Buzzcocks: Classic or Dud

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Classic. Too easy. We just did Dr. Dre and the Clash; who's next up in There's No Way They're a Dud But I'll Ask Anyway? Let's do Elvis Costello and the Pixies later.

Larms, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, The Buzzcocks are way too uncontroversial for a Classic-or-Dud. The Clash thread was actually fairly polarized, lotsa people disliking them, more than for my man Springsteen who I thought was gonna get a thorough beating at the hands of Smiths fans (kind of an amusing image when you think about it), who turned out to be outnumbered by rock and roll lovers ;). Anyway, Buzzcocks = Classic.

Patrick, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Classic! Irrefutably great.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

If everyone for the past 20 (25?) years has missed the point then it begs the question as to what the point is?

"Boredom" is one of the greatest songs ever recorded. I'm happy to stop there, personally.

Tom, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Random personal Buzzcocks thoughts : 'I Don't Mind' on TOTP, '16 Again' on the OGWT, the gig with Joy Division at Leeds, Diggle's lead vocal on 'Harmony in my Head', the 'Orgasm Addict' picture sleeve, 'Get on Our Own', 'You Say You Don't Love Me', 'Just Lust', 'Running Free'.......

Virtually everything they did was great. They moved me then, and they move me today. And of course they released the single greatest record in the history of rock n' roll - The Spiral Scratch E.P. But then you knew that already, didn't you?

Dr. C, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I think "you'll never be sixteen again" is one of the most potent lines in pop, and I though that when I was sixteen and even before I was that age.

Jonesy and I had the privilege to be present at the Buzzkunst show last year (Devoto and Shelley together again after all these years) which was so good we didn't bother hanging around for Goldfrapp.

I love the Buzzcocks and, although they aren't in the very top rank of my very favourite bands, I still think of them as pretty much the definition of a great pop band.

Tim, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

am i missing something here? the buzzcocks are pretty mediocre, and 'ever falling in love' is one of the most irritating songs ever made.

gareth, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Yes, Gareth. Lots. Lots and Lots.

Dr. C, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Grand. Secret weapon -- John Maher. Trust me.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Wanna re-open the drummer debate, Ned? Actually no need, Maher's the best power-punk-pop drummer of all.

Dr. C, Saturday, 31 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Oh hell yes. The Jaki Liebezeit of the genre, and I mean that with all seriousness.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 March 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
I put this on at my birthday party for a while the other day, and I think I had forgotten just how amazing these guys were. Their highest highs are just untouchable by any other similar-minded band - fascinating, unpredictable melodies that seem like they'll keep going and shifting forever, but somehow managing to be catchy the whole damn time. Are they considered punk or post-punk? Some of their stuff seems to toe the (admittedly nonexistent and blurry) line, and some seems to be pretty clearly either one or the other. (I only own the best-of comp called Operators Manual.)

Clarke B., Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Way the fuck classic (at least going by their '70s stuff -- I haven't bothered listening to their '90s output). Throw in Magazine and you got yourselves The Pinnacle Of Awesome.

Nate Patrin, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

They have about two great moments, but the good news is that my mind keeps changing about what they are.

Kris, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

One of my absolute favourites - who had a better starting run of singles? About eight or nine genuine classics in a row, I think. As it happens, I came across a CD I Don't Mind The Buzzcocks, a compilation at £1.99 yesterday which I couldn't resist even though I had all the great stuff already, and was just playing it (Ever Fallen In Love on as I type).

I saw them four times, I think it was, way back when: the White Riot tour with the Clash, Subway Sect and Slits; another with Penetration; another where I can't remember the support, and when Joy Division supported them - pretty memorable, that.

Martin Skidmore, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

They've been a pretty terrible influence, mind
Weren't the Doughboys fans? And I always though Scratches and Needles by The Nils sounded Buzzcockish.

Mr Noodles, Tuesday, 2 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...
most underrated buzzcocks song:

"love is lies"

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

"There...is...no...love...in...this...world... ANY MORE!!"

Classic.

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Friday, 21 February 2003 02:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

I loved this band until they got back together!

wutchootawkinboutwillis (wutchootawkinboutwillis), Friday, 21 February 2003 05:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

Wanna re-open the drummer debate, Ned? Actually no need, Maher's the best power-punk-pop drummer of all.

Just as long as Clem Burke has equal footing.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Friday, 21 February 2003 07:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Buzzcocks documentary on radio 2. available on Radio On Demand thing for next 5 days or so:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/documentaries/buzzcocks.shtml

(beware: contains Paul Morley)

koogs (koogs), Monday, 9 August 2004 12:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

I hate this band. They sound just like Blink 182 and Simple Plan.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 9 August 2004 12:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

:(((((((((((((((

what Buzzcocks are you listening to?

comme personne (common_person), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

Heh, I *like* early Soup Dragons! "Whole Wide World" is a friggin' great song.

But yeah, Buzzcocks = ultra fucking classic. I just got the reissue of Singles Going Steady with Parts 1,2,3 tacked onto it, yum.

poopy pants, Monday, 9 August 2004 13:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Absolute total, capital "C", Classic

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 August 2004 13:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

So classic it hurts. The Sex Pistols or the Saints may have been better bands (debatable), but within the realm of "punk" music there is no finer LP than Singles Going Steady. Who'd have thought that punk could be informed by pop/psychedelia/Krautrock and thrive? I love how "Orgasm Addict" and a few others throw in the occasional weird 7/8 time signature, just so they can hack through a tangled thicket of syllables and arrive at an unforgettable chorus just that much quicker. "Why Can't I Touch It?" could almost pass for a punk version of "Thank You For Talking To Me Africa". As for being a bad influence, maybe; but they were also a GOOD influence on Husker Du, which is alright by me. And Maher was indeed one hell of a drummer. I have a new favourite every time - last time it was "Boredom", next time "I Don't Mind." (Or make that "I Don't Mi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yind"!)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

I found that BBC2 documentary quite boring and depressing, it might have been because I was tired and it ended with them still being together and had Mark Lamarr being vaguely dismissive towards Howudd.

I can't believe Maher had only been playing drums for a few months when he joined. I was listening to What Do I Get recently to program it into a drum machine and expecting it to be quite easy and simplistic. Damn near made my brain bleed.

Fergal (Ferg), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 00:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

Anyone who says "dud" should be repeatedly punched in the trachea.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 00:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

He has the vote, readers. He is allowed to have children.

Jaz Coleman would have had none of it.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 07:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

poopy - they've just released another singles collection, including stuff after the reunion. stick with your copy of Singles Going Steady tho - have bought that album several times, giving copies away and losing copies, and its *still* perfect.

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

I listened to that Radio 2 documentary. The second half of the story was very depressing, as such histories usually tend to be. I mean I know they've all got to earn a living and reforming the Buzzcocks is probably better than signing on, but all that "a new age was about to start for the band as they found a new rhythm section in long-time fans Tom Cobbles and Norman Spinchter (or whatever they were called)" spin couldn't hide the probability that they really should have chucked it in back in '79. Also typical of Radio 2 that Devoto/A Different Kind Of Tension/Buzzkunst should have got comparatively short shrift, and indeed that Shelley's proto-electronica album from '74 (Sky Saw?) was not mentioned at all. But Morley on the "The" was priceless.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Lipstick. No-one's mentioned it yet so I will. Awesome tune. And a Devoto/Shelley crossbreeding guitar lick for Shot By Both Sides by Magazine later too.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

"(Sky Saw?)"

It was Sky Yen IIRC.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I thought it was. Blue cover. "Sky Saw"'s an Eno song.

The doc also asserted that the reason why "Homosapien" wasn't the massive hit it should have been in '82 was because the BBC sniffed at the line "homo superior in my interior," interpreted it as meaning buggery and thereupon banned it. But IIRC it was pretty well played to death all over the radio at the time. Certainly should have been a hit.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

another vote for Lipstick. i love that song so much...

i spent a weird evening with Diggle and pete shelley's irish nephew, who was now in the band, a few years back. a bunch of us went back to a friend's house after a lift to experience show, taking the band with us (steve and i had photographed/interviewed the band for Careless Talk that afternoon). we went via the marathon bar, a great all-night kebab place in chalk farm that sells beer and spirits after hours, and somehow Diggle and the kid tagged along, though they were drunk, and the kid was mouthy. we got back to the flat, and it was a weird scene. the kid kept saying that the Lift boys were queers, and being pretty nasty. ray, the guy who's house it was, was getting agitated, wanted to clock the guy with a baseball hat. i left about 3am, it was going far beyond weird. then, about 5am, steve confronted the guy, said that all this talk about being queer had got him horny and that he was going to fuck ray then and there, and if the kid didn't want to see it he should leave now. Diggle was nice, but sad and drunk and a bit tragic.

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

Pete Shelley's Irish nephew? They didn't say anything about that in the documentary, just about these two guys who were fans of theirs and knew their back catalogue backwards and ended up as their new rhythm section. I presume Shelley's nephew didn't last long in the band?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

not sure... the way they were talking about it that night he was new to the band - i just assumed the line-up had changed since the reunion...

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

"The doc also asserted that the reason why "Homosapien" wasn't the massive hit it should have been in '82 was because the BBC sniffed at the line "homo superior in my interior," interpreted it as meaning buggery and thereupon banned it. But IIRC it was pretty well played to death all over the radio at the time. Certainly should have been a hit."

"Millions Of People (No-One Like You)" and "Telephone Operator" should have been massive hits too IMHO - and they didn't contain any such questionable lyrics - so did they offer any explanation for that?!?

"Pete Shelley's Irish nephew? They didn't say anything about that in the documentary, just about these two guys who were fans of theirs and knew their back catalogue backwards and ended up as their new rhythm section. I presume Shelley's nephew didn't last long in the band?"

Since reforming with the original line-up, the only bassist they've had is Tony Barber (who also plays for Chelsea) and apart from one tour with Mike Joyce (ex Smiths, of course) I'm pretty sure the only drummer they've had is Phil Barker (who's also one of the Stratford Mercenaries and was previously in a band called Lack Of Knowledge with Tony). Neither of these are related to PS as far as I know, but I do know a guy called Joey who's been their roadie since '77 so I'll try to dig his e-mail address out and ask him!

Fwiw they've actually had the current line up for more than 10 years.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

...wanted to clock the guy with a baseball hat

Easy tiger.

ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

I spotted that new -- and entirely needless -- double singles complilation yesterday. Who do they think is going to buy this (in the wake of all those other comps)? Stick with Singles Going Steady or even Operator's Manual (both readily available sill, I believe).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

Or better still, Product.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

Product may have been the best money I've spent on an overpriced import ever.

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

product is still available for around £10, and well worth it.

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ah yes, Product! Best part of that package was the live Many Parts disc (notably for "Breakdown" and "Time's Up".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

Classic, DUH! i still have a mixtape with bizzcocks on side a and th esmiths side b ;classic teenage hormonage!

kephm, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ah, lovely lovely Product, I could go on.

One of my more bemusing claims to relative small time fame is that I think I wrote most of the Buzzcocks reviews on the AMG.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

"one of"

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

As opposed to "none of"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

So Why Can't I Touch It?

Shiggle, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

'Cos I've nothing left at all.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Or even *hear* them in rip-roaring live form...

Niall, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

All Set has one fantastic track - 'Your Love'. It's worth getting it for that.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 30 March 2006 08:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

> All Set has one fantastic track - 'Your Love'. It's worth getting it for that.

There's 'Totally from the heart' and 'Give it to me' too. The rest of it's a bit shonky, though.

Is 'All set' the only out-of-print Buzzcocks album?

Niall, Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

Probably is the only OOP studio one, yes, although as far as I know 'Tension' still hasn't been released on CD in the UK.

Anyway I picked up the rerelease of TTT (there's lots of copies for £3.95 in SellandBuy in Harrow) and I'm pleased to say that it sounds a lot better than the orig. It's still not a great production - the guitars are a bit diffuse at times and the drums are not well recorded - but it's a lot more listenable than before. I guess we're somewhat spoiled by the classic Rushent productions - urgent and poweful, yet lots of space. I don't know Ralph Ruppert, producer of TTT, anyone know what else he's produced? He's German apparently.


Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 31 March 2006 07:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hey guys don't forget that Shelley's solo albums Homosapien and XL1 are finally released on cd on Monday. I wonder if XL1 will do have the computer graphics that were on the original tape release.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 31 March 2006 10:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

They've been out before though - I've got Homo on the Grapevine label, 16 tracks.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 31 March 2006 10:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

> although as far as I know 'Tension' still hasn't been released on CD in the UK.

Don't ever recall seeing it myself, but Jeff Hall's discography says:

"CD released (UK) as EMI CZ93"

so maybe it was and it's also OOP?

> I wonder if XL1 will do have the computer graphics that were on the original tape release.

Anyone got a working Speccy to play them on? I'll YSI 'em if anyone wants.

Niall, Friday, 31 March 2006 20:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
I'm playing the Times Up thingie now and I want to turn it up much louder than my computer speakers will allow.

Bimble, Sunday, 15 April 2007 21:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Finally, after all these years, got to see the 'cocks last night at Beverley Leisure Centre - an incongruous venue and even more worryingly it was billed as part of the Beverley Folk Festival.

I wasn't expecting much.

Images of Shelley and Diggle morris dancing onto the stage in aran sweaters were exploded

THEY WERE FUCKING AMAZING!!! Wave after wave of the best pop punk songs on the planet.
Steve Diggle particularly was worth the price alone. A fucking nutter,grinning like a loon, pulling all the poses. Shelley just stood there with that cocked head belting out all the hits for the kids (actually old bastards like me withtheir kids).

The two 'new' guys were unnoticeable apart from laying down the impressive rhythm, which is how it should have been.

I was chuffed to bits for Shelley and Diggle. They seemed to be having a wail of a time. Ditto the audience. Saw a lot of old muckers too which made the night even sweeter for me. Nostalgia indeed.

Fer Ark, Saturday, 21 June 2008 15:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Why's no-one talking about the 2CD reissues of the first 3 albums, eh?

Dr.C, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 10:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

I did mention them on some other thread, but yeah.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 11:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and they're doing a "Don't look back" gig, consisting of the first two albums in full.

What's so wrong with "tension" then?

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 11:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and what they should do, is to miss out "I need" and do it after...

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 11:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Tension's always been my favourite.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 11:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

the way that mad mad judy segues into raison d'etre just slays me every time

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 5 November 2008 17:53 (4 years ago) Permalink


I bought this on vinyl 15 years ago,.....this is my favourite Buzzcocks record.

chad, Thursday, 6 November 2008 03:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Me too!

Mark G, Thursday, 6 November 2008 09:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

The 2CD deluxe reissues were finally made available in the U.S. in February, and at the price of a single CD most places! Appropriately, at their Double Door show on Sunday they will be featuring Another Music in A Different Kitchen and Love Bites. Woo hoo!

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 21 May 2010 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

I saw Pete walking south on University Place earlier this week. I said "Pete" and saluted him, and he looked at me sideways (somewhat understandably).

Alex in NYC, Friday, 21 May 2010 20:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

A CLASS(IC) ACT

nakamura, Saturday, 22 May 2010 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Great, but sure went downhill after Devoto left.

louiiiis jjjjagger (S-), Sunday, 23 May 2010 07:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

me roommate really hit it off with Steve Diggle after one of their shows the other week. they've been texting each other since. she's pretty =D about it.

circa1916, Sunday, 23 May 2010 09:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

me? my.

circa1916, Sunday, 23 May 2010 09:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

They played every single song from first two albums in order. I thought I'd take a bar break for "Late For the Train" but even that was much more entertaining live than on record (the drummer had a blast with it). Diggle has aged well (I saw them in 06 but it was my birthday and had too many shots to remember it well) and Shelley looked like Archie Bunker, which made it even more awesome. It was a 110 degree sauna in there, but they were troopers, coming back out to play most of the remaining singles of the era. The set was well over 90 minutes!

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 24 May 2010 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

I want to discuss A Different Kind of Tension. Even the by-numbers stuff is tinged with dread, beside which even "What Do I Get" sounds facile – I'm thinking "You Say You Don't Love Me."

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

cheap shot, but It's hard to evoke dread in a brand new jeep.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ever driven a new jeep?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

with someone I shouldn't have driven a new jeep?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fwiw, an absolute nailed on classic. And if you haven't seen them live- even in their recent incarnation - treat yourself and see the 'cocks

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Saw'em in 2003 and they were more than alright.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 20:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey what would be on you guyses list of songs to include on Singles Going Steady, if you weren't allowed to use any of the songs that are already on it?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

does it have to be a actual single of their's that wasn't on SGS?

If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

re: Different Kind Of Tension

"Hollow Inside" was always one of my fave Buzzcocks songs, even though it is ridiculously simple. It is also tinged with dread as Alfred mentioned above. I love the no-gap transition from the song before, and the way the guitars slam in the chords of the "chorus".

bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Everything's Singles Nowadays
(what with itunes, etc...)

I'd put Breakdown, for one. Is there a shorter version of Hollow Inside?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Saw'em in 2003 and they were more than alright.

Saw 'em in 2003 and they had the worst sound mix I have ever heard at any show.

dyaon't (sic), Thursday, 17 June 2010 06:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Great Buzzcocks tracks that aren't singles but could be: From the Kitchen I'd pick Get on Our Own, FictionRomance. From Love Bites: Nostalgia, Sixteen Again. From Tension: Raison d'etre, I Believe. There's loads of others.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

I only have Singles Going Steady. My favorite song on is Why Can't I Touch It? What else by them sounds like that?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 15 October 2010 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anybody?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 15 October 2010 21:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

i keep thinking homosapien has the same tempo as why can't i touch it, but it's got to be faster. maybe autonomy?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 15 October 2010 21:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

finally got Singles Going Steady.

fuck Mr Snrub's brayings above...this is so goddamn catchy it's ridiculous.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

no idea what the vid is on about, but a clean copy of this song on headphones turned to 11 sounds as good as singles going steady imo. something about whatever pedal that they use there- it's a blast.

fat mantis got sonned by a fred over a strava beef (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Heh, I've been playing the "Product" box set the last few days and reminding myself how freakin' great this band was all the way up to their last 3 singles. Shelly and Diggle were visionary in the way they melded punk energy with pop sensibilities. And in the end I liked Diggle's solo stuff more!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

I hate this band. They sound just like Blink 182 and Simple Plan.

― Mr. Snrub, Monday, August 9, 2004 12:41 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

LOL! I'm such a tool.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 04:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

They just released some re-recordings of old songs and I'm not sure why.. I haven't listened to it but just wondering if it's worth my time.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 07:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

No-one's mentioned this before now? Original line-up with Devoto playing gigs in Manchester and London later this month.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 4 May 2012 05:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's a 'rewindie'!

They are playing the gig starting with the current line-up, then going to the old classic 4-piece w/ Maher and Garvey, then doing the encore w/ Devoto.

oh, it seems Garth is actually still alive, but he's not involved in this.

Mark G, Friday, 4 May 2012 08:10 (1 year ago) Permalink


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