That Motorik Beat

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"Stammtisch" by Barbara Manning, on 1212!

Ernest P. (ernestp), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Caribou - "A Final Warning" and "Bees"

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

supremes 'all i want' - recorded the same year as the first neu! record, you'd swear dinger & rother popped over to help record the first minute or so.

zappi (joni), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

everything from the first couple of cars records
And while we're at it, a lot of stuff from the first Modern Lovers record, including "Old World" if not "Roadrunner" itself.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

all of the new death in vegas album.

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Another from the Velvets (in lieu of submitting an entire live album):
"I Can't Stand It"

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 14 February 2005 04:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Quickspace - "Song for Someone"

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hawkwind- Brainstorm
Can- Mother Sky
Nilsson- Jump Into The Fire

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

As Ned pointed out, the beginning of New Order "Waiting for the Sirens' Call" (the title track) is very motorik/Can.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Drive Somewhere" by The Vulgar Boatmen
Anything off The Good Earth by the Feelies

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 14 February 2005 05:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the fall - creep
much wire

f, Monday, 14 February 2005 05:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

chrisma - gott gott elektron

most of their first two records tend towards neu!/la duesseldorf type beats.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 14 February 2005 08:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

it's been a while since i listened to it, so it might the song wrong, but i think tommy james and the shondells "i think we're alone now" has the motorik beat

Tito JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 14 February 2005 08:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Shoot Speed/Kill Light by Primal Scream, The First Cut by Embrace.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 14 February 2005 09:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The Doors - La Woman
Kraftwerk - Autobahn
Primal Scream - Autobahn 66

M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:13 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Spiders (Kidsmoke)" off the last Wilco album.

Another Velvets one would be "Foggy Notion".

haitch (haitch), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Kasabian - "Reason is Treason"

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

QOTSA - Regular John

DJ Mencap0))), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Universal Panzies - Krautrock Love Song/Hallowedundgallowed

NickB (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So how would people characterise the motorik beat? Is it anything more than just a 4/4 signature - in which case, aren't there millions of songs with it?

Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

All of La Dusseldorf
Most of Michael Rother but especially "Zyklodrom"
Parts of Harmonia but especially "Monza"

Lots of Glitter Band/ Gary Glitter
Lots of Stooges
Lots of Velvets

Bowie - Red Sails (et al, ad infinitum etc)
Iggy - Funtime
Cabaret Voltaire - Nag Nag Nag (et al)

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Palomino - John Sims
Theme from Ming Mang Mong - Ming Mang Mong

Hungry Horace, Monday, 14 February 2005 11:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The Delgados - Girls Of Valour
Gay Dad - Dimstar/Joy!/Black Ghost/To Earth With Love
most of the new Fischerspooner (hurrah!)
Orbital - Spare Parts Express (maybe)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

'live wire' - ac/dc

cb, Monday, 14 February 2005 11:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It seems we all have slightly different ideas of what that motorik beat is.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 12:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Someone will say Bjork in a minute...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 13:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the human beinz - "nobody but me"

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

lilys - zero population growth ep
levitation - against nature

mzui (mzui), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

That motorik beat is always accompanied by a spectral gauzey fade-in. YES.

(my examples do not all bear this out)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Full Moon in My Pocket" - Swell Maps (and probably other of their songs, too)

Also several Unrest songs, like the Hyrdofoil/Hydroplane ones.

arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Boredoms - 7 (Boriginal)

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

David Bowie - Station To Station

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Iggy Pop - Sister Midnight

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Donna Summer - I Feel Love

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anything by Thomas Koner
Similarly anything by Lull
Brian Eno's On Land

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

???

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

my rough guide

willem (willem), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Secret Machines--"Nowhere Again" and "Now Here Is Nowhere." Live though they don't do it--Bonham circa Zep IV song one through the encore.

kaiser motorik, Monday, 14 February 2005 15:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Tortoise - Djed (Don't know why that one didn't occur to me sooner!)

M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

That motorik beat is always accompanied by a spectral gauzey fade-in. YES.
(my examples do not all bear this out)

-- Alex in Doncaster (alex_fac...) (webmail), February 14th, 2005 2:21 PM. (link)


Like, for instance, "Silver Machine" Hawkwind?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

most things Hamish Kilgour drums on. The Clean's 'Vehicle' is the same beat at varying speeds for the whole record. pretty much, anyway.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Jagz Kooner productions and remixes.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

mark otm about hawkwind - their studio stuff esp has some crisp clean motorik, while the space ritual stuff is some hairier/messier kraut-esque drumming. god i fucking love hawkwind.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

There's a track near the end of Dusk at Cubist Castle (I think it's the title track) that fits the bill.

sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 20:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

hawkwind - opa loka. the most motorik non kraut record ever.

whitey - two face.


spencer otm about jagz kooner.

stirmonster, Monday, 14 February 2005 20:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Wait! This is getting too scattered! Related but scattered! Definition time!

don, Monday, 14 February 2005 21:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I have a pretty rigid idea of motorik, so here goes:

4/4 time, basic rock bet, with snare on 2 & 4, HOWEVER, bass drum is playing exactly what the hi-hat does (ie, on each eighth note), except on the beats where the snare hits. It looks like this

1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
h h h h h h h h
. . s . . . s .
b b . b b b . b

This is the beat of many Neu songs, including "Hallogallo". I think the bass drum playing on all those eigth notes is what separates motorik from a lot of other regular old 4/4 rock beats (fast, driving or otherwise).

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

whoa, that looked a lot better pre-post.

basically, the b's are supposed to line up w/the h's, and the s's are on 2 and 4. I hate the internet!

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Pumpkins "1979" does not fit, right?

Aaron A., Monday, 14 February 2005 21:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

not according to the definition I'm using above. It almost does, but in the drum figure of "1979", there's a syncopation pattern that de-motorikizes it (and also makes two bars have to pass before completing the figure). One of the things about motorik that makes it "motorik" (or robotic) is that each measure is identical, it doesn't take more than one measure to complete the whole pattern.

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anyone mention Quick Canal by Atlas Sound?

Love this track. I also find it touching that Cox was able to persuade one of his idols (Laetitia Sadier) to sing on it.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:23 (four years ago) Permalink

Blue line Swinger is not motorik, at least until like minute 5.

The Fall's 'Before the Moon Falls' is p motorik: would 'Reformation' count too?

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:26 (four years ago) Permalink

The loud version of Big Day Coming by YLT might qualify, can't think what else off the top of my head.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:29 (four years ago) Permalink

I think the "motorik beat" is a red herring. A motorik feeling is just as much about what the bass is doing, the actual sound of the drums (dry and tight), limited harmonic movement, and how the guitar, synths, or vocals are floating on top, as it is about the basic drum pattern. You can play that same drum pattern in a way that doesn't sound motorik at all, or you could make a song with a different drum beat that still sounds very motorik.

+1

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:34 (four years ago) Permalink

i've always thought about it in terms of dancing and being able to play off of different instruments instead of being dependent on a changing beat or vocal changes for changing movements
not that it matters, but there you go

game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:43 (four years ago) Permalink

Jumpin jack Flash & Street Fighting Man are kind of motorik. I read a Fall review in the Wire that said the Johnny Burnette Trio's version of "Train kept a Rollin" was motorik too, but I couldn't confirm that.

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:50 (four years ago) Permalink

No, that song is locomotorik

Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:04 (four years ago) Permalink

I see that Death in Vegas are already represented but for my money 'Hands Around Your Throat' is more representative of the motorik beat than that track that namechecks Rother.

Also, I think there's a place for Radiohead here; in particular Amnesiac b-side 'Cuttooth'.

AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:07 (four years ago) Permalink

A few people have mentioned the Gary Glitter beat, but that's a shuffle. Unless there was an actual motorik Gary Glitter song I don't know about, but I'm assuming people mean the R&Rpt2 beat.

wk, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:30 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, too much stomping in that one.

Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:32 (four years ago) Permalink

locomotorik

irl lol.

Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:37 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah that shd be excelisor'd (by someone other than me)

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:42 (four years ago) Permalink

I guess I don't understand people's obsession with this term. It's a nice way to describe a few Krautrock bands and bands who were influenced by them, but I don't see why it has to be applied to any song with a driving beat. And I really don't get the connection to songs that predate krautrock like Heroes and Villains.

wk, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:43 (four years ago) Permalink

One of the tracks on Yoko Ono & The Plastic Ono Band has Ringo laying down a pretty motorik groove. I don't have the record to hand. Rhythm section on that album amazing across the board.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:27 (four years ago) Permalink

The last 45 seconds or so of Turtle Turtle Up by Four Tet.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:46 (four years ago) Permalink

It's kind of mental, you've got all these jazzy, glitchy drum rolls for about 90 seconds, and then it just falls into motorik loveliness.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:47 (four years ago) Permalink

Orchestral Manoeuvers in the dark - Electricity

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:37 (four years ago) Permalink

was listening to B-52's "Aint it a Shame" and that almost makes the cut, surprisingly...

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:02 (four years ago) Permalink

2. [04:37] Velvet Underground - I’m waiting for the man (1967)

Totally disagree with this one. It doesn't have a backbeat at all, just a steady, even pulse on every beat.

click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:15 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah it's not Motorik, but I can see a case for it being proto-Motorik. The insistent evenness I think is the key.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:38 (four years ago) Permalink

^yeah I agree with this post. "Waiting for the Man" is too much of an important first step, even though it probably predicts "It's a Rainy Day, Sunshine Girl" more than anything Neu! did

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:41 (four years ago) Permalink

contemporary motorik beat: beak, the band of portishead's geoff barrow (btw they have a new album out). somehow i have the impression they bring something new to the table. they are obviously heavily influenced by neu etc, but they have their sound and lots of interesting ideas. the motorik beat is also played by the bass here.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:53 (four years ago) Permalink

am0n, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:03 (four years ago) Permalink

Can I nominate this as the post-speeding-down-the-autobahn version of the motorik, very definitely in an unexpected place (the very underrated Francisco's 'Cosmic Beam Experience')?

Soundslike, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:29 (four years ago) Permalink

dsb, Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:45 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Beak! Bought >> and it is pretty awesome. It is just krauty grooves for the sake of it, seemingly, but oh wow.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 6 September 2012 16:52 (four years ago) Permalink

^^ it is awesome

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:22 (four years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Kraftwerk, "Ohm Sweet Ohm"

... could this be deliberate on their part?

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:58 (three years ago) Permalink

!

willem, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:37 (three years ago) Permalink

Portishead - Chase the Tear

anonanon, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:10 (three years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 1 July 2013 10:08 (three years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Röyskopp, Alpha Male

(close enough)

ledge, Friday, 19 July 2013 13:57 (three years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Espanto - Rock'n Roll

"I Feel Love" with a motorik beat + fuzz guitars? this is glorious

when skrillex just stood there (unregistered), Thursday, 9 January 2014 04:44 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

andrew m., Monday, 27 January 2014 17:42 (two years ago) Permalink

yessss

charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Monday, 27 January 2014 17:43 (two years ago) Permalink

The vid's rip doesn't really do it justice. On my copy the drums are so big. Caveman style.

andrew m., Monday, 27 January 2014 17:47 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

more more more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 15 April 2016 01:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

15-60-75 - Animal Speaks (????? might only be motorik in my memory)

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 15 April 2016 02:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

stirmonster, Friday, 15 April 2016 10:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 April 2016 14:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

thank you for posting that! it led me to read this, and the special note to drummer is so awesome, esp "anyway, you get the idea, you'll do great"
http://www.rhyschatham.net/g3english/GuitarTrioScore.pdf

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 15 April 2016 15:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

andrew m., Thursday, 18 August 2016 15:02 (three months ago) Permalink

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andrew m., Thursday, 18 August 2016 15:55 (three months ago) Permalink

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