I just finished book #10 of Robert Jordan's stupid series.

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The Ghost of Internet Slash To Thread (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Did the sorceress woman who vanished through the magic doorway ever come back?

Moiraine? Maybe. Maybe not.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link

everybody stop talking about this lest i be foolishly tempted to start reading it again!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

The last 50 pages of book 6 are completely off the chain. It's all downhill from that, though I'll buy the next one the day it comes out. I'm a slave 4 RJ.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link

After the birth of her second child, Morgase shares a vulnerable moment with her Aes Sedai advisor...chapter four up.

Anyway, this is tempting me to "catch up", except I'd have to read them all from the top, and that's a mighty slab of pulp.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the majority of the tediousness is all the fucking bland bickering between "handsome" Aes Sedai and noblepersons trying to abdicate a variety of crowns. Less Brown Ajah, more Perrin the Wolf Dude fucking people up to save his wife.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) "This" being "this thread", not "this wholly unsurprising existence of a WoT slash community"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

"Less Brown Ajah, more Perrin the Wolf Dude fucking people up to save his wife."

Yeah but it would be better if he did more of the "fucking people up" and less of the "think about anything except Berelain's legs" guilty repression trips.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah this has been said like a 1000 times on this thread already but Jordon really confuses petty neuroses for compelling drama.

ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
oh no!!! number 11 is out soon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312873077/ref=amb_right-3_96176201_2/103-2203941-6931055

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 28 August 2005 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

i am 25 now and i must have been 13 when i started reading these books

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 28 August 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i gave up.

i finally finished nine, which was fucking tedious and terrible.

read "A Game of Thrones" by George R. R. Martin instead. First book in the best fantasy series of the decade.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 28 August 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Read the first two. Thought there were only (only!) six. Went to the bookshop and saw volume seven. Promptly abandoned the series.

chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Sunday, 28 August 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Ian, has the fourth book in Martin's series come out yet?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 August 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

out in november.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 28 August 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Ian is so OTM about that Martin series! So fucking good (and the characters are all in jeopardy at all times) (so awesome watching them attempt the Potpourri category).

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 August 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I figure it's going to be great by what little I've read of it so far. Kind of an extension of Guy Gavriel Kay's shades of gray approach, which is thoroughly welcome.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 August 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ian, you were so right. I went and bought "A Game of Thrones" after I started it at your house and tore through it. I'm getting "A Clash of Kings" today and will blame you if I spend all my time reading it instead of finding a job.

Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 29 August 2005 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

IAN CONTRIBUTES TO UNEMPLOYMENT

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 August 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I DO MY BEST FOR YA'LL FOLKX.

SHIT IS SO GOOD. READ IT ALL UP.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I just started Walden by H.D. Thoreau. Is the rest of the series this good?

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 August 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I hear Walden Five is when it kicks in.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

That's when Don Henley fights Thoreau's ghost.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

thoreau and emerson can eat my cock.
booorrring.

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link

"i am 25 now and i must have been 13 when i started reading these books "

Yeah, i think I started in 1994! I have not read a fantasy book in yonks I think. And yet i am vaguely pondering the impending release date with anticipation...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Yet more proof that this series is like totally autobiographical provided in the RJ interview on the page Ryan linked to:

"Q: What is the worst lie you've ever told?
A: It's hard to think of one since I am genetically incapable of lying to women and that takes out 52% of the population right there."

"Q: If you could have one superpower what would it be?
A: That depends. If I'm feeling altruistic, it would be the ability to heal anything with a touch, if that can be called a superpower. If I'm not feeling very altruistic, it would be the ability to read other people's minds, to finally be able to get to the bottom of what they really mean and what their motivations are. "

Also, worst cover yet!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

"Yeah, i think I started in 1994!"

No it was 1992! That is wrong.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Jordan has scarred me permanently. I spent years waiting for each new volume to be released until finally I gave up halfway through book nine. It was so hard to plough through the tedium when there's no end in sight.

I now won't start a fantasy series until all the books have been published. So I'm denying myself the GRR Martin and the Stephen Erikson books that are meant to be really good.

I delude myself into thinking that Jordan means it when he says that it'll all be finished in the next couple of books and that one day I can go back to it and read the whole thing from beginning to end.

Greig (treefell), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

The Martin and Erikson are good. And Erikson at least can be relied upon to regularly produce the goods (saying that his publisher put the date of book 6 back nine months for no apparent reason...bastards). Martin's characters while well written unfortunately have the habit of dying whenever they even slightly fuck something up...sooner of later he's gonna run out of them.

I've been tempted, over the years, to write to Jordan informing him of these strange things called "editors". It's been 15 years and he still hasn't got anywhere near the bloody point, I know kids who are reading them who weren't born when the first one was published. And I'm also sick of his characters being trapped in permanent adolescence or (in the case of his female characters) permanent PMS.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I am the only person on Earth who really likes the exploding subplots in the Jordan books. I really like the sense that these events are so massive that the ripple effect is causing a complicated political and social upheaval that is impacting the foundations of every single society on the planet and Jordan's taking the time to show us every single major story and plot thread in this series; it's like watching an actual alternate history unfold.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

it's not much fun to try and read robert jordan when yr on acid. HEAD HURTS

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I noticed the following link from that amazon page that ian j linked to:

omg wtf


Like finishing this lot isn't enough, he has to start on a prequel TRILOGY!!!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Every time he does anything, it makes it all the more clear that Robert Jordan doesn't intend to ever finish writing the Wheel of Time series.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not touching the prequels until he finishes the main story.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm ashamed to say that I actually own a copy of the prequel book, but then again I did get it for £2 out of a bargain book shop. Not that I've read it. Well OK, I read the short story it's based on, but that was back when I cared.

Greig (treefell), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Word on the street is that lots of plots actually get resolved in the new book! And it's the second-last in the series!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Pilfered interweb Prologue + First Chapter confirm that this is going to be so much better than any of the books since Lord of Chaos.

But am I the only one who cares?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

no that's great news! i cant wait to read it.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Ryan the prologue and the first chapter are floating around on filesharing programs (I got em off Limewire). Without wanting to spoil things, this is the first time since I can remember where just the prologue has been filled with k-blammo plot developments which totally throw entire story arcs into different directions.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 30 September 2005 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link

YAY

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I have read all the Robert Jordan books, if you wait long enough they turn up in stores for $5,but I am relieved to hear he might be winding the series up, I was getting scared that they would nail his coffin shut before he finished and he would be forced to take possession of an autowriter/agent. With a youthful body who knows how long he would drag the series out for.

Excuse me I must tug my braid and sniff now.

Menelaus Darcy (Menelaus Darcy), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
THE AWESOMENESS!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I am unnaturally excited about this next book.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

goddamn it.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Just grabbed this at Costco, but haven't started it. Hope it is as good as I have been hearing.

Mingus Dew (Mingus Dew), Friday, 14 October 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"It's, like, Jordan sets these little foreshadowing plot barbs in and then cashes in the chips later on (omg I crossed the streams there). "

There is quite a bit of chip-cashing going on in this book, FINALLY. Quite a few little endings that feel like endings - i.e. "oh, this character probably isn't going to be seen again." I actually finished the book without being annoyed for once! And a lot of the foreshadowed plot developments that appeared to have gotten bogged down or fallen by the wayside either happen or are set up to happen early on in the next book.

Plus Egwene and especially Mat totally rock in this book. I think Mat gets more pages than anyone else.

Although on an odd note the lesbianism quotient has skyrocketed. As you'd expect it's rather prevalent among the Red Ajah!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

So number 12 might actually end the damn thing?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently it will be the last book. Although I've also heard that Jordan said somewhere you might need help carrying it out of the store... which doesn't surprise me: for all that #11 accelerates the pace markedly, there's still heaps and heaps to tie up, and any sudden shortcut to the apocalypse would render all the machiavellian plotting to date somewhat pointless.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 15 October 2005 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link

~25 years after i first started... done!

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