the albums on Atlantic/Stax/Volt and other labels are solid: Otis, Aretha, James Carr, Howard Tate, William Bell, Joe Tex, Sam Cooke, etc.
I'm assuming you prefer the Righteous Brothers.

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Soul music isn't melodic enough. Too repetitive and too few chords.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Besides, an album isn't consistent if the songs aren't all written by the artist himself or some permanent band member.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Besides, an album isn't consistent if the songs aren't all written by the artist himself or some permanent band member."

You mean like Please Please Me?

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Please Please Me" isn't a consistent album, no. But the idea of a consistent "rock" album wasn't _invented_ in 1963 anyway.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

We could turn this into an singles versus albums debate.

My theory:
Albums are needed because it is the only way to promote cult of personality. People buy records because they identify with the artists.

Singles: singles are better at capturing the mood of the moment. This is why I mainly buy compilations.

Albums I do like are by individuals rather than groups. I guess this has to do with my natural aversion towards groups.

In an MP3 world, the loser will be the album. Singles will thrive (just like ringtones).

Geir,
What was the first consistent rock album?

― Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

In an MP3 world, the loser will be compilations. Albums will still sell, while singles oriented artists will not mean much to the recording labels finacially, and thus will die.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Soul music isn't melodic enough. Too repetitive and too few chords."

You mean like these:
"Everybody Loves a Winner"
"You Don't Miss Your Water"
"Do Right Woman - Do Right Man"
"The Dark End of the Street"
"A Change is Gonna Come"
"These Arms of Mine"
"I've Been Loving You Too Long"
"Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa (Sad Song)"
"The Happy Song"
"I've Got Dreams to Remember"
"Share Your Love With Me"
"When a Man Loves a Woman"

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

here all my second favourite albums from each year then:

I'll spare those for my Top 20s of each year coming up later on. :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

you're all rockist scum

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

There are several of those songs you listed that I've heard, Jazzbo, and I don't see them as particularly melodic. Usually ostinato based, sort of meant for the singer to improvise. I don't like that sort of songwriting. I prefer songs to be strictly precomposed, with a lot of chord and key changes throughout. And with a clear distinction between contrasting verses and choruses.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bacause the more structured and predetermined it is the less you have to engage, think, and be surprised and delighted by the unexpected.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

There is nothing quite like an unexpected key change anyway.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

"There are several of those songs you listed that I've heard, Jazzbo, and I don't see them as particularly melodic."

Wow, OK. To each his own. I'll just leave you with this: There's a big wide world of music out there, and I think it's sad that you're able to appreciate only this much of it (holds thumb and forefinger a millimeter apart).

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Compilations will not loose because they will feature liner notes, pictures, background info ... all of this stuff that don't come with an MP3 download.

and Geir: first rock album (consistent)? Which was it?

― Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Purposely or accidentally?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

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